Posted on 10/29/2011 5:40:16 PM PDT by Fred
HumanEvents Human Events The Des Moines Register Iowa Poll unveiled: Herman Cain 23; Romney 22; Paul 12; Bachmann 8; Gingrich 7; Perry 7; Santorum 5; Huntsman 1.
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I thoroughly agree.
It seems as though they’re putting pride before principal.
Santorum would probably rather endorse Specter again than endorse Herman Cain. I wish I didn’t think Santorum was a weasel for that and also attacking Mr. Cain over abortion. I’d really like to at least LIKE Rick.
Uh-oh.....Perry’s gainin’ on ‘em! Don’t look now - here comes big Tex!
OMG! Wonder who's going to pick up his dozens of supporters?
It’s not that Rick is a bad campaigner or even a bad person. He’s just made some big mistakes in the past that make voters think twice.
Yes, let the RINOs support a CONSERVATIVE candidate for once. Let them hold THEIR noses. I bet they wont, though.
Why should they? They’ll have Obama to vote for. He’s what they really want anyhow.
Although certainly encouraging, I don’t think a tie can legitimately be called a “blockbuster.”
The point spread is not the point, according to the likes of Rove LSM and the Iowa GOP party establishment Cain should be single digits for not campaigning in Iowa as did Santorum who visited 99 counties. So Cain’s tie for first is a blockbuster. Stupid Romney has been campaigning in Iowa going on 5 years now and his numbers stink.
Romney will never secure the base if he is the nominie. He could dig up Reagan for his running mate and most of us common sense true conservatives will not go for it. We will no longer play second fiddle to their destructive politics.
GOP...hear us conservatives loud and clear...if you nominate another rino we will tear your party apart at the seams. We will run a third party candidate and it will be the beginning of the end of the republican party.
It’s good that Cain’s still leading, but this poll still troubles me. Looks like there is still 15% undecided in this most recent poll.
The problem I see is that the conservatives are splitting the vote. Even if it’s just single digits, it still counts.
Santorum getting 5%? He’ll still around if that’s true because he can say he “quintupled” his support.
Perry is not going to drop out because he has the money to go to at least FL.
Bachmann won’t drop out until after the IA contest, because she’s going to hold out hope that conservatives come back to her.
I don’t see Newt dropping out anytime before IA either.
I could care less about the Paulbots and Huntsman.
The problem is we already know what the media spin is going to be. If Romney finishes a “strong” 2nd, it will be hyped up to be as good as a win leading on to the NH primary where he has a kind of home-field advantage, then play that to the NV caucuses.
The conservative candidate needs to win the IA caucuses by at least 10%, and if possible, needs to get 40% or more of the vote.
If we get something like: Cain 31%, Romney 26%, Paul 11%, Gingrich 10%, Perry 10%, Bachmann 6%, Santorum 4%, Huntsman 2%, the MSM is going to spin it as a strong win for Romney and a slight advantage to Cain given the strong number of conservatives in IA and that NH and NV will set Romney up as his *rightful* place as the frontrunner.
We need something like the following:
Cain: 41%, Romney 26%, Paul 11%, Gingrich 7%, Perry 7%, Bachmann 4%, Santorum 2%, Huntsman 2%.
I'm done with all those politicians, which means I'm done with most. It's pathetic that tough talk on illegal immigration from Herman Cain is the most serious thing said by any front runner for the Presidency when talking about the issue in my lifetime. He actually seems like the average American citizen who's against this nation killer.
Illegal immigration is an ignored issue that no President in my lifetime has actually tried stopping despite public opinion. There is no issue facing this nation that's anymore important than this one. It's one of the top issues we face that's destroying the country, making it an issue you have to be on the right side of, because if you're not it makes your opinion on the other nation killing issues irrelevant.
You have to be serious about taking the dramatic actions that must be taken to save the country on all those issues, or it's pointless and we will inevitably be destroyed. The problems we have on many issues are so serious, and out of control, it will be hard to stop this country from weakening and falling even with a President who fights as hard as possible for the actions needed.
After all we elected a President in Obama who obviously welcomes the weakening and dying of our nation. It wasn't hard to see that when he was a candidate. He didn't surprise us with his actions, but there were still enough in the nation to elect him. It doesn't look good regardless of if those voters supported his radical positions, or were just ignorant, because we can't educate the ignorant who have no interest in being educated on politics. It's hard to be positive and see the Union staying together with a federal government that's even close to what it was meant to be by our founding fathers.
We aren't going to fall from an outside enemy in a conventional attack, or any terrorist attack, we will fall from within. I don't even like hearing about all these other threats that are nothing compared to the Mexican invasion that's been in progress for decades, and is reaching a dangerous point, yet is barely spoken of, and never in a serious manner by those with the power to stop it.
Cain has talked tough on the issue, and while that's not the same as action it's still the best I've heard from a front runner. That's sad considering just how damaging illegal immigration has been to our nation. Not to mention the majority of American citizens have shown to be against it for years in total contrast to our government.
I hope and expect that if Romney continues to draw no more than 25-30% and Cain is at about that then the supporters of Santorum and Bachmann will start to climb aboard the Cain Train and push him ahead.
That's not what the TEA party is about, and if they do that crap and are still associated and supported by the TEA party I will not have anything to do with that part of the so-called Conservative movement.
We need to start putting pressure on these people now, and let them know how we feel. That goes for people like Sarah Palin as well, considering we all know she will be active in the election, there is no excuse for her not to start by by supporting a Conservative primary candidate, and Cain's the only one left with a chance.
I think most will listen if enough of us let them know how we feel. They won't be getting the same warm receptions at many TEA party events like they have in the past if they hurt the Conservative movement this election, and their campaigns for any other government office will lose support and money. We just need to make sure they know this.
I like Conservatives like Palin and Bachmann a lot, and they have helped the Conservative movement tremendously, but they still can't be excused if they end up hurting the movement they helped start. If that does happen it could be an end to the rise of the movement, so I hope to GOD they do the right thing with the opportunity we have this election.
Bachman also called 999 a VAT tax when clearly she knows its not.
There’s some good signs there and I hope you’re right.
Yeah, I don’t buy the high Romney numbers either. I think that’s the media puffing him up because they (and the DemonRats) want him in. Just like McCain, they want a mooshy-middle progressive. They can crack him for being a conservative (which he really isn’t) AND they can crack him for not being true to his conservative principles (in other words, hit him on being the flip-flopper that he IS). They’ve already got the plan in place to defeat him, now it’s time to go gangbusters and get him nominated. Hey, it worked with McLame.
It’s pathetic that tough talk on illegal immigration from Herman Cain is the most serious thing said by any front runner for the Presidency when talking about the issue in my lifetime.
I agree. The establishment had it’s chance and they used it to show whose side they are on. The GOP elites are the greatest human danger this country faces.
yes. We need to UNITE for Conservatism. ESPECIALLY those who have been providing inspiration all along the way.
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