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Another drug shortage?? (VANITY)
10/10/2011 | Me

Posted on 10/10/2011 5:27:57 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue

So I get to work this morning only to find there is a "national shortage" of fentanyl. Am I suppposed to offer my patients a bullet to bite on??

I asked the operating room pharmacist why, after 14 years of nursing, I am seeing a new drug shortage every few weeks over the last 2 or 3 years. Her answer is that there are more "inspectors" now in the pharm industry who are picky about safety so they have been shutting down pharmaceutical manufacturing facilities.

Has anyone else heard such a thing? Seems a little stinky to me


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1 posted on 10/10/2011 5:27:59 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue
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To: surroundedbyblue
Heard Chuck the Schmuck on the news this morning ranting about profiteers buy up drugs to resell at 400% markup.

ML/NJ

2 posted on 10/10/2011 5:32:43 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: surroundedbyblue
This FDA site provides additional information: Current Drug Shortages
3 posted on 10/10/2011 5:37:07 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: surroundedbyblue
Pain is good for seniors. Makes them more receptive to suggestions from 0bama Death Panels.
4 posted on 10/10/2011 5:37:56 AM PDT by TYVets (Pure-Gas.org ..... ethanol free gasoline by state and city)
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To: Rockingham

Thanks for the link.

Still very vague & shady. “increased demand” or “manufacturing issues” is pretty non-descript.

Interesting, Isoniazid was listed as being short due to increased demand. That’s the drug used to treat TB.


5 posted on 10/10/2011 5:41:19 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: TYVets

LOL!

My patient is a 12 month old who just had a heart transplant in September. The Obama DeathBots will get him, too someday.


6 posted on 10/10/2011 5:44:59 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Your operating room pharmacist is correct. I know, I’m married to one.

She comes home everyday with her ears bleeding over drug shortages.

She tries to get ahead of the curve with substitutions but it doesn’t always work.


7 posted on 10/10/2011 5:46:31 AM PDT by TSgt (When in the Course of human events...)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Hegelian Marxist dialectic operating here, I think.

Government comes into an area and gradually fouls it all up until it’s so fouled up, Government declares a Crisis and takes bold, appropriate steps to take over that area, expanding just a little more. We forget or don’t notice that it was Government meddling that led to the crisis.

Like when Government cut back on Medicare and Medicaid reimbursement, so health care orgs increased costs for everything else to keep the lights on. Then Government said, look how much costs have increased! We must have RomneyCare on a national basis to fix this crisis!

Now it’s pharmaceuticals. Shortages caused by government regulations! We are heading toward a Crisis if Government does not take over production!


8 posted on 10/10/2011 5:56:26 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: DBrow

Yep also known as Cloward-Piven.

A manufactured crisis


9 posted on 10/10/2011 5:57:36 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: surroundedbyblue

No it does not make sense. We offshore the manufacture of meds. It is a liability business. Our governement keeps our meds in the hands of others to manufacture. More government control.

The New antipychotics were released and all of a sudden liquid Thorazine and liquid ativan disappeared. Cheap effective and reliable and good for people who couldnt think straigt enough to wrap themselves around taking a pill. They accepted the liquid.

Instead of cents per dose, we intitally paid 50 to 100 dollars a dose for the melt in your mouth kinds.

There are over 130 drugs no long available or in short supply.

The EPA and the drug companies were complicit in taking plain old albuterol ihaler off the market. Now there is a new propellent and it is only available as a brand name at ten times the cost.

The government is not your friend, neither are the drug companies.


10 posted on 10/10/2011 6:07:11 AM PDT by Chickensoup (In the 20th century 200 million people were killed by their own governments.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Due to the recession, businesses are cutting marginal, low profit products. In addition, drug companies do not want to be mandated to continue to produce low margin drugs when Obamacare fully kicks in.


11 posted on 10/10/2011 6:10:35 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: surroundedbyblue

I heard the same thing in my pharmacy school classes - not just scuttlebutt, as part of the curriculum.


12 posted on 10/10/2011 7:17:31 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: surroundedbyblue

One guess would be that large quantities of fentanyl are being diverted to the illegal drug market. Fentanyl is very popular among addicts and I’ve been told that it’s not hard to obtain on the streets.


13 posted on 10/10/2011 7:21:43 AM PDT by Larry381 (If in doubt, shoot it in the head and drop it in the ocean!)
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To: surroundedbyblue

My take is that most of the pharmaceutical manufacturers are anticipating ObamaCare and are selling off product lines that are not highly profitable. The firms that buy the product lines are having a difficult time getting the product back on the market due to regulatory pressures from government agencies.

If these old products go overseas, now there is an import/export issue at play here as well. The FDA is a cumbersome beast thet really enjoys paperwork.


14 posted on 10/10/2011 7:46:13 AM PDT by Artie
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To: surroundedbyblue

We heard the rumor about fentanyl shortage probably six or more months ago. Based on previous rumors (usually correct) we stocked up in advance. I was beginning to think I was mislead until now. Odd that the shortage was announced so far in advance, kind of like someone knew a new manipulation was being planned. I agree with these shortage problems becoming more frequent. It was propfol not long ago. Brevital before that. If versed is next don’t think I can go back to valium days, nasty stuff.


15 posted on 10/10/2011 8:39:58 AM PDT by strongbow
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Don’t forget thiopental. We were short on that for what seemed like forever. And decadron. It was supposedly contaminated with particulate matter so we didn’t have it for at least 6 months. Not vey helpful for airway cases & neuro....

I agree with you. Very bizarre that a shortage was announced. Kinda like someone is wagging the dog.


16 posted on 10/10/2011 8:45:33 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: TYVets

Gotta exert a little population control from time to time. Wait til they pass that supplement law and all the vitamins etc disappear from the shelves.


17 posted on 10/10/2011 9:34:22 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: DBrow

Just wait until our government finishes mucking up agriculture. Haven’t you heard? Bad weather seems to afflict socialist countries. The more hardline they are, the worse the weather is. Strange to say, but weather patterns and starvation seem to follow national borders. I’m sure that is merely coincidence.


18 posted on 10/10/2011 1:29:02 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Rockingham

Lotta chemo drugs on that list.


19 posted on 10/11/2011 7:03:10 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (We kneel to no prince but the Prince of Peace)
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To: surroundedbyblue

Forgot about the Dex shortage. I keep a huge supply now of all the agents that I depend on. Never use thiopental, hadn’t heard about that shortage. I thought propofol pretty much replace that it.


20 posted on 10/11/2011 8:59:34 PM PDT by strongbow
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