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Dwarf galaxies suggest dark matter theory may be wrong
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| September 16, 2011
| Leila Battison
Posted on 09/16/2011 3:33:06 PM PDT by decimon
Scientists' predictions about the mysterious dark matter purported to make up most of the mass of the Universe may have to be revised.
Research on dwarf galaxies suggests they cannot form in the way they do if dark matter exists in the form that the most common model requires it to.
That may mean that the Large Hadron Collider will not be able to spot it.
Leading cosmologist Carlos Frenk spoke of the "disturbing" developments at the British Science Festival in Bradford.
The current theory holds that around 4% of the Universe is made up of normal matter - the stuff of stars, planets and people - and around 21% of it is dark matter.
The remainder is made up of what is known as dark energy, an even less understood hypothetical component of the Universe that would explain its ever-increasing expansion.
(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...
TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: darkenergy; darkforce; darkmatter; stringtheory
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To: Boogieman
The problem is they rely on computer models and instead of believing their computer models could be wrong they invent things like dark matter and dark energy to make their models work.
In real science you gather data and then from that data that’s where you develop a hypothesis.
They are not doing that, instead they are starting with a hypothesis and then they are trying to make the observations fit. That is not science, the Global warming fraudsters and the Dinos were killed by an asteroid people do they same thing.
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posted on
09/16/2011 3:56:05 PM PDT
by
qam1
(There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
To: Johnny B.
I have the feeling that in 50-100 years, cosmologists will laugh at just how wrong they were.
True enough. It wasn't until the 1930s that we realized that the universe consisted of more than our own galaxy.
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posted on
09/16/2011 3:56:35 PM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
To: decimon
Scientists are starting to remind me of Ancient Astronaut theorists... just wild speculations such as “perhaps” maybe” it could be”. Scientists, we pay them to make the mistakes we don’t want to make.
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posted on
09/16/2011 4:00:31 PM PDT
by
Ancient Drive
(DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
To: Ancient Drive
In this case they’re scientists talking about theoretical sciences. Basically doing what theoretical scientists have done for thousands of years. Sometimes they’re right and sometimes they’re wrong.
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posted on
09/16/2011 4:04:23 PM PDT
by
cripplecreek
(A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
To: VeniVidiVici
Remember that before Edwin Hubble and not that many years ago, the ‘entire’ universe was believed to be the Milky Way Galaxy.
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posted on
09/16/2011 4:10:53 PM PDT
by
JPG
(Palin '12)
To: Johnny B.
My question is: Do they know how much matter has been swallowed up by all the black holes?
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posted on
09/16/2011 4:11:13 PM PDT
by
aimhigh
To: decimon
Dwarf galaxies suggest dark matter theory may be wrongDon't they mean "Little Person Galaxies?"
To: decimon
I would not be surprised within 15 years some physicist revives the supposedly discarded theory of aether and comes up with a totally new theory of physics that overthrows everything we've known since the 1600's.
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posted on
09/16/2011 4:43:27 PM PDT
by
RayChuang88
(FairTax: America's economic cure)
To: Sacajaweau
When will man admit his proper place in the universe instead of trying to defend his superiority over God by simple denial.That you imagine this to be so does not make it so.
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posted on
09/16/2011 4:55:16 PM PDT
by
decimon
To: GreenHornet
Dwarf stars and dark matter are not mutually exclusive constructs....
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posted on
09/16/2011 4:55:16 PM PDT
by
mikrofon
(Watchu talkin' about, physics?)
To: FlingWingFlyer
Someone shut the deniers up. We all know it must be dark matter. Why can’t these agitators just go away and leave science alone. Oh they agony of it all.
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posted on
09/16/2011 4:57:29 PM PDT
by
taterjay
To: decimon; Sacajaweau
"That you imagine this to be so does not make it so." That you imagine this not to be so does not make it not so.
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posted on
09/16/2011 5:01:16 PM PDT
by
GourmetDan
(Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
To: decimon
"The current theory holds that around 4% of the Universe is made up of normal matter..." IOW, 96% of what is supposed to exist according to these models is invisible by definition.
How very 'scientific'...
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posted on
09/16/2011 5:09:00 PM PDT
by
GourmetDan
(Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
To: brivette
It does not. Bullshit for the masses.
To: Paradox
"The Universe is made up of two things. Matter, and Doesnt Matter. Matter comprises about .000000000000000000001% of the Universe. The rest is Doesnt Matter."I was just going to suggest that "dark matter" and "dark energy" are scientists' way of not saying "God created..."
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posted on
09/16/2011 5:34:03 PM PDT
by
redhead
(Never Forget. Never Forget. NEVER FORGET!)
To: Boogieman
In my opinion, Physics is stuck in a rut until the next megagenius shows up to discover some simple and elegant truth that the rest of them have missed.I agree. I'm appreciative of my EE Advanced Physic professor (from decades ago) who taught us to derive Special Relativity from scratch, the way Einstein did it. That is what it will take to get rid of these fudge factors and hippie theories (strings).
Like Einstein, it will take someone with the intellect and the personal time to pursue their own ideas unhindered by the current "cool" ideas. Einstein couldn't get a job teaching physics, so that freed him to pursue his own work. He mentioned later on that had he gotten the job he wanted, he would have ended up doing research based on the same wrong-headed ideas as everyone else at the time.
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posted on
09/16/2011 5:36:06 PM PDT
by
Clock King
(Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
To: humblegunner
WHY have they never told us? /s
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posted on
09/16/2011 5:44:36 PM PDT
by
WePledge
(Ich werde fur immer ein Hollenhund werden. Semper Fidelis)
To: GourmetDan
That you imagine this not to be so does not make it not so.I've not said what you imagine.
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posted on
09/16/2011 5:49:28 PM PDT
by
decimon
To: PoloSec
Science falsely so calledWhat here is falsely called science?
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posted on
09/16/2011 5:50:58 PM PDT
by
decimon
To: decimon
"I've not said what you imagine." Neither did I...
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posted on
09/16/2011 5:54:55 PM PDT
by
GourmetDan
(Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
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