Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Dwarf galaxies suggest dark matter theory may be wrong
BBC ^ | September 16, 2011 | Leila Battison

Posted on 09/16/2011 3:33:06 PM PDT by decimon

Scientists' predictions about the mysterious dark matter purported to make up most of the mass of the Universe may have to be revised.

Research on dwarf galaxies suggests they cannot form in the way they do if dark matter exists in the form that the most common model requires it to.

That may mean that the Large Hadron Collider will not be able to spot it.

Leading cosmologist Carlos Frenk spoke of the "disturbing" developments at the British Science Festival in Bradford.

The current theory holds that around 4% of the Universe is made up of normal matter - the stuff of stars, planets and people - and around 21% of it is dark matter.

The remainder is made up of what is known as dark energy, an even less understood hypothetical component of the Universe that would explain its ever-increasing expansion.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: darkenergy; darkforce; darkmatter; stringtheory
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-57 next last
To: Boogieman

The problem is they rely on computer models and instead of believing their computer models could be wrong they invent things like dark matter and dark energy to make their models work.

In real science you gather data and then from that data that’s where you develop a hypothesis.

They are not doing that, instead they are starting with a hypothesis and then they are trying to make the observations fit. That is not science, the Global warming fraudsters and the Dinos were killed by an asteroid people do they same thing.


21 posted on 09/16/2011 3:56:05 PM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Johnny B.
I have the feeling that in 50-100 years, cosmologists will laugh at just how wrong they were.

True enough. It wasn't until the 1930s that we realized that the universe consisted of more than our own galaxy.
22 posted on 09/16/2011 3:56:35 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: decimon

Scientists are starting to remind me of Ancient Astronaut theorists... just wild speculations such as “perhaps” maybe” it could be”. Scientists, we pay them to make the mistakes we don’t want to make.


23 posted on 09/16/2011 4:00:31 PM PDT by Ancient Drive (DRINK COFFEE! - Do Stupid Things Faster with More Energy!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ancient Drive

In this case they’re scientists talking about theoretical sciences. Basically doing what theoretical scientists have done for thousands of years. Sometimes they’re right and sometimes they’re wrong.


24 posted on 09/16/2011 4:04:23 PM PDT by cripplecreek (A vote for Amnesty is a vote for a Permenant Democrat majority. ..Choose well.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 23 | View Replies]

To: VeniVidiVici
Remember that before Edwin Hubble and not that many years ago, the ‘entire’ universe was believed to be the Milky Way Galaxy.
25 posted on 09/16/2011 4:10:53 PM PDT by JPG (Palin '12)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Johnny B.

My question is: Do they know how much matter has been swallowed up by all the black holes?


26 posted on 09/16/2011 4:11:13 PM PDT by aimhigh
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: decimon
Dwarf galaxies suggest dark matter theory may be wrong

Don't they mean "Little Person Galaxies?"

27 posted on 09/16/2011 4:19:54 PM PDT by GreenHornet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: decimon
I would not be surprised within 15 years some physicist revives the supposedly discarded theory of aether and comes up with a totally new theory of physics that overthrows everything we've known since the 1600's.
28 posted on 09/16/2011 4:43:27 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Sacajaweau
When will man admit his proper place in the universe instead of trying to defend his superiority over God by simple denial.

That you imagine this to be so does not make it so.

29 posted on 09/16/2011 4:55:16 PM PDT by decimon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: GreenHornet
Dwarf stars and dark matter are not mutually exclusive constructs....
30 posted on 09/16/2011 4:55:16 PM PDT by mikrofon (Watchu talkin' about, physics?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: FlingWingFlyer

Someone shut the deniers up. We all know it must be dark matter. Why can’t these agitators just go away and leave science alone. Oh they agony of it all.


31 posted on 09/16/2011 4:57:29 PM PDT by taterjay
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: decimon; Sacajaweau
"That you imagine this to be so does not make it so."

That you imagine this not to be so does not make it not so.

32 posted on 09/16/2011 5:01:16 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: decimon
"The current theory holds that around 4% of the Universe is made up of normal matter..."

IOW, 96% of what is supposed to exist according to these models is invisible by definition.

How very 'scientific'...

33 posted on 09/16/2011 5:09:00 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: brivette

It does not. Bullshit for the masses.


34 posted on 09/16/2011 5:11:07 PM PDT by YankeeDoodleRebel
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Paradox
"The Universe is made up of two things. Matter, and Doesn’t Matter. Matter comprises about .000000000000000000001% of the Universe. The rest is “Doesn’t Matter”."

I was just going to suggest that "dark matter" and "dark energy" are scientists' way of not saying "God created..."

35 posted on 09/16/2011 5:34:03 PM PDT by redhead (Never Forget. Never Forget. NEVER FORGET!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Boogieman
In my opinion, Physics is stuck in a rut until the next megagenius shows up to discover some simple and elegant truth that the rest of them have missed.

I agree. I'm appreciative of my EE Advanced Physic professor (from decades ago) who taught us to derive Special Relativity from scratch, the way Einstein did it. That is what it will take to get rid of these fudge factors and hippie theories (strings).

Like Einstein, it will take someone with the intellect and the personal time to pursue their own ideas unhindered by the current "cool" ideas. Einstein couldn't get a job teaching physics, so that freed him to pursue his own work. He mentioned later on that had he gotten the job he wanted, he would have ended up doing research based on the same wrong-headed ideas as everyone else at the time.

36 posted on 09/16/2011 5:36:06 PM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: humblegunner

WHY have they never told us? /s


37 posted on 09/16/2011 5:44:36 PM PDT by WePledge (Ich werde fur immer ein Hollenhund werden. Semper Fidelis)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: GourmetDan
That you imagine this not to be so does not make it not so.

I've not said what you imagine.

38 posted on 09/16/2011 5:49:28 PM PDT by decimon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: PoloSec
Science falsely so called

What here is falsely called science?

39 posted on 09/16/2011 5:50:58 PM PDT by decimon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: decimon
"I've not said what you imagine."

Neither did I...

40 posted on 09/16/2011 5:54:55 PM PDT by GourmetDan (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-4041-57 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson