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Michigan Copper in the Mediterranean
Grahamhancock.com ^ | 8-2011 | Jay Stuart Wakefield

Posted on 08/06/2011 4:11:06 PM PDT by Renfield

The Shipping of Michigan Copper across the Atlantic in the Bronze Age (Isle Royale and Keweenaw Peninsula, c. 2400BC-1200 BC)

Summary

Recent scientific literature has come to the conclusion that the major source of the copper that swept through the European Bronze Age after 2500 BC is unknown. However, these studies claim that the 10 tons of copper oxhide ingots recovered from the late Bronze Age (1300 BC) Uluburun shipwreck off the coast of Turkey was “extraordinarily pure” (more than 99.5% pure), and that it was not the product of smelting from ore. The oxhides are all brittle “blister copper”, with voids, slag bits, and oxides, created when the oxhides were made in multiple pourings outdoors over wood fires. Only Michigan Copper is of this purity, and it is known to have been mined in enormous quantities during the Bronze Age....

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TOPICS: History; Science
KEYWORDS: ancientnavigation; archaeology; barrycunliffe; bronzeage; copper; cyprus; finns; gavinmenzies; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; grahamhancock; isleroyale; jaystuartwakefield; keweenawpeninsula; michigan; midnightsun; navigation; ontonagonboulder; oxhideingots; pytheas; uluburun
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To: cripplecreek

Do they have illegals up that far north?


21 posted on 08/06/2011 5:35:54 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statemnt of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: BenLurkin

I don’t think there are a lot of illegals up there running loose but there are a few prisons that probably have a fair number.


22 posted on 08/06/2011 5:38:05 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: crz

“In the Caledonia mine, they dug out a mass that weighed in at about 27 tons.’

Hi, crz.

The estimated weight was 760 tons, and it took the miners a year to cut it up, lift it to the surface and ship it out.

It’s believed that the copper mass discovered at the Central mine in the Keweenaw Peninsula in 1854 weighed more than 1,000 tons.

Who knows?

I have pictures of pure copper pillars - 75-feet wide and 100-feet tall - holding up stopes in the Keweenaw mines.

What’s tons among friends? Always enjoy talking to Yoopers. Keep the pasties warm and save one for me. God bless you all.


23 posted on 08/06/2011 5:44:21 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

760 tons? You sure? Holly Wah! Dat Dere Is sure a lot of dem beer kettles.

I will tell you though. If a person could figure out how to mine that stuff with machinery, he’d be one rich booger now days thats for sure. Like I said. I know some divers that claim they have seen entire outcroppings under the water in the big lake.

This area is as rich in minerals as any place in the world. Yet we have one of the poorest populations. Why? Regulations thats why.

Like the fins say...That really is something else.


24 posted on 08/06/2011 5:52:38 PM PDT by crz
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To: sergeantdave

BTW dave. I have just made some pretty good Cornish Pasties out of some of the turnips I grew. Dont worry though..there are lots around here that sell them. Just dont get those made with road kill. Although the meat is tender, it gives ya the shits.


25 posted on 08/06/2011 5:55:52 PM PDT by crz
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To: BenLurkin

A few. They blend in good with the stew.


26 posted on 08/06/2011 6:00:50 PM PDT by crz
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To: crz

“I know some divers that claim they have seen entire outcroppings under the water in the big lake.”

They have. That’s a fact. We don’t have the technology to remove 100 million tons of copper sitting under Lake Superior.

The old miners in the 19th century got all the easy copper on Keweenaw’s spine. What remains to remove is difficult. A number of test mines have been run and failed.

From the old miners I talked to, we’ve removed about 10% of the copper on the surface. About 90% still sits there, waiting. I’ve got all the stats and historical records in my file. I’ve published those records.

Stan Dyl, former head of Michigan Tech’s Mineralogical Museum, has all the stats in his head. He’s one smart man. Don’t believe me? Talk to Stan.

In my opinion, people severely underestimate how much wealth sits on the Keweenaw Peninsula.

It’s trillions of dollars spread over decades.


27 posted on 08/06/2011 6:17:16 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: sergeantdave

It almost needs to be melted in the ground and pumped out.


28 posted on 08/06/2011 6:48:37 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: cripplecreek
Michigan got the better deal out of the Toledo strip dispute.

I have never heard of this. Looks like I have to do some reading tonight.

29 posted on 08/06/2011 6:48:46 PM PDT by Sawdring
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To: sergeantdave

I sent a set of samples from the Kingman AZ area and they are being used at Tech now. They are always excited to get things like that donated to them.

Like you said..there is trillions of dollars all there if they can just get the GD gubermint the hell outta the way. Think of it. This peninsula has vast Iron deposits, Some gold, some silver. a lot of copper, Timber up the wazoo, they have discovered oil on the Stonington Peninsula and we have to rely on boot licking from the gubermint to survive. I say we split this government and create our own. What the hell? We have shipping on INT waters just about year round now and all that wealth, what do we need with a government that is broke and dragging us down the hole?

I found this bit: WOW! That is one hell of a lot of copper!

http://www.exploringthenorth.com/redmetal/history.html


30 posted on 08/06/2011 6:51:05 PM PDT by crz
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To: Sawdring

Toledo war.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toledo_War

It amounted to taunting and a few shots fired into the air.


31 posted on 08/06/2011 6:52:20 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: Renfield

This is a great book on the subject;

http://www.amazon.com/Cradle-Grave-Death-Superior-Copper/dp/0195083571

Interesting statement on paternalistic companies, and how socialistic costs drove them out of business.
Evidently the mines angled 12,000 feet down.
I spent some time on the Keweenaw Peninsula about 15 years ago. Beautiful area. Still ruins of mines at the time, buildings, and even trains on torn up track. Slag piles, and grated over mine holes that emit steam on cold days in the winter. Found an old grave yard while driving around and most everyone who died in the mines (most of the graves) were on average under 30 years old. Michigan Tech in Houghton Hancock was originally a mining school. I am really fascinated by the area.


32 posted on 08/06/2011 6:54:13 PM PDT by Wildbill22
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To: crz
When DeSoto and his men crossed the (then Mississippi, now Ohio) at Angel Mounds (right at Green River Island) they eventually found "native copper in sheet form on one of their forays to what is now SE Indiana.

Now that's a very long way from the UP, but the Wisconsin glaciation in the last Ice Age could have easily rafted it to Southern Indiana ~ along with a gazillion other rocks and junk.

33 posted on 08/06/2011 7:02:12 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: crz
The lower peninsula sits on the Antrim shale gas formation and we can't touch that either.

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We're actually fairly rich with lowgrade low flow oil. Every single county in the lower peninsula has working oil wells.
34 posted on 08/06/2011 7:03:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: crz

Where’s the vihta?

You and your saunas. LOL!

I love you guys. You kicked Russia’s ass in the Winter War in 1939. I mean, holy cow, you Finns inflicted 1,000,000 casualties on the pig Stalin’s army. You were outnumbered 25 to 1. The Russian general in charge said: We took enough territory to bury our dead. That’s good, real good for the Finns.

I want you Finns on our flank for the next war, whenever and whatever it might be.


35 posted on 08/06/2011 7:11:12 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: cripplecreek
Some of the last ore concentrate from the Copper Range Company was loaded on a European bulk carrier in Superior, Wisconsin sometime in the early 90’s. I managed a fueling tanker in the Duluth-Superior Harbor in the 80s and 90s and remember this curious cargo that sailed out of the upper lake.
I note that American Steamship's licensed seamen went on strike last week and big ore carriers are parked all over the place.
36 posted on 08/06/2011 7:16:24 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Eh ?)
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To: sergeantdave
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37 posted on 08/06/2011 7:19:43 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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To: cripplecreek

“It almost needs to be melted in the ground and pumped out.”

It still comes down to hard rock mining, and the UP has some of the best. But the people who worked at Calumet & Hecla when it shut down in 1968 are getting old now, but they have knowledge they can pass onto young people.

I would love to see hard-rock copper mining back on the Keweenaw.


38 posted on 08/06/2011 7:25:20 PM PDT by sergeantdave
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To: cripplecreek

There’s over 9000 wells in the Antrim. Not to say that the regs aren’t a a pain, but the Antrim has been active for years. Much of the production pre-dates horizontal drilling.

Say yah to da UP, eh?


39 posted on 08/06/2011 7:30:50 PM PDT by 5by5
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To: sergeantdave

People think I’m nutty when I say that the time is right for a conservative migration to Michigan but we’ve started to tip the scales and need a conservative influx to keep the momentum.

While the rest of the country runs to the south, there is enormous untapped wealth in Michigan. We only need the political will to go after it.

It doesn’t promise to be easy but good things seldom are.


40 posted on 08/06/2011 7:33:56 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin)
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