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1 posted on 07/17/2011 2:50:17 PM PDT by Keltik
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2 posted on 07/17/2011 2:55:45 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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I don’t keep quiet - someone starts with the bashing around me, and I’m back at them. I won’t go quietly if it ever comes to that.


3 posted on 07/17/2011 3:03:51 PM PDT by rigelkentaurus
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This article is spot on. I’ve seen the same thing among people I know who consider themselves the enlightened. None are so closed minded as those.


4 posted on 07/17/2011 3:04:44 PM PDT by drbuzzard (different league)
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I live in MA. I've said "Boy, this unemployment is something, huh?" only to have a neighbor start screaming about George Bush and how all Republicans are racists.

Gotta toe the party line, or else the Leftists blow a gasket. They really can't handle alternative views.

I have, on occasion, tried to explain to them, that I know their position. I can explain their position. I can find points in their position that I find somewhat valuable. I then go on to explain to them that I don't think they have the slightest idea what the Conservative position might possibly be. I've been met with a smug, "I don't have to know your position. Why should I bother? Your position is wrong."

5 posted on 07/17/2011 3:06:58 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The USSR spent itself into bankruptcy and collapsed -- and aren't we on the same path now?)
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I live in NY, work in the arts. Welcome to my life.


6 posted on 07/17/2011 3:11:23 PM PDT by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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This got the same placid reaction and when I begged to differ, it started a two-hour argument that ruined everybody’s day. That’s the problem with grazing amid a leftist herd. You’re constantly on the edge of a huge argument.

Tsk, tsk. The author has not learned. You will not change a liberal's mind with clever comebacks or even two hour arguements. No, the best you can do, particularly in today's political environment, is create doubt.

For instance, state that Obama spent Trillions to stimulate the economy...and has failed. And that failure is so profound, that he will not recover..he is a permanent loser with permanently failed policies.

7 posted on 07/17/2011 3:16:08 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (Obama takes office, and 2 years later our nation is using the word “default”? -HereInTheHeartland)
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It is a given that the political right is a cartoon pig who will do anything for money and wants everyone who isn’t a cartoon pig to die.

Although he was a socialist, Orwell identified the true pigs correctly.

8 posted on 07/17/2011 3:19:36 PM PDT by He Rides A White Horse ((((unite))))
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Ultimately, and I mean very far down the line after much damage has been done and a lot of people have been hurt and impoverished, we will prevail. It may be cold comfort by then but ours is the only view that can prevail because it is the only one consistent with human nature and the rest of reality. By its nature, socialism must fail.


11 posted on 07/17/2011 3:22:12 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing an idiot)
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I totaly concur.

In the 50’s all news was local and reporting on it was only in the news paper for a day or two. VERY little was national and nobody worried about it because it was so far away and would not affect our town.

Now the news picks up crap from every city in the US and in the world and it stays on the news for months if not longer.

There is no longer articles about the junior high talent show or the kids that graduated from grade school, who won the local High School Baseball/Football/Spelling bee/etc.

Now is is about the crack heads in LA who randomly shoot someone because they looked at they in a manner they didn’t appreciate. Someone ran over a group of people in New York because a parade blocked them from getting home in time to watch their favorite TV show.

It is the news media. They only want to report what everyone else is reporting and trying to get on the first page or in the first section.

In the 50’s (and earlier) it was one or two reporters in a local newspaper that attended school functions, parades, funerals of local people who had made their mark on the city and its history - or were just well liked by one and all.

We are bombarded by negative crap from all over, day after day after week, etc., etc..

If you fill our minds with crap that is all that you will ever know.

Solution - shoot the reporters around the world and make all news local and have the reporters people who actually attend local events.


13 posted on 07/17/2011 3:35:01 PM PDT by jongaltsr (It)
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Read the comments. They are as good as the article.


19 posted on 07/17/2011 3:56:57 PM PDT by BBell
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The big one I hear is “Bush Tax Cuts for the Rich”.

That is the easiest one to “refudiate”, (thank you Sarah Palin).

The trick is to use this comeback, Just to clarify, what you are saying is the Bush Tax RATE Cuts decreased Tax Revenue, right? You will ALWAYS get a perplexed look, and then the Libtard will ALWAYS say YES.

At that point you explain that the Bush Tax RATE Cuts affected all Taxpayers and overall Tax Revenue to the Federal Government increased 35% in only four years after full implementation. At the same time, the “Rich” paid a larger portion of the Tax Revenues than ever, while the bottom 50% of earners paid less.

The follow up question is key. You ask the Libtard what would happen if all the Bush Tax RATES were repealed? Since they are clueless at this point, you tell them that the people in the lowest Tax Bracket will see their Tax Liability increase 50%, while the “Rich” will see their Tax Liability increase 10%.

Hit with an increase in Taxes, the Rich Small Business owners will cut back in other areas, NOT hiring additional employees being first on the list of cutbacks. Ironically, had those additional employees been hired by the greedy Rich guy, they would be hit with the 50% increase in their Taxes.

Classic Catch 22 situation.

20 posted on 07/17/2011 4:02:28 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Would you rather live in Obamaville or Palintown?)
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This in the end is what is driving me out of Minnesota. Not just the economy. People here are incapable of thinking, and just parrot what Mike Malloy, Ed Schultz, Rachel Maddow, and Keith Olbermann have told them. I had a blind date from Hell yesterday, and the woman’s reaction to me was the same as the Sutherland character when she found out that one of my clients was a company owned by the eeeevilllll Koch brothers. Since I had already accepted a job offer in Houston TX (home of the Bushtard, in DU speak), I had decided that I am not going to miss Minnestoopid one bit.
In my travels I have never seen a place so intellectually backwards, unimaginative (unless it’s a conspiracy by Bush/Cheney/Rove/Koch Brothers/Sarah Palin dog whistle), and downright hate filled.


21 posted on 07/17/2011 4:18:39 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (FUBO, the No Talent Pop Star pResident.)
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I like his story but it’s more like “being the last human in a room full of pod people” rather than the other way around.


23 posted on 07/17/2011 4:39:53 PM PDT by sjmjax (Politicans are like bananas - they start out green, turn yellow, then rot.)
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“An Alien Pod Person in a Room Full of Leftists”

Hmm..no....when in a room full of leftists I feel like a Titan among pygmies...because that pretty much makes me the smartest man in the room.


31 posted on 07/17/2011 6:22:51 PM PDT by GenXteacher (He that hath no stomach for this fight, let him depart!)
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I’ve had some success sandbagging leftists with their own catchphrases, using a more-in-sorrow-than-anger tone.

“I see you don’t care much for diverse opinions.”

“Isn’t that hate speech?”

“That certainly doesn’t sound very tolerant.”

“You seem to be carrying around a lot of anger.”

This works surprisingly well, because while leftists are profoundly intolerant and filled with anger, they don’t want to think of themselves that way. Just keep making quiet comments that underscore all the rage and ignorance they’re spewing. The key is never to get angry yourself. Then, after a while, gently ask if they’ve ever considered professional counseling.


32 posted on 07/17/2011 6:35:22 PM PDT by Interesting Times (WinterSoldier.com. SwiftVets.com. ToSetTheRecordStraight.com.)
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I told some group that Gore wanted cheap geothermal power because the Earth’s temperature several miles down was millions of degrees.

They all agreed that Gore was a genius.


34 posted on 07/17/2011 8:31:14 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Pelosi: Obamacare indulgences for sale.)
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OMG, yes. Read the whole article, and it’s like he’s been a hitchhiker on my shoulder. I live an hour north of SF, and all the aging hippies here can do is scream at you if you dare disagree with them. I do like the suggestion to use the left’s own tactics on them. I think I’ll start saying, “My, that sounded angry. Isn’t that hate speech? Don’t you support diversity of thought?” and see what happens. ;o)


38 posted on 07/18/2011 12:10:30 AM PDT by Hetty_Fauxvert ("And I'm actually happy to be, for us to be the moat with alligators party." -- Mark Steyn)
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