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Avoiding a Cloud Computing Armageddon
ConsortiumInfo ^ | Andy Updegrove

Posted on 06/09/2011 9:46:31 AM PDT by ShadowAce

Cloud computing is all the rage today, with everyone from the U.S. Federal government to Apple herding us into a brave new world of remotely hosted data and services.  There are, of course, many advantages to the cloud concept.  But as usual, this new IT architecture has some inherent and serious risks that cloud proponents hope potential customers will not dwell on.

There's nothing new about that, of course - except for the stakes.  Innovation usually outruns caution and comprehensive consideration of concerns like safety and unintended consequences.  But if we want to put all of our computing resources and data into one bucket, we had better make damn sure that it's got a pretty strong bottom.

Here's a nightmare scenario of what could happen otherwise.  And it's not pretty.

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In a wink of an eye, the earth had been cleansed of the heresies of modern civilization. The world was once again as Mohammed had known it.

In the first winter that followed, a billion people starved to death.

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If that caught your attention, you can read an in-depth analysis of the issues involved, and a critique of the degree to which the Obama administration's new cybersecurity plan would address them, in the Feature Article to the last issue of my eJournal, Standards Today.  You can find that article here.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Religion
KEYWORDS: cloud
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Andy has signed on as a FReeper at some point in the past. I cannot remember his screen name at this time, but he has asked me to excerpt his articles.

He does give an interesting, and plausible, possibility for cloud computing that is kinda scary.

1 posted on 06/09/2011 9:46:34 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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2 posted on 06/09/2011 9:47:16 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Thinking of all the recent Sony etc mass hacking recently, this one really belongs in the category:

“what could possibly go wrong?”


4 posted on 06/09/2011 9:48:37 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (BUY AMERICAN. The job you save will be your son's, or your daughter's)
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To: ShadowAce

Microsoft has the right idea about cloud computing: just use the word “cloud” every 5 minutes without actually fundamentally changing your approach to software architecture.


5 posted on 06/09/2011 9:51:12 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Herman Cain 2012)
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To: ShadowAce

I’m thinking the game Dust 514 may use cloud computing, as the maps are going to be huge, and the game itself is going to be a digital download, which makes me think it will be 1080p and require more space than a double-layer Blu-ray can hold. Especially since it will be directly connected to EVE Online, CCP is running it on their own superclusters.

Cloud computing is a great idea for video games. For hosting sensitive things though, maybe not so much.


6 posted on 06/09/2011 9:51:50 AM PDT by wastedyears (SEAL SIX makes me proud to have been playing SOCOM since 2003.)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
“what could possibly go wrong?”

Exactly. I prefer to keep my stuff locally where I am responsible for it. I know a lot of my personal information will end up on the cloud just because of banks/gov't/etc putting it out there, but I can at least mitigate the damage.

7 posted on 06/09/2011 9:53:00 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

I agree wholeheartedly.


8 posted on 06/09/2011 9:57:36 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four fried chickens and a coke)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
Cloud computing has its advantages but comes with one HUGE downside.

You no longer control your data and applications.

Back-up services are a great idea but you won't find me signing on for cloud computing.

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

9 posted on 06/09/2011 9:59:38 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: ShadowAce

It doesn’t have to be a massive apocalypse. If the wire dies you lose access to all your data, that’s the big problem with the cloud. It sounds cool all the way up until your entire company grinds to a screeching halt because of one lightning strike in the wrong place.


10 posted on 06/09/2011 9:59:41 AM PDT by discostu (Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn)
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To: ShadowAce
Exactly. I prefer to keep my stuff locally where I am responsible for it.

I just don't trust anyone that I do not know and don't trust some that I do! My stuff stays with me, and me only. Two computers, one online to surf with, and one for personal use and storage. I am private, and so is my photos and documents.

11 posted on 06/09/2011 10:02:19 AM PDT by rightly_dividing (1 Cor. 15:1-4 Believe it!)
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To: freedumb2003
Microsoft has the right idea about cloud computing: just use the word “cloud” every 5 minutes without actually fundamentally changing your approach to software architecture.

Bingo. Two two most annoying "cloud" commercials are the couple in the airport watching a TV show saved on their home DVR and the wife cutting and pasting pictures on her computer to assemble a decent family photo. Neither has anything to do with cloud computing. In fact the first one is specifically anti-cloud since the TV show was stored on a specific known device kept in their house.

Cloud computing can be convenient, but always make sure that you have a copy of the data under your personal control so that you can rebuild it if the cloud service company goes out of business or just decides to not store your data for some reason. What happens if Apple decides that it won't store or allow redownloads of your iTunes music and you didn't keep a copy on your own hard disk?

12 posted on 06/09/2011 10:02:41 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: ShadowAce

It sounds like a great plot for a novel.


13 posted on 06/09/2011 10:02:56 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (When itÂ’s time to bury your weapons...itÂ’s time to dig them up.)
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To: ShadowAce
Once upon a time...

a computer was this big thing called a “main frame” that took up nearly a room. It was a mysterious object that could only be serviced or modified by the people that sold it to you. Likewise the only software you could use also came through the people that sold it to you. You were allowed to use a dumb terminal that was totally dependent on the mainframe, over which you had absolutely no control....

then came the mini-computer. You were still pretty much at the mercy of the people that sold it to you for upgrades and software, but a small percentage of controlling your own destiny was allotted to you.....

and finally near nirvana - the micro computer. You could open the box, install a variety of components of your own choosing, select from numerous brands of software, and even different operating systems.....

and now - the evolution to - sealed plastic boxes that you can do nothing with and software choices entirely by the manufacturer. Even your data won't be under your control. You will now have essentially a wireless terminal to the mainframe.

Why does all this sound so familiar?

Why do I refuse to have anything to do with it?

Why do people fall for it? - Wait, that one I know - because they weren't around to remember what a f-up situation computing was when your world revolved around a “mainframe”

I do.

14 posted on 06/09/2011 10:06:04 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: KarlInOhio

I don’t do TV so I had no idea what Cloud computing meant until a few days ago. My old band did “cloud computing” by using google documents to store and retrieve song lists and rehearsal agendas, schedules. It was VERY convenient.

I certainly would not use it for anything important, though. Well, all my future terrorist plans are in google docs. Schedules, locations, bomb blast requirements for the specific target. That sort of thing. I’m sure it’s secure though...

;)


15 posted on 06/09/2011 10:09:15 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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>>Why do people fall for it? - Wait, that one I know - because they weren’t around to remember what a f-up situation computing was when your world revolved around a “mainframe”

I do. <<

Well, not to be contrary, but back in those days, people didn’t discuss computers and viruses in the same sentence. ;)


16 posted on 06/09/2011 10:11:32 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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17 posted on 06/09/2011 10:12:46 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: ShadowAce
In a wink of an eye, the earth had been cleansed of the heresies of modern civilization.

Interesting scenario. In 2008 when things were going to hell, I bought "The Encyclopedia of Country Living". It's not a complete survival book, but more of a Swiss army knife of survival knowledge. Could you figure out how to slaughter and prepare a hog? Now would you know how to do it without access to Google? I wanted something in paper form in case everything collapsed.

18 posted on 06/09/2011 10:15:50 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! Tea Party extremism is a badge of honor.)
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To: RobRoy
“Well, not to be contrary, but back in those days, people didn’t discuss computers and viruses in the same sentence.”

No, we discussed an entire company being brought to its knees because of a simple bug in the mainframe that nobody could located. We discussed lost productivity because too many people were on it once and the system was “paging.” We discussed a mysterious OZ that was beyond any of our control, yet it could completely turn our schedules upside down.

The idea that “cloud” computing is somehow justified because immature idiots won't stop going to porno sites and getting virus infections is ludicrous. Let the children play around on the internet and cloud computing. The adults that actually have to be productive and make money can do just fine without it.

19 posted on 06/09/2011 10:18:53 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: ShadowAce

ping for later ...


20 posted on 06/09/2011 10:28:56 AM PDT by Lmo56 (If ya wanna run with the big dawgs - ya gotta learn to piss in the tall grass ...)
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