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Herman Cain On FOX Sunday With Chris Wallace
FreeRepublic ^ | Monday, May 23, 2011 | Gargantua

Posted on 05/23/2011 6:30:49 AM PDT by Gargantua

While it is clear from the outset that a large percentage of lurkers and posters on FreeRepublic are staunch supporters of Sarah Palin, there are nonetheless a significant if considerably smaller number who avidly support Herman Cain. My curiosity piqued by this fact, I decided to watch Herman in his interview yesterday on “2012 One-on-One” with Chris Wallace, FOX NEWS Sunday.

As the show opened, Chris ran a videotape of Herman at a campaign stop where he commandeered the stage with an undeniable presence, arms spread expansively, and said “Once I am president, Americans will be able to say, “Free at last, free at last; thank God Almighty we are once again free at last.”' Truly powerful stuff.

Wallace went on to query Cain in some detail about what he referred to as “The Cain Doctrine.” Chris first asked him, “Free from what?” I won't waste time by reciting a verbatim transcript of the back-and-forth between them, but I have supplied a link < http://video.foxnews.com/v/954878611001/ > which I encourage you to use to verify what I am reporting here. Cain listed those things from which Americans can expect to be freed by electing him president, and then he enumerated in detail the steps he would take as president to deliver us.

Wallace then “drilled deep,” asking pointed questions about the specific facets Cain had laid out, and brought up the fact that many of these suggestions Cain had listed, in fact, would not work given the current economic situation. Cain, in a surprise move, agreed, saying, “If they (Republicans) had seen these things coming, and done what I am suggesting a year ago, it could have worked. But no, it will not work now.”

Cain laid out his point-by-point plan for fixing America's problems, then admitted that the plan would not, could not work. I'm as stunned as I have ever been.

I understand how incongruous, unlikely, and absolutely contradictory this sounds. I implore you, go to the link I have provided and watch what I watched. It is astounding. At two minutes and 30 seconds into this 13 minute vid, just look at the expression on Herman's face as Wallace questions him. He looks like a student trying to come up with an excuse for why he hadn't read the chapter assigned to him the day before.

That said, please ignore the characterizations and opinions here, and watch the video. For any candidate to lay out in detail a plan for America's success, citing it as the reason why we all should vote for him, and then immediately follow up by admitting that his plan cannot work is pretty much the beginning and the end of his campaign. I understand the desire to field a Republican candidate who is a person of color, since that would remove from their quiver the Democrats’ predictable arrows and accusations of racism.

But just as my heart sank when Lt. Col. Allen West stated with finality that he would not be seeking the presidency in 2012, I realized that Herman Cain, whether or not he is capable of winning the primary (and given what we see here, that remains a very serious question), quite simply is not the one we need or should want leading this nation from the White House. There are times when he does say all the right things, and I do not question that his heart is in the right place. Well-written speeches and good intentions alone do not a great leader make. America needs a great leader.

It would be very easy, and I even fully expect, for many of Cain's most staunch supporters here on FreeRepublic to simply accuse me of having an agenda or to state factually that my allegiances lay elsewhere. While I do indeed have an agenda, and while it is true that I prefer another for the White House in 2012, those facts do not dismiss, explain, or forgive the unbridgeable gap between the promises held in Herman rhetoric and his own admission that his plan will never deliver them.

America needs a great leader, and that leader is not Herman Cain.


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To: MNJohnnie

“This isn’t a carefully thought out reasoned position, it is a Alinsky style personal attack because this poster is incapable of making a reasoned argument FOR Palin.”

Disclaimer - I’m for Palin. Now on with the show.

1. “Alinsky style”, sounds like you who are the one making a personal attack. Frankly, none of us like to see our candidate choice(s) screw up with the dinosaur media (he was in the friendliest press environment he is ever going to see in his campaign).
2. “Right of return” was a gotcha type question; a lot of people didn’t know what the hell Chris was talking about, so that was no big deal.
3. The article was about Cain’s performance, so proselytizing about Palin was not relevant.
4. Cain, like Bachmann before him, needs to brush up on his interview skills (Of course Palin had a similar problem some time ago).
5. His poor performance re the Cain plan reversal tended to overshadow the many good things he had to say.
6. If Palin and Bachmann don’t run, he may be all we have left.
7. Santorum is an idiot. Christie doesn’t like guns. Trump is a joke. The RINOs are where they want to be right now with Myth virtually uncontested. Meanwhile the rest of us conservatives are wandering in the wilderness, sucking hind tit, wondering who is going to come to our rescue.

Off topic, but here is a possible REAL question:
If it’s Romney vs. Obama will you vote for Romney or sit out the election?


81 posted on 05/23/2011 9:10:55 AM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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To: Sudetenland

Palin quit her last job.

Herman BOUGHT his last job.


82 posted on 05/23/2011 9:13:15 AM PDT by RockinRight (Cain/Bolton - the perfect ticket for America's future.)
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To: secondamendmentkid
If it’s Romney vs. Obama will you vote for Romney or sit out the election?

I'll get piss-drunk, wear a gas mask, and vote for Mittens.

83 posted on 05/23/2011 9:14:52 AM PDT by RockinRight (Cain/Bolton - the perfect ticket for America's future.)
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To: Gargantua
I understand the desire to field a Republican candidate who is a person of color, since that would remove from their quiver the Democrats’ predictable arrows and accusations of racism.

Who's desire is this?

The Dims will call everyone/anyone a racist, if they have an "R" behind their name...It doesn't matter their "color".

84 posted on 05/23/2011 9:17:10 AM PDT by Osage Orange (The MSM is an enemy of the United States of America)
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To: RockinRight

“I’ll get piss-drunk, wear a gas mask, and vote for Mittens”

The gas mask won’t protect you from “nerve” gas. You’ll also need some atropine. Add in some thorazine, haldol, paxil, etc. and put on your straight jacket. You’ll likely have plenty of company from your colleagues here at FR.


85 posted on 05/23/2011 9:21:24 AM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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To: Osage Orange

“The Dims will call everyone/anyone a racist, if they have an “R” behind their name...It doesn’t matter their “color”.

In Cain’s case, it would be “Uncle Tom” ala the Clarence Thomas mode. It’s time for GOPers of all colors to stop kowtowing to this BS from the “racers.” The Dems see GOP bunkering every time they bring up ‘racism”. Time to cut that water off with BOLD statements from people with nads.


86 posted on 05/23/2011 9:26:51 AM PDT by secondamendmentkid
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To: RockinRight
"Palin quit her last job."

No, that's a lie. Palin's last job (Political Analyst for the most-viewed news network on TV) she still works at.

Her last job before that (Starring in the most-watched TV Documentary ever on The History Channel) she fulfilled her contract on.

Her job before that (Publishing a personal Campaign Memoire called "Going Rogue") she finished ahead of schedule, and became an all-time bestseller for a first-time author, spending nearly three months atop the NY Times Bestseller list.

Get your facts straight. Then spout like a popping zit.

;-\

87 posted on 05/23/2011 9:27:20 AM PDT by Gargantua (Palin 2012 ~ "Going Oval" ©2010 by Gargantua)
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To: Sans-Culotte

Maybe Cain could be Palin’s running mate. Then, if she wins, Cain could get some on-the-job experience as President (starting in mid-2015) for his 2016 run.


88 posted on 05/23/2011 10:32:20 AM PDT by 57 Red States
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To: Gargantua

Gargantua is a great guy. He just doesn’t have it. Not even close.

“Herman is a great guy. He just doesn’t have it. Not even close”.

How’s that working for ya?

I watched the segment (just now) after reading half a dozen threads about Cain’s “screw-up”.

I don’t see Cain in the light you paint, at all.

Aren’t you just the latest poster fantasizing about a Justin Bieber Christmas?

If you have arrived at a Palin moment fine, no problem. I object to your portrayal of Cain’s segment as a failure.

That didn’t happen.

The sweaty notes being passed around by greased hands in dark hallways portrays Cain as someone who would never be nominated.

My idea is different. Let’s welcome the new candidates with donations and support.

And let us not print faux narratives.


89 posted on 05/23/2011 10:46:41 AM PDT by widdle_wabbit
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To: Gargantua

Popping zits? You supporting the Ron Paul coalition?


90 posted on 05/23/2011 10:50:47 AM PDT by widdle_wabbit
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To: MNJohnnie
Liberotten Misleadia

That's beautiful! May I steal it?

8^)

91 posted on 05/23/2011 10:59:28 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Gargantua
Perhaps you feel that a candidate who is "honest enough" to admit he has no plan should just be given the Oval Office based on that candor alone? LMAO

WADR, he had a plan, then when it was analyzed and found not workable, he admitted it. How rare that is in politics! BTW, Sarah is my favorite, and I think she would respond the same way to that kind of situation.

92 posted on 05/23/2011 11:07:27 AM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Gargantua
As appalling as was his appearance on FOX, I'm even more surprised by the pass he's being given by these few hardcore Cainiacs here on FR.

I saw many of those snarling replies, and they stuck with me even while I was driving to work. There's no question that Cain could have (and should have) handled that better than he did, but the fact that some don't want us to even bring it up, is troubling.

I don't think I've said that Cain is unqualified or unfit for the task of president, but his error with Chris Wallace is a demerit, and should be counted as such. That's all.

93 posted on 05/23/2011 11:53:03 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Gargantua

Take your race talk elsewhere.


94 posted on 05/23/2011 12:19:50 PM PDT by widdle_wabbit
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To: secondamendmentkid

“sucking hind tit, wondering who is going to come to our rescue.”

Sucking hind tit is no place to be.

Will you sit out a Cain election process?


95 posted on 05/23/2011 12:34:37 PM PDT by widdle_wabbit
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To: Gargantua

“Got any acid? I could use some Brown Windowpane right about now. LOL

8^D”

This is the internet. You seem to be in favor of Sarah. I like her immensely.

Be polite and sober in your advocacy, please.


96 posted on 05/23/2011 12:57:22 PM PDT by widdle_wabbit
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To: JimRed
"Liberotten Misleadia That's beautiful! May I steal it?"

You have my blessing. Steal away.

8^D

97 posted on 05/23/2011 12:57:42 PM PDT by Gargantua (Palin 2012 ~ "Going Oval" ©2010 by Gargantua)
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To: widdle_wabbit
Get bent.

;^\

98 posted on 05/23/2011 1:00:09 PM PDT by Gargantua (Palin 2012 ~ "Going Oval" ©2010 by Gargantua)
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To: Gargantua

“Fun and games aside for a moment, it is a bit sobering that some of these shrill, uncomprehending ninnies have votes that make yours and mine basically useless”.

“shrill, uncomprehending ninnies”

Think pretty highly of yourself, much?


99 posted on 05/23/2011 1:01:56 PM PDT by widdle_wabbit
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To: Gargantua

And #100 “get bent”s to you to, putz!


100 posted on 05/23/2011 1:11:09 PM PDT by widdle_wabbit
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