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Naming a son Barack Hussein Obama was illegal under Hawaii Law in 1961
Google Books ^ | 1860 | Hawaiian Government

Posted on 01/21/2011 10:43:11 PM PST by bushpilot1

Section 2. All children born in wedlock after the passage of this Act shall have their father’s name as a family name.

They shall, besides, have a Christian name suitable to their sex.

Section 3.. All illegitimate children born after the passage of this Act shall have their mother’s name as a family name. They shall, besides, have a. Christian name suitable to their sex.

This law was in effect until 1967. Barack and Hussein are Semitic words, they are not Christian. They are not from the English language.

How is it possible the birth certificate displayed is legal when the name is illegal.

What is real his real name? Where was he born?

All of this does not really matter..his father is a foreigner. He can never be a natural born citizen. It sure would be nice to know his real name

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To: mamelukesabre

Is this a Christian name: Barack Hussein Obama.


61 posted on 01/22/2011 1:21:14 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: mamelukesabre

“You can’t be serious. The term “christian name” is old timey for first name. Do you think ethnic hawaiians are all named david and joshua?”

Oh course. Every male ever born in Hawaii is named David, Joshua, Mark, Matthew, Timothy, Joseph, Jesus or Noah.

And every single female ever born in Hawaii is by law named Mary.


62 posted on 01/22/2011 1:30:11 AM PST by trumandogz
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To: LucyT

Thanks for posting the link to Steve Dunham.


63 posted on 01/22/2011 1:32:06 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: aruanan
"So what it really means is: have a first name (AKA Christian name) suitable to their sex. So no boys could be named Sue or Fatima or Taniqua and no girls could be named Richard or Ali or Rayshawn."

Since Barry is named according to his sex, he would be more Christian than his mother, a girl named "Stanley". ROFL

64 posted on 01/22/2011 1:56:11 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: bushpilot1
Looks like the Psychopath In Chief and his lackeys love to fill the air with their lies...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiGjxxytLy8

65 posted on 01/22/2011 2:05:31 AM PST by Prole (Please pray for the families of Chris and Channon. May God always watch over them.)
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To: bushpilot1

Thats a COLB.

Not a long form Birth Certificate.

As I understand it, no baby, father or mother is required for a COLB. You just go to the office and get one.

Newspaper notices are then automatically generated from COLBs, which is why Bambi has one of those too.


67 posted on 01/22/2011 2:37:31 AM PST by agere_contra (Historically every time the Left has 'expanded its moral imagination' the results have been horrific)
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To: bushpilot1
باراك حسين أوباما
68 posted on 01/22/2011 2:41:52 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for Obama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: bushpilot1

Another unfairly anti-semetic law overturned, giving rise to thousands of Quaneeshas, Muhammads, Vaginas,etc.


69 posted on 01/22/2011 3:00:56 AM PST by nkycincinnatikid
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To: bushpilot1

but the question is, what are they going to do about it?


70 posted on 01/22/2011 3:16:31 AM PST by television is just wrong
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To: shibumi

“Yoni Anderson” ping.

[ah, the good old days]

;D


71 posted on 01/22/2011 3:34:29 AM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: kabumpo

You got it.

“Yoni” is the current New Age catch-all name.

Brace yerself....:)

http://www.yoni.com/

[you can even buy puppets!]


72 posted on 01/22/2011 3:37:17 AM PST by Salamander (Can't sleep....the clowns will eat me.)
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To: Ramius

” How many times are you going to post this today? “

you sure seem to have a problem with people wanting to get to the truth

you must be a sheep that has easily rolled over and just want to keep grazing


73 posted on 01/22/2011 3:48:30 AM PST by SF_Redux (Sarah stands for accountablility and personal responsiblity, democrats can't live with that)
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To: mnehring

I agree. It is also your baptized name.


74 posted on 01/22/2011 3:49:27 AM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: kabumpo

Dennis is correct. The first name was referred to as “Christian” because in the majority of cases it was given at baptism.>>>>>>>>>>>>

Yes your Christian name was your baptism name. For non-Christians their first name was still referred to colloquially as their “Christian name”


75 posted on 01/22/2011 4:49:25 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: F15Eagle
Doesn’t matter where John McCain was born. Both of his parents were citizens, no? Of course this has changed since even Obama (and McCain obviously) were born.
  1. was John McCain born on US soil or Panamanian soil?
  2. there are many indications he was born on Panamanian soil not on US territory or military base
  3. lets say he was born on Panamanian soil
  4. therefore at birth he had two potential citizenships
  5. thus he was not natural born .....he was not a US citizen at the instant of his birth
  6. later on he chose US citizenship
  7. the current law is you choose at age 18 (I think)
  8. not sure what the law was back when McCain was born

76 posted on 01/22/2011 4:57:19 AM PST by dennisw (- - - -He who does not economize will have to agonize - - - - - Confucius)
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To: bushpilot1; LucyT
from A Brief Introduction to the History of Names
By Dame Cateline de la Mor la souriete

"With the rise of Christianity, certain trends in naming practices manifested. Christians were encouraged to name their children after saints and martyrs of the church. The oldest of these names were Jewish and Greco­Roman names. The names of the apostles and other prominent early Christians mentioned in the New Testament were often Jewish, such as Mary, Martha, Matthew, James, Joseph and John. The early Christians lived in the Roman empire, and it is among the other peoples of the empire that they first began to convert non­Jews. As a result of the persecutions in the early centuries, many Greco­Roman names entered the Christian name pool in commemoration of the martyrs and saints, such as Anthony, Catherine, Margaret, Mark, Martin, Nicholas and Paul.

These early Christian names can be found in many cultures today, in various forms. These were spread by early missionaries throughout the Mediterranean basin and Europe. At the same time pagan nations newly converted to Christianity did not abandon their original name pool. Native martyrs and saints soon arose in every culture and their names would be added to the pool of Christian names available to Christian parents. The Christian name pool sometimes preserved names that would have otherwise fallen out of use. For example, most Anglo­Saxon names fell out of use within two centuries of the Norman Conquest of England. One that did not, because it was the name of a famous saint, is the name Edward, which is still in use today.

By the Middle Ages, the Christian influence on naming practices was pervasive. Each culture had its pool of names, which were a combination of native names and early Christian names that had been in the language long enough to be considered native. The naming pools did continue to evolve, so that a selection of ninth century Frankish names bears little resemblance to a selection of twelfth century French names. The interesting thing is that the "early Christian names" changed the least in most name pools."

from the Catholic Encyclopedia

"Christian names", says the Elizabethan antiquary, Camden, "were imposed for the distinction of persons, surnames for the difference of families."

It would seem from this that, even in the sixteenth century, the etymological and historical significance of the phrase "Christian name" was growning dim, and it is commonly quite forgotten in our own time. But, strictly speaking, the "Christian name" is not merely the forename distinctive of the individual member of a family, but the name given to him at his "christening", i.e., his baptism.

Names without Christian significance and probably derived from pagan ancestors:

Baraka means 'blessing' in Kiswahili and comes from the Arabic spoken by the Omani Arabs that lived and traded along the coast of East Africa. It is a common name for boys in Kenya and Tanzania.

The name Hussein comes from Arabic origin meaning "One who is handsome".

"Obama" is a name from the Luo ethnic group of southwestern Kenya, where Barack Obama was born. It is based on the Luo (technically, Dholuo, the name of the language of the Luo) word bam, which means "crooked, slightly bending."
77 posted on 01/22/2011 5:18:11 AM PST by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: porter_knorr

I guess next thing to do is investigate hospital records to see if anybody born in hawaii before 1967 had a non christian name to see if this law was specifically enforced.


78 posted on 01/22/2011 5:49:34 AM PST by scbison
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To: XHogPilot

It was the proper term to use in the Dutch colonies...Kenya was one.


79 posted on 01/22/2011 6:00:31 AM PST by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: bushpilot1

My name is Ari (short for Aristotle). Would my name be outlawed in Hawaii?


80 posted on 01/22/2011 6:08:54 AM PST by Kleon
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