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Need Serious Help.
12/1/10 | me

Posted on 12/11/2010 4:28:00 PM PST by NoGrayZone

To make a long story short.... as a child, my brother saw a demon outside our window (back then you had to have the tv by a window because of heat generated). He saw this demon "dancing" around our window. He has been plagued w/ nothing but horror.

Now, in these days, he has over come his demons; however, his first born son has seen this demon, a few months ago, outside his window. His first born son described to him ( at first reluctant that he would not be believed) the same thing my brother saw as a child. My brother was stunned.

We need help. I truly believe in satan and his demons to be as real as we are. What can we do? Who do we turn to?

Some may see this as nonsense, but we are living this in real life. Can anyone help us or at least lead us to someone who can help?


TOPICS: Cheese, Moose, Sister; Conspiracy; Pets/Animals; Religion; UFO's
KEYWORDS: child; demons; inthenameofjesusgo; needserioushelp; prayer; satan; spiritualwarfare
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To: Williams
MORE STRAW DOGS

from the peanut galleries.

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WHO said ANYthing about

believing EVERYthing
a 4 year old says?

Sheesh.

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401 posted on 12/12/2010 12:13:47 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Abin Sur

I don’t recall anyone saying that

EVERY incidence of such activities results in

overtly horrific consequences.

There are likely some impacts at some level from

virtually

every such activity—depending on a

LOT of other factors.


402 posted on 12/12/2010 12:15:54 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: j.argese

Sounds like that perspective

knows little

of the power of Jesus’ Blood as protection as well as in terms of deliverance.

Authentic Believers in Christ, coverd in His blood, confessed up, prayed up, forgiving up . . .

do NOT walk around easy prey of even the fiercest demons.


403 posted on 12/12/2010 12:19:12 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: j.argese; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Captain Beyond; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...

Sounds like that perspective

knows little

of the power of Jesus’ Blood as protection as well as in terms of deliverance.

Authentic Believers in Christ, coverd in His blood, confessed up, prayed up, forgiving up . . .

do NOT walk around easy prey of even the fiercest demons.


404 posted on 12/12/2010 12:19:47 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Grizzled Bear

INDEED.


405 posted on 12/12/2010 12:20:55 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Abin Sur

Limited research, teaching, information =

Limited awareness

equals

lack of knowledge, lack of understanding,

ignorance

. . . . less options . . . less freedom . . .

Help yourself.


406 posted on 12/12/2010 12:22:39 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: Lazamataz

Hey, silly rabbit.

Hope you’re warm and well fed this season.


407 posted on 12/12/2010 12:23:27 PM PST by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I don't wish to sound argumentative. I see this at post #171:

What precisely a priest or pastor is going to do? What exactly is "claiming authority" over a house all about? What kind of action are they going to take against a demon?

All authority has been given to Christ. We have no authority:

Our Lord who steers the universe controls the demons as well as the angels. He will protect and guide us away from all harm.
408 posted on 12/12/2010 12:36:17 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: martin_fierro

400+ replies and nobody's done this... this place is slipping.

409 posted on 12/12/2010 12:43:58 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Pablo lives jubtabulously!)
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To: null and void; NoGrayZone

C:_
Inventory:
You are holding: A bag that you don’t now what it is, a book of vogon poetry, bad coffee, and a super-destructo-hyper-vibro-atomic-toothbrush.
Exits are north, east, and south.


410 posted on 12/12/2010 12:47:30 PM PST by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: HarleyD

Claiming authority in Christ’s name ...

When I bought my first home, the very first thing we did before we brought in a single box was bless the house. We annointed every door and window. As we did so, we claimed Christ’s authority over the house and protection upon all who would enter it or reside there. Then we asked for Christ’s blessing upon the house.

The only action one can take against a demonic presence is to cast it out in the name of Christ. But I would encourage anyone engaging in spritiual warfare to spend much time in the Word and prayer before taking any such action. I’ve seen people who are not solid in their faith attempt to do such things in Christ’s name only to make things worse. If one doesn’t have a close personal relationship with Christ, claiming His authority over a demonic presence can embolden that presence because it knows your faith is weak. So it will “attack” you to demonstrate that its power is greater than your faith.


411 posted on 12/12/2010 1:00:50 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: HarleyD

I didn’t answer your question about the priest/pastor. Sorry.

Seeking the counsel of a priest/pastor who is experienced in such matters is important for those who are unsure how to handle a demonic presence. What can a pastor do? He can provide wise counsel. I absolutely recommend against having a priest/pastor perform “mumbo jumbo rituals and chants.” That isn’t going to help.

“You” have to live there. “You” must deal with the presence.


412 posted on 12/12/2010 1:13:06 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Quix

“I would track down 2-3 groups, with competent balanced, experienced leaders . . .

preferably at least one or 2 of them with some training from Derek Prince and a good track record of great discernment and great success in the deliverance ministry without a lot of flakiness.

BONDAGE BREAKER is a great book

Also, THE BAIT OF SATAN.

And, likely the home/house needs a spiritual house cleansing wherein all idols, satanic music etc. etc. etc. needs to have associated confessions and repentances and then to be broken up, burned, tossed out etc.

There should also be prayer regarding ancestral spirits coming down following through the generations.

The leaders should be able to hear Holy Spirit about how such things gained an entry into the family lives and those things should be repented of and those doors shut and sealed with the Blood of The Lamb.

Search out 2-3 such groups and ask as many questions as you can about their levels of experience, evident anointing, training, etc. and their track record of success as well as humility, balance etc. Go with the one that feels most potent and fitting for your situation.”
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This is excellent advice. Years ago I was involved in a prayer and deliverance ministry until the church decided to go the mega church route rather than follow God. Also, as someone else said, the first question asked is has the person accepted Jesus Christ into their heart as Lord and Savior.

Any Christian has authority in Jesus name over demons, but not all have the maturity to exercise it. If you sense a demon around you, certainly rebuke it in Jesus name. The problems of facing more serious attacks are going to be from trying to enter into deliverance of demons from another person. Even a “baby” Christian can do a simple house cleansing with a little direction, but delivering a “person” from demons takes someone highly knowledgeable, experienced, “prayed up,” and under the direction of the Holy Spirit.

With generational spirits or curses, it may take someone else to get discernment as we aren’t always honest with ourselves or want to recognize/ acknowledge certain things. In NGZ’s posted situation, I would recommend outside spiritual help since the demon has actually physically manifested itself to both father and son. I would do this for the discernment of why and what needs to be done to properly deal with it.

To address the neurological issues people brought up, as an RN, they’re usually a little more obvious, and frankly I’d try prayer and deliverance (free) before thousands of dollars in tests...but then I’ve been healed several times through prayer.


413 posted on 12/12/2010 1:41:20 PM PST by pops88
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To: Tijeras_Slim

Is that his mother-in-law? ;O)


414 posted on 12/12/2010 1:53:33 PM PST by HarleyD
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To: pops88
Any Christian has authority in Jesus name over demons, but not all have the maturity to exercise it.

That is so important it needs repeating!

415 posted on 12/12/2010 1:55:46 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: NoGrayZone

Rev. Kenneth Hagin in Oklahoma would be a good choice, as would be Rev. Henry Wright in Georga.

This isn’t something for an amateur to deal with.


416 posted on 12/12/2010 2:19:05 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: Responsibility2nd

> “And the Bible warns against following such silliness.”

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Reference please?

(oh I forgot, you’ve never read it)


417 posted on 12/12/2010 2:26:16 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: HarleyD; BuckeyeTexan

> “All authority has been given to Christ. We have no authority”

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Your statement is self-contradictory.

We have the authority through Christ, if we are covered by his blood. That is the Priesthood of the new covenant.


418 posted on 12/12/2010 2:35:00 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: dixiechick2000

Lol, yes I headed off after posting too. There are unexplained things that happen, I leave it at that.


419 posted on 12/12/2010 2:39:38 PM PST by potlatch ( Life must be lived forward but can only be seen looking backward. - Soren Kierkegaard)
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To: Lady Jag

I agree with you. Frightening things!


420 posted on 12/12/2010 2:58:39 PM PST by potlatch ( Life must be lived forward but can only be seen looking backward. - Soren Kierkegaard)
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