Chinese villagers 'descended from Roman soldiers'

The Telegraph ^ | 11/23/2010 | NIck Squires

[markomalley]

Cai Junnian's green eyes give a hint he may be a descendant of Roman mercenaries who allegedly fought the Han Chinese 2,000 years ago

Genetic testing of villagers in a remote part of China has shown that nearly two thirds of their DNA is of Caucasian origin, lending support to the theory that they may be descended from a 'lost legion' of Roman soldiers.

Tests found that the DNA of some villagers in Liqian, on the fringes of the Gobi Desert in north-western China, was 56 per cent Caucasian in origin.

Many of the villagers have blue or green eyes, long noses and even fair hair, prompting speculation that they have European blood.

A local man, Cai Junnian, is nicknamed by his friends and relatives Cai Luoma, or Cai the Roman, and is one of many villagers convinced that he is descended from the lost legion.

Archeologists plan to conduct digs in the region, along the ancient Silk Route, to search for remains of forts or other structures built by the fabled army.

"We hope to prove the legend by digging and discovering more evidence of China's early contacts with the Roman Empire," Yuan Honggeng, the head of a newly-established Italian Studies Centre at Lanzhou University in Gansu province, told the China Daily newspaper.

[bigheadfred]

Most likely a mix of Caucasian and Central Asian

Nice cover.

But, to the discerning eye, "inscrutably mad" Mad! Mad I Say!...is most likely the answer...;-)

[bigheadfred]

the Celts , you see, were nothing more than ignorant barbarians.

And none more ignorant and barbaric than THIS clan. My father is a reincarnated Druid priest, you see...

[Verginius Rufus]

Some medieval Buddhist texts from Central Asia (on the Silk Route, I think, but I don't know if any of them were found within the borders of China) were in two closely-related languages which are called Tocharian A and Tocharian B. They are part of the Indo-European family of languages but more closely related to the western languages (Celtic, Italic, Greek) than to the most eastern languages (Indo-Iranian or Slavic). Who knows what other languages were spoken in the area but never recorded.

The Chinese word for horse, ma, may be a loan-word from an Indo-European language (and cognate with the English word "mare").

Maybe some of the Macedonians settled in Central Asia by Alexander the Great got restless and moved further east.

[Candor7]

Don't put words in my mouth. You left off my sarc tag O great civilized one.(Something a genuinely civilized person would not do, BTW).ROFLMAO! Its just politically incorrect to mention all of this; the Celts , you see, were nothing more than ignorant barbarians./s

[Candor7]

Cai Nullian, its a Celtic name.

Goes like this:

Cai Na LLian ( then Transcribe the L for R, we know the Asians have never said r properly, and they mix up L with r)

Kyle Na Righan

Or in modern English it would be :

Kyle Reagan.

Besides you can look at Cai Nullian in the photo and see that he has Irish style features in his facial bone structure.

[InternetTuffGuy]

Bring the young ladies out. I can tell nationality by the boobies. Show me the boobies.

Giggity.

[RegulatorCountry]

there are 2 kinds of Mexicans, the aztecas (dark) and the mestizos (white).

That doesn't match my exposure, in Mexico, New Mexico and south Florida. Indios or aztecas are the dark people of smaller stature, at the bottom of their pecking order. They are the inhabitants who greeted the Spaniards.

In between are the strivers, not quite sure whether to claim to be white or indigenous, and claim either when it's advantageous to do so. These are the mestizos, literally mixed race people, white and indio.

At the top of the heap, in Mexico, New Mexico, south Florida, Cuba before Castro, any Hispanic culture or nation really, are the Castillians. They're as white as any European and in fact are descended from nothing but. Spain is a European country, Spanish is a European language and the people who fanned out from there to conquer various continents and peoples were European.

It's really all quite "racist" by any standard, and to hear such people claim racial victimhood is peculiar beyond words. But, it's what our pop culture media have foisted upon us, and they do capitalize upon it. It's all about what they can get, and we're dumbed down enough to swallow it, hook line and sinker.

[bigheadfred]

But it’s there! In the tagline...(if that doesn’t work I’m begging you! Not the face! ANYTHING BUT THE FACE!)

Speaking of civilized. What do you make of this?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2632711/posts?page=17#17

(not a thread hijack, I swear!)

[Candor7]

LOL, you are a very tricky civilized man.

Yes, True Republican Patriot has got it nailed.

Obama and his fascists are doing just as he says in your referenced thread post.

The problem is that so far, Congress thinks it is business as usual.

IT IS NOT.

[Ditto]

Most Romans were dark, and did not have green eyes and red hair.

In 100 AD, a Roman could look like most anybody, except Oriental. Their empire had been pretty vast for a couple hundred years by then, and all types of ethnic strains which were always intermingling were considered to be 'Roman.' Just like America today, it is becoming difficult to identify people as being part of any single ethnic strain.

[bigheadfred]

Many of the villagers have blue or green eyes

The problem is that so far, Congress thinks it is business as usual.

IT IS NOT

And sometime in the future, they will see Congress' big black eyes and think "Oh yeah, the Celts were HERE, too".

[blam]

Anthropologists looking for Roman legion in China

[SunkenCiv]

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[wardaddy]

as usual cracker marauders out destroying that beautiful pure and noble minority bloodline by force

man I hate white folks...the devil they are

/s

[SMARTY]

During the Roman empire, before and after... the typical routine with defeated enemies was to enslave the women, children and able-bodied males.

Whole populations were removed hundreds and thousands of mile from their birthplace.

If you read Gibbon, it is amazing how often this took place. Extremely remote and numerous groups were moved around on a scale and with a frequency that is difficult to imagine, yet is was customary.

Don't forget, slaves represented wealth and hardly any defeated populations were left in place or in tact. And of course, DNA moved around with them.

One author said that slavery became SO necessary because in the ancient world, there was not enough gold available for the valuation of commodities... slaves were currency.

[N. Theknow]

Heard of a Roman nose.

Now there's a Roman Chin?

[Doulos1]

I just finished “The History of the Ancient World” by
Bauer. It was great. The two thousand years that she covers
is the tale of tribes attacking, killing, and taking
prisoners of other tribes. Fantastic reading. I recommend
it highly. Thanks for your ping.
In God we trust.