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Just Spoke W/ Very Senior Ret. USAF Officer. Says USAF, NORAD, Etc. Have "No Clue" About Missile.
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Posted on 11/09/2010 2:03:14 PM PST by MindBender26

Just spoke with old friend, very senior retired USAF general officer/pilot. Says his contacts, many of whom were his "boys," have no idea what Pacific missile is/was

As I was calling him, he was calling me to run my old network traps to see if anyone at the network desks in NY or DC have any idea what this was!

Data from video seems to be that it was large, ballistic, (not cruise) sub-launched. Course seemed to be trans-polar, so could have impacted in Arctic, Russian Far East, China, etc.

Current guesses... and these are wild guesses (some from the O Club at his lunch)

1: Crazy Russian or Chinese sub captain. No explosion because they didn't want one, or captain did not have correct codes for the PAL.

2: Islamic.......... ????? Demonstration?????

3: Hoax... but that seems way to far fetched.

Navy is also supposedly bat sh*t over this because there was no acoustic detection of sub!

NORAD scratching head ????

There may be an explanation, but no one knows what it was... or is!


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KEYWORDS: as225; californiamissile; chat; contrail; missilemystery; mysteryflight; mysteryjet; mysterymissile; mysterymissle; unsourced; unverifiable; vanity
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To: az_gila; Gondring

I’ve been mulling and pondering all aspects of this all day long, and I think the contrail idea fails in this regard:

IF this had been a regular contrail, the aircraft would have had to be heading TOWARD the camera (within a few degrees of straight on) in order for it to be leaving a trail that appeared to be nearly vertical below the plane. In that case, the aircraft would appear to grow larger, and speed up as it became more nearly overhead.

As you watch the video, however, just the opposite is the case. Although the plume is below the object, which would be consistent for the contrail of an aircraft moving almost directly toward the camera position, the object producing the plume appears to grow smaller as the video goes along, and seems to slow down, which is consistent with an object moving AWAY from the camera position; NOT toward it.

An aircraft moving more or less directly AWAY from the camera position would have left a contrail that appeared to be nearly vertical, but would have been ABOVE the plane; NOT below it.

ONLY an ascending object moving AWAY from the camera could simultaneously appear to be at the top of a nearly vertical plume, appear to be growing smaller, and seem to be slowing down.


281 posted on 11/09/2010 11:53:23 PM PST by HKMk23 (Politics ain't hard! You want worse; vote Democrat. You want better; vote Conservative.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March
Speaking of loud noises. About 12:30 PM Sunday I heard what sounded like jet engines in distress getting closer and closer. I live about 7,600 ft. on the east side of the Continental Divide so commercial aircraft never fly low enough to hear except very faintly on the quietest days.

This was loud enough to wake me and was followed by a heavy wind. But the wind was not near as heavy as it can get and the jet engine sound was not like any wind I've heard in the twenty six years I have lived here. As I listened I was really expecting to hear a crash but didn't.

Weirdness. I heard that meteor a couple of years ago that hit Wyoming. Apparently a lot of people did. Or was that a satellite? I don't recall but a lot of people saw and heard it and no one denied what it was.

282 posted on 11/09/2010 11:54:23 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: Danae

Have you ever seen that site? He slammed Globaloney Warming quite a while ago. I can sort of understand science when I read there.

That’s saying a lot!


283 posted on 11/09/2010 11:59:45 PM PST by little jeremiah
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To: HKMk23
That is exactly what I've tried to say previously but perhaps not as well as you have. Also I have pointed out that the contrail would continue on overhead and pass to the east which certainly would have been noticed and reported by now.

As for changing atmospheric conditions causing a cessation of the contrail before it got to the coast there was a big weather system moving in from the west whose eastern edge was in CO last night. So the same upper level conditions would have existed from out in the Pacific to the Rocky Mountains.

284 posted on 11/10/2010 12:01:40 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Thanks, AWM. Did I leave you out of my ping? It was just names I saw on the other threads. Wattsupwiththat’s consensus is definitely missile.

I just hope it was ours.


285 posted on 11/10/2010 12:03:25 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: TigersEye

Well, I’m not scared. Honestly. [Dramatic yawn.] Going back to bed. Honestly.


286 posted on 11/10/2010 12:04:24 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Our 2010 victory was won the Tea Party Way, not the RINO way.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I’ll admit I’m alert.

I’ve been reading a LOT about China lately. I read at a forum that has a long dedicated thread about China. Makes me alert.


287 posted on 11/10/2010 12:06:16 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Liberty Valance; TigersEye

If you look at that closely, you can tell what looks like a missile is actually a commercial airliner above water and fifty miles away, and underwater optics just make it look like it’s coming from inside the sub.

The sub is actually the U. S. S. Missouri returning from Lebanon back in the 80s.

This should put everyone’s questions to rest.

Nothing happening here. Move along...

/s ;^)


288 posted on 11/10/2010 12:09:44 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Your next chance like this? About 2044. Vote popularity and don't waste time with the details.)
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To: MindBender26
Navy is also supposedly bat sh*t over this because there was no acoustic detection of sub!

That's because it is a grey whale migration path don't you know.

289 posted on 11/10/2010 12:10:05 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Schwarzenkaiser, fashionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

I’m rather worried to tell you, that sounds operational. ;^)


290 posted on 11/10/2010 12:10:58 AM PST by DoughtyOne (Your next chance like this? About 2044. Vote popularity and don't waste time with the details.)
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To: mojito

They are trying to push it off as a Jetliner. Their operatives are up with stills of contrails.


291 posted on 11/10/2010 12:15:03 AM PST by screaminsunshine (Americanism vs Communism)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

Oh, I wasn’t even trying to scare you, Arthur. I know that’s not possible. ;^)


292 posted on 11/10/2010 12:28:39 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: DoughtyOne

The CO2 bubbles coming from the baking soda kind of obscure the view too. ;^)


293 posted on 11/10/2010 12:36:39 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: HKMk23

Why no other witness reports of a rocket launch?


294 posted on 11/10/2010 12:45:19 AM PST by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed.)
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To: MindBender26
I think it was a display put on by the Chinese to show the Americans just how close they can come to our shores. What worries me even more is that there are few people that this even ruffled their feathers. I don't call what the military was ordered to tell the American public by the Obama regime. This may be just the start of things to come.
295 posted on 11/10/2010 12:57:37 AM PST by Nitehawk0325 (I have the right to remain silent, but I lack the ability...........)
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To: little jeremiah

I’m still sleeping. I’m not scared.


296 posted on 11/10/2010 1:37:10 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Our 2010 victory was won the Tea Party Way, not the RINO way.)
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To: TigersEye

“Oh, I wasn’t even trying to scare you, Arthur. I know that’s not possible.”

No it’s not possible, which is why I’m asleep right now.


297 posted on 11/10/2010 1:38:23 AM PST by Arthur Wildfire! March (Our 2010 victory was won the Tea Party Way, not the RINO way.)
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To: Arthur Wildfire! March

The only way to post! :-)


298 posted on 11/10/2010 1:39:55 AM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: r9etb

Meh..you’re going about it all wrong. Nothing bad or mysterious happens on this planet that can’t be blamed on 1) illegals, 2) moose limbs, or 3) chicoms...since the first 2 can easily be ruled out, it HAS to be the Chinese! /s


299 posted on 11/10/2010 2:32:47 AM PST by Citizen of the Savage Nation
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To: MindBender26

Airplane contrails.


300 posted on 11/10/2010 4:13:43 AM PST by saganite (What happens to taglines? Is there a termination date?)
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