Posted on 09/22/2010 7:55:54 AM PDT by Michael Zak
On this day in 1862, President Abraham Lincoln (R-IL) issued the Emancipation Proclamation. Effective at yearend, all slaves in Confederate-controlled territory would be "forever free."
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If I am following your argument correctly, you are right.
Free people expect to be treated with a modicum of respect, respect for conscience and for individual choice/will.
If people need to trick and manipulate you, then they really don’t respect you and don’t deserve your respect.
The Declaration is a secession document as I recall, and Washington a rebel.
“But let’s be frank — as far as real conservatives are concerned you Johnny Rebs are all Johnny-come-latelies here.”
This GOP trash with the alligator mouth wouldn’t recognize a Conservative as he was kicking his jaybird ass.
“But let’s be frank — as far as real conservatives are concerned you Johnny Rebs are all Johnny-come-latelies here.”
What a surprise. You don’t know a Grand Old Potty Hack like Little Mike Zak and his buddy Steele from a real Conservative. You all are a hundred and fifty years late and a dollar short, Junior. Take your heads out of your historical, hysterical asses and look around. Johnny Rebs. You Provincial Putz.
Well, Gollllllllllllllleeeeeeeeee. Looookie here what I found in the Grand Old Potty Health Care fix;
“Ensure Access For Patients With Pre-Existing Conditions:Health care should be accessible for all, regardless of pre-existing conditions or past illnesses. We will expand state high-risk pools, reinsurance programs and reduce the cost of coverage. We will make it illegal for an insurance company to deny coverage to someone with prior coverage on the basis of a pre-existing condition, eliminate annual and lifetime spending caps, and prevent insurers from dropping your coverage just because you get sick.” - The new GOP plan, telling business how to run in a supposedly GOP-embraced free market. More Horse shit.
Now don’t that beat all, you Yankee geniuses?
More GOP horseshit.
Try voting for a Conservative. I know that means you will have to learn to identify one, but try. Your mushy little brains will be able to figure it out eventually; if you keep putting these morons in charge, you’ll be a GOP socialist instead of a Dem socialist. But your precious GOP will be better Socialists!
This is basically advocating Obamacare. If insurers can’t say who they insure, then it’s not insurance, it’s welfare. If you’re guaranteed insurance AFTER you get sick, it’s not insurance. If your state doesn’t have rights, YOU don’t have rights. Ask the people in Arizona.
I REPEAT: when your state doesn’t have rights YOU don’t have rights.
Get it?
We knew that a long time ago. You idiots still haven’t quite figgered that out, though, have ya?
Vote for Conservatives, not more GOP hacks, you dimwits.
Remember this old saying from Hahvahd Yahd; “when you lie down with GOP dogs, you get up with GOP fleas.”
Hint for you; The conservatives are the ones that are likely to tell GOP hacks like these fairies to shove it and
Conservatives see and smell you hacks a mile away.
Go back and read through Zak's posts on this and other threads and get back with me.
Maybe some Southerners ought to consider identifying more with with the rugged son of the frontier than with the pampered, under worked class of pretentious "aristocrats" who stupidly and selfishly led their part of the world to ruin.
Ease up on that Kool-Aid, boy.
Well, that's mighty white of you, bro.......
Speaking for my self, I vote Republican because of people like Tom Coburn, not Michael Steele. If your pal "Zak" succeeds in liberalizing your "grand party" like it was during Lincoln - I'll be writing in Daffy Duck.
Furthermore... claiming Lincoln was "conservative" is no different than claiming, Lenin was Jeffersonian.
While it may be true, Southerners learned a strong distaste for your candidates after that sour milk your hero served up. It is today, as it should be. Lincoln's radical party was chugged full of progressives, and Marxist revolutionaries - Much like Obama's is today. :)
HUGE CONFEDERATE BATTLE FLAG GOING UP ON I-75 IN GEORGIA
(ATLANTA - 21 September 2010) In conjunction with the launch of events to commemorate the Sesquicentennial of the War Between the States, the Georgia Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans will be erecting a 100' flagpole with a Confederate battle flag on Saturday, September 25, 2010 at I-75 Exit 71, just north of Tifton.
The flag raising is part of the ongoing Flags Over Georgia project of the Sons of Confederate Veterans here in the state and is designed to increase awareness of the significant role that Georgia played during the War. Due to the current political climate in America, there is more interest today than any other time in the last hundred years regarding our Confederate heritage as people attempt to understand the South's stand against an out-of-control federal government.
Earlier this year, the Florida Division of the Sons of Confederate Veterans received national attention when they, too, raised a large Confederate battle flag alongside a major expressway in their state.
Georgia Division Commander, Jack Bridwell, had this to say about this Saturday's flag raising, "This beautiful Flag signals the start of our celebration of the Sesquicentennial of the War for Southern Independence. We will continue to highlight times, sites, and people over the next 4 years; hopefully the public will join us in this celebration. "
The Sons of Confederate Veterans are also preparing to launch a statewide radio and television campaign with commercials which will educate the public about Georgia's Confederate heritage and role during the War in commemoration of the 150th Anniversary of the War Between the States.
Interviews or more information about the Sons of Confederate Veterans or the flag raising may be obtained by contacting the Georgia Division at 1-888-SCVinGA or online at www.GeorgiaSCV.com.
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“Due to the current political climate in America, there is more interest today than any other time in the last hundred years regarding our Confederate heritage as people attempt to understand the South’s stand against an out-of-control federal government.”
Mike Zak and his merry band of master baiters don’t seem to be getting it, so far .... they still think the Grand Old Potty is gonna be their salvation.
Of course they are!
What do you think the old term "Solid South" referred to?
They all thought the same, all voted together, all voted the same way -- and how did they vote?
Until the 1960s they mostly voted for Democrat Progressives, for Liberals, for Big Government and redistribution of wealth.
Whose wealth?
Why those evil, nasty, wicked Northern Republicans, of course.
And why shouldn't they make the Union pay, and pay, and pay...?
southernsunshine: "You see, it isn't YOUR party."
I'd say the GOP belongs to those who love it and support it the most.
And how, exactly, could that include folks who can't get over the Civil War, hate the Union and everything associated with it, especially that wicked Republican Party?
southernsunshine: "I often speak to individuals whose political opinions a strictly conservative, both socially and fiscally, but they refuse to vote for any Republican. When I inquire as to why they vote against Republicans their answer is a variation of, "Republicans, phooey! Nothing but a bunch of elitist snobs." "
Surely they are talking about their own neighbors, people they've lived beside for years, and somehow they can't get along?
So whose fault is that?
Do they imagine their Republican neighbors wouldn't welcome their support and aid?
But maybe their real problem is, they want to start out at the top, do you think?
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You are way too kind. I don't really need it, but sure do appreciate. ;-)
If I were half a scholar, I could explain the difference between the Progressivisms of Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson and Franklin Roosevelt.
Let's see, how about a Progressive scale of one to ten, where Teddy was a two, Wilson a five, Franklin a seven, and then BHO would measure what... oh, maybe 25?
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"GOP trash" ?
"alligator mouth" ?
"kicking his jaybird ass" ?
Is that what passes for serious argument where you come from?
Sorry Zak, had to fix it.
Well they are the same except one of them lead the Federal govt in a fascist invasion of a sovereign Southern nation and killed 600000 in the process. Other than that, they are identical.
You must think I'm someone else. I've said nothing about Michael Steele -- for or against.
Idabilly: "If your pal "Zak" succeeds in liberalizing your "grand party" like it was during Lincoln - I'll be writing in Daffy Duck."
"Daffy" is certainly the correct word to describe your sentence here. It makes no sense whatever.
Idabilly: "Furthermore... claiming Lincoln was "conservative" is no different than claiming, Lenin was Jeffersonian."
Modern usages of "liberal" and "conservative" had no meaning in 1850s era politics.
For example, Lincoln was best known for his anti-slavery arguments, but no one called him a "liberal" or "conservative" because of it -- those words weren't used.
Now if you wish to claim, after the fact, that Lincoln's anti-slavery arguments made him some kind of "liberal," then remember the debate until 1860 was about whether Federal Government power should be used to enforce slavery in territories and states where it did not then exist?
Lincoln said "no," Federal power should not be used to expand slavery. How does that make him a big-government liberal? How does it make the South small government conservatives?
But a key argument I've made here is that each of our previous administrations and Federal governments were smaller than the ones which came after it.
Thus, for example, Lincoln's Federal government was less than 10% the size of today's, even allowing for differences in the nation's population.
Even Franklin Roosevelt's government, while vastly larger than Lincoln's was still much smaller than today's.
And remember, Liberal Progressive Democrat Roosevelt got 80% to 90% of the Deep South's vote.
So don't try to tell us the South has always been rock-solid conservative. It's not true.
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