Posted on 08/22/2010 6:12:51 PM PDT by RobinMasters
Obama can end the "birthers" controversy in one single day by releasing the original documents, but for some inexplicable reason he refuses, and the love-struck media never ask him why...
Trust but verify.
-- Ronald Reagan
It's good practice to take a person at his word until someone shows you proof he is lying.
Barack Obama says he was born in Hawaii, and since no one has shown any proof he was born in Kenya or elsewhere, it's OK to conclude he was born in Hawaii.
Sure his grammar school records show that he was enrolled as an Indonesian Muslim, but some people will say anything to get their kid in the right school. It doesn't really answer the question.
It's OK though for others not to use my deferential standard and continue to question whether Obama was born in Hawaii. We aren't talking about a 12-year-old qualifying to play Little League here. There is a Constitutional mandate that the President be a natural-born citizen, and if Obama is not one, he certainly will have committed the biggest fraud since the White Sox threw the World Series.
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
Coulter also repeated her claim that Barack Obama's failure to prove his constitutional eligibility for office, raised by WND and of concern, according to recent polls, by at least 58 percent of the American people, are nothing more than a big joke.
"He's pushing the birther thing," she said of Farah. "No one who is conservative believes in it either, someone who wants to get hits for his website may promote it."
About the debate between Farah and Ann, I would say like Gene Eric : "It’s great this pathetic exchange is taking place just a few months before a critical election. This would be a good time for both of them to STFU".
But in the Birth Certificate issue, Ann is definitely wrong and this editorial piece published last year at FOX News suggests the complete opposite of what Ann is trying to tell us.
You don't have to be a Fruitcake (as many stated in the last post) to say that Obama is hiding something. No need of conspiration here or whatever you call it. I don't believe in conspirations anyway.
As De Seno said : "We aren't talking about a 12-year-old qualifying to play Little League here."
Can anyone explain (to us) why it is smarter for Obama to spend tens of thousands of dollars and man-hours defending the suits when he can win the lawsuit for free by showing the original documents ?
All this issue about BC reminds me what Woodstein (Woodward & Bernstein) said about the Watergate in "All the President's Men" (Page 7):
"A federal grand jury investigation had already announced, but even so it was Simon's opinion that there still were too many unknown factors bout the break-in to make it the lead story. "It could be crazy Cubans", he said.
Indeed, the thought that the break-in might somehow be the work of the Republicans seemed implausible. On June 17, 1972, less than a month before the Democratic Convention, the President stood ahead of all announced Democratic candidates in the polls by no less than 19 points. Richard Nixon's vision of an emerging Republican majority that would dominate the last quarter of the century, much as the Democrats had dominated two previous generations, appeared possible. The Democratic Party was in desarray as a brutal primary season approached its end. Senator George McGovern of South Dakota, considered to be Nixon's weakest opponent, was emerging as the clear favorite to win the Democrat's nomination for President".
And yes, for many people the fact that Obama is not eligible seems implausible too. And in the same way, for The Watergate Scandal, Kissinger, Spiro Agnew or Gerald Ford (the highest rank of the Gov) were not implicated in the Nixon lies. No conspiration here.
So, if in the next future (the sooner the better), we will find out what's going wrong in his records (don't forget the tape sealed by the LA Times as well), it will not the Democratic Party's fault (although, we can blame them for not checking his records). It will only the Obama's fault.
Besides, (Isn't it strange ?) all these Conspirationists people who are obsessed by a 9/11/ Satanic Jewish conspiracy and crazy stuffs like that don't believe for one second in the Birth Certificate issue.
What if he refuses to produce a long form US COLB for all to examine, because he does not have one and has never had one because his idiot mother never got one? What if Hussein doesn’t even know for sure the day or year of his birth, or the place either? No wonder he’s so angry at the world!
Seems like if he had one, he’d just show it. Of course unless the one he may possess has very damaging details on it, and not just a foreign birth either, might be something else.
He’ll serve his fake term as fake prez.
It hurts many of us like hell to go through it, but he’ll serve the term.
I live for the day his many lies are exposed and I hope he serves time in the federal pen for his crimes.
I got on board the birther train early on but have never believed the man would be removed from office because of it. I’m of the mind that we need to get, strengthen, and enforce the laws requiring verification in the states.
It wouldn’t take but a couple of states that wouldn’t allow someone on the ballot to take them out of the race.
To me, Obama is only a symptom of a flaw in our system. Even if we got rid of him, the flaw would still exist. (Think Chet Aurthur)
He’s hiding a lot more than just his birth certificate.
What he’s hiding may not be what we think he’s hiding. But that he’s hiding something is not in doubt.
Others are worried about the BC. I want to know what citizenship he claimed in college. And what passport he traveled on when he went to Pakistan. But he’s got that information embargoed too.
Oh, and the guy who died after getting into the passport files? Isn’t anyone curious about that? Anyone?
“Conspirationists”?
That’s just strangling the language.
Conspirationist people who are obsessed by a 9/11 Satanic Jewish Conspiracy and crazy stuffs like that don’t believe for one second in the Birth Certificate Issue.
Because these people are simply obsessed with just the 9/11 terror attacks, and finding some Ultimate Evil. Conspiracy Theories borderline on religion for the people who believe in them, and they pursue what is far out (9/11 truth) versus what can be easily proven by a show of a document (Birth Certificate). You can sort of say they have faith in their conspiracy theories. Disturbing but true.
Look, at the end of the day, as my many British friends say, Obama’s birth place, his religion mean zilch, zero, nothing!!! What means something is that POTRUS Obama is doing his utmost to destroy America with the help of the Democrat Party. He and his hateful, biased, elitist wife, Michelle hate and detest America and “ALL” Americans!!! You good folks out there in voting land better cut out the banter back and forth and....get your butts out to the voting booth on November 2, 2010. What to do? Vote to destroy every single Democrat running for any office. Why? To completely destroy the Democrat Party!!! And....soon after that happens, work to topple POTUS Barack Hussein Obama from office, either by forcing his resignation, impeachment or political defeat at the voting booth!!! Stop the bickering over the small stuff and concentrate on saving our country from these Democrat America haters!!! “REMEMBER NOVEMBER!!!”
“Oh, and the guy who died after getting into the passport files? Isn’t anyone curious about that? Anyone?”
What about it? I’ve heard nothing on that topic.
I can only believe that Ann Coulter is speaking from a position of extreme ignorance here. She'd be surprised to learn how many people who own her books, also believe that Obama is ineligible to hold the office of president.
Only someone who is totally out of touch with the heartbeat of conservative opinion would say what she did. And, by engaging in a hissy fit in public with Joseph Farrah, she has proven it. She clearly believes that his is some off-beat, fringe website that hardly anyone reads.
I'm afraid that she's blown her credibility with Tea Party conservatives over this.
This article is over a year old...why bring it back?
How much money has he spent hiding this ?
In our system a person is required to be a natural born citizen in order to hold the office of president, and I think such should be ensured. However, just as the police officer generally has to accept the license as proof that the birth certificate was already seen and accepted, the electorate has to accept that, once sworn in, the relevant bona fides were seen and accepted by whatever authority is responsible. It may have been screwed up for all I know, but I am afraid none of us, including unfortunately people in the military, have any standing to argue that we need to see proof of birth from President Obama.
Our chance for demanding more was during the election, and thanks to a lack of any press, we missed that. And it was worse things, IMHO, than the birth certificate. Why was nobody demanding that the man who was actively campaigning as the "smart" guy provide a record of his grades and work in university? I couldn't get a job in the White House right now if I refused to release my school information, and yet he is able to be the President without anyone ever seeing anything he did in university. That a candidate for the highest office in the land was able to simply refuse to allow anyone at all to see anything he did in school, and never faced a single objection or question from anyone in the press bothers me more than anything.
It was incumbent on the media to ask tough questions of the candidates, and to demand, on the behalf of the voters, an accounting of the past records relevant to a candidates ability to carry out the duties of his office. How a candidate performed in school, and what he wrote while there, is absolutely relevant to an election and we were denied that, as well as any evidence of citizenship. What we need more than anything is a real press.
“Conspirationists”?That’s just strangling the language.
Does that make them "stranglerationists"?
How about a real candidate who will ask questions the MSM won’t?
You’re so right. I couldn’t agree with yoi more. Obama is a BIG symptom of a flaw in our system.
Lt. Quarles Harris Jr
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/apr/19/key-witness-in-passport-fraud-case-fatally-shot/
Stimulus 2 wouldn't be able to be undone, because the crooks have already fled with the goods. But at least there wouldn't be Stimulus 3 and 4 and 5.
And you don't need to remind this crowd to vote. Good Lord. I cannot freaking wait until that day.
Because there’s not much else to work with?
Yes, excellent point. That would achieve the same goal if there were a candidate in a position, i.e. without something of his own to hide, who had the courage to demand such a thing. I wonder about the likelihood of getting anyone like that?
He may be responsible for it, but he’s also loving it. Birthers are seen as crackpots to 90% of the population (don’t confuse the # of birthers with the number of people who aren’t sure where he’s born).
Birthers only help his standing with the American people in general.
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