Skip to comments.Vanity: Let's have a rational discussion on Ron Paul and the Liberty Movement
Posted on 08/16/2010 12:09:43 AM PDT by citizenredstater9271
I want to have a sane discussion on Ron Paul and the growing Liberty Movement. Every time I or other freepers bring up we get people telling us Dr. Paul is crazy or we are crazy to support him and other constitutionalist politicians.
When I posted a video on the success of the Free State Movement in New Hampshire ppl responded with "your crazy" and hinting the movement had failed. How could ppl say the movement failed when they've had numerous successes?
I see liberals and commies such as this weirdo mock us which I would expect but why the outpouring of hate from the right?
I can't predict the future but I have a feeling the future of the GOP is in traditional conservative values and bringing back the Constitution and individual freedom. The original tea party belonged to the Ron Paul Republicans and Constitutionalists. Dr. Paul was raising money via moneybombs before the first tea party rally took place. Why are other conservatives reluctant to take note of this?
Dr. Paul's campaign was a true grassroots movement lead by ppl who want their liberty back from the gov. and who want to restore the Free Market. The Free State Movement is lead by ppl who want to restore the Free Market and end all the gov. control and marxism-lite. These movements are lead by true Americans and true conservatives.
When Bush was in office he was getting a bad name by a lot of conservatives who felt he wasnt doing enough to protect liberty and the free market. Now when movements and politicians seeking to do the very thing come along they are shunned by the mainstream GOP. Why?
Constitutionalism and the truly Free Market are where the conservative movement is headed. Let's take advantage of this while its still young. What say other Freepers?
Ron Paul? Gag me with a spoon! What is the draw to this loon?
He wants to bring back the Constitution and the Free Market. Did you read my original post?
Too bad his foreign policy dovetails with Cynthia McKinney’s, Code Pink’s, International ANSWER’s and Cindy Sheehan’s, huh?
What does that have to do w/ the Constitution or capitalism? I don’t support his foreign policy but that doesnt mean I need to reject him all together. The future of the GOP is the Constitutionalist and Liberty Movement.
People here are aware of Ron Paul. Whether they’re right or not is another question. Many here would like Ron Paul a lot more except for his foreign policy. Personally, I like him.
If you don’t get defense right, you’re out of the game.
I said I don’t support his foreign policy. I believe we need to finish the job in Afghanistan and Iraq. If u really did read my post youd see I’m only talking about economics and civil liberties. Foreign policy and the wars have nothing to do w/ anything I’m discussing here. Don’t change the subject.
I’m the same way. I have to keep explaining to ppl I HATE his foreign policy but I LOVE his emphasis on the Constitution and ending gov. control of the Free Market and ending the FED that took away the Free Market for good.
You’re also wrong with your timeline about tea parties.
People here like the tea parties, like constitutional government, like limited government. They don’t think that Ron Paul deserves 100% of the credit for those ideas. And they don’t like the foreign policy ideas.
Ron Paul is not the only one talking about limited government, but he is the only one with a foreign policy outside the conservative mainstream. To people here, he’s more notable for his foreign policy than his limited constitutional government message.
How will we afford the wars and defense with his fiscal policy though? I like a lot of his ideas but he is to extreme if we are serious about financing the war on terror.
Ron Paul is a milder Michael Savage. Both get a good idea once in awhile but when you look at the whole package, you walk away shaking you head.
I’m not changing the subject, N()()B. Even if Congressman Ron Paul is 100% correct on every domestic issue, his views on foreign policy, the military, Israel & the Arabs and the war on terror make him a crank with no place in national politics. Clear enough for you?
I don’t hate his foreign policy. But I know that Ron Paul is a tough sell here. Because people here like Palin, DeMint, Bachmann. They don’t have the track record on limited government that Ron Paul does, but they don’t have his foreign policy either.
Who else in Washington has talked about restoring the truly free market by ending the FED and going back to gold and silver (the only true money said the Founding Fathers)? Who else has defined their entire political policy by the Constitution and what the Founders originally intended for America? Dr. Paul is the only logical choice. I hate his foreign policy too but there are bigger issues at stake. We are witnessing America turn into the USSR. Taxes are going up. Illegals are pouring into America at an alarming rate and so are muslims. Dr. Paul is also for sealing up the border so think about that. Americans have lost their sense of pride in America. They want to see ppl like themselves in the white house not a closeted muslim marxist. They want the Constitution brought back to life and truly free market Capitalism brought back to life. Tell me who else will give them that?
While I’m not enamored by his foreign policy views - I do like him domestically. My overall view is that he’s an honest politician which is a rarity.
Paul is right about many things, but his foreign policy stands are so wrong that I cannot back him. They are dangerous for this nation.
We can afford them by moving all gov. programs back to the states so the federal gov. will have more money and by sealing up the border (he’s for ending birthright citizenship and deporting all illegals.)
If Dr. Paul becomes president there would still be many pro-Israel, pro-continuing the War on Terror in the House and the Senate. Dr. Paul wouldn’t be a king. Elect Dr. Paul for pres. then elect ppl into Congress who support our troops and Israel.
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