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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I said I don’t support his foreign policy. I believe we need to finish the job in Afghanistan and Iraq. If u really did read my post youd see I’m only talking about economics and civil liberties. Foreign policy and the wars have nothing to do w/ anything I’m discussing here. Don’t change the subject.


9 posted on 08/16/2010 12:26:32 AM PDT by citizenredstater9271
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To: citizenredstater9271

You’re also wrong with your timeline about tea parties.

People here like the tea parties, like constitutional government, like limited government. They don’t think that Ron Paul deserves 100% of the credit for those ideas. And they don’t like the foreign policy ideas.

Ron Paul is not the only one talking about limited government, but he is the only one with a foreign policy outside the conservative mainstream. To people here, he’s more notable for his foreign policy than his limited constitutional government message.


11 posted on 08/16/2010 12:31:34 AM PDT by truthfreedom
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To: citizenredstater9271

I’m not changing the subject, N()()B. Even if Congressman Ron Paul is 100% correct on every domestic issue, his views on foreign policy, the military, Israel & the Arabs and the war on terror make him a crank with no place in national politics. Clear enough for you?


14 posted on 08/16/2010 12:32:11 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I don't need a newspaper to know the world's been shaved by a drunken barber.)
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To: citizenredstater9271
"I said I don’t support his foreign policy."

The man is wrong on the first principle of conservatism. Keep the country safe.

Therefore, it would be best to steer efforts on principles you agree with and abandon the man.

yitbos

24 posted on 08/16/2010 12:46:07 AM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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To: citizenredstater9271

What does this even mean? How do you “finish the job” in these nations? I’ve asked many people this and never gotten a straight answer. What if there’s never a stable democracy in either of these nations? How long should US Forces stay there? As time goes on, it appears that there isn’t any “finishing the job.”

In Iraq, the goal was to take out Hussein. That was accomplished.

In Afghanistan, the goal was to take out the Taliban and track down Al-Qaeda. For the most part, that has been accomplished.

The worst thing is that as a nation we are depending on an ally in Pakistan that has been actively sabotaging us at every turn and aiding insurgents in every single manner possible.

Iran and others will never allow for a stabilized democracy in Iraq and Pakistan will never stop meddling with affairs in Afghanistan and providing shelter for militants within their borders.

Unless you propose that the US start a war with the entire Middle East, the best we can do is finish training up their military and hope for at least a couple years of stability before stuff starts going crazy again.


52 posted on 08/16/2010 7:18:32 AM PDT by MaritS
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