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BREAKING: New paper makes a hockey sticky wicket of Mann et al 98/99/08 (RE:Global Warming Hoax )
Watts Up With That? ^ | August 14, 2010 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 08/15/2010 11:10:08 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

NOTE: this will be the top post at WUWT for a couple of days, see below for new stories – Anthony

Sticky Wicket – phrase, meaning: “A difficult situation”.

Oh, my. There is a new and important study on temperature proxy reconstructions (McShane and Wyner 2010) submitted into the Annals of Applied Statistics and is listed to be published in the next issue. According to Steve McIntyre, this is one of the “top statistical journals”. This paper is a direct and serious rebuttal to the proxy reconstructions of Mann. It seems watertight on the surface, because instead of trying to attack the proxy data quality issues, they assumed the proxy data was accurate for their purpose, then created a bayesian backcast method. Then, using the proxy data, they demonstrate it fails to reproduce the sharp 20th century uptick.

Now, there’s a new look to the familiar “hockey stick”.

Before:

Multiproxy reconstruction of Northern Hemisphere surface temperature variations over the past millennium (blue), along with 50-year average (black), a measure of the statistical uncertainty associated with the reconstruction (gray), and instrumental surface temperature data for the last 150 years (red), based on the work by Mann et al. (1999). This figure has sometimes been referred to as the hockey stick. Source: IPCC (2001).

After:

FIG 16. Backcast from Bayesian Model of Section 5. CRU Northern Hemisphere annual mean land temperature is given by the thin black line and a smoothed version is given by the thick black line. The forecast is given by the thin red line and a smoothed version is given by the thick red line. The model is fit on 1850-1998 AD and backcasts 998-1849 AD. The cyan region indicates uncertainty due to t, the green region indicates uncertainty due to β, and the gray region indicates total uncertainty.

Not only are the results stunning, but the paper is highly readable, written in a sensible style that most laymen can absorb, even if they don’t understand some of the finer points of bayesian and loess filters, or principal components. Not only that, this paper is a confirmation of McIntyre and McKitrick’s work, with a strong nod to Wegman. I highly recommend reading this and distributing this story widely.

Here’s the submitted paper:


A Statistical Analysis of Multiple Temperature Proxies: Are Reconstructions of Surface Temperatures Over the Last 1000 Years Reliable?

(PDF, 2.5 MB. Backup download available here: McShane and Wyner 2010 )

It states in its abstract:

We find that the proxies do not predict temperature significantly better than random series generated independently of temperature. Furthermore, various model specifications that perform similarly at predicting temperature produce extremely different historical backcasts. Finally, the proxies seem unable to forecast the high levels of and sharp run-up in temperature in the 1990s either in-sample or from contiguous holdout blocks, thus casting doubt on their ability to predict such phenomena if in fact they occurred several hundred years ago.

Here are some excerpts from the paper (emphasis in paragraphs mine):

This one shows that M&M hit the mark, because it is independent validation:

In other words, our model performs better when using highly autocorrelated
noise rather than proxies to ”predict” temperature. The real proxies are less predictive than our ”fake” data. While the Lasso generated reconstructions using the proxies are highly statistically significant compared to simple null models, they do not achieve statistical significance against sophisticated null models.

We are not the first to observe this effect. It was shown, in McIntyre
and McKitrick (2005a,c), that random sequences with complex local dependence
structures can predict temperatures. Their approach has been
roundly dismissed in the climate science literature:

To generate ”random” noise series, MM05c apply the full autoregressive structure of the real world proxy series. In this way, they in fact train their stochastic engine with significant (if not dominant) low frequency climate signal rather than purely non-climatic noise and its persistence. [Emphasis in original]
Ammann and Wahl (2007)

On the power of the proxy data to actually detect climate change:

This is disturbing: if a model cannot predict the occurrence of a sharp run-up in an out-of-sample block which is contiguous with the insample training set, then it seems highly unlikely that it has power to detect such levels or run-ups in the more distant past. It is even more discouraging when one recalls Figure 15: the model cannot capture the sharp run-up even in-sample. In sum, these results suggest that the ninety-three sequences that comprise the 1,000 year old proxy record simply lack power to detect a sharp increase in temperature. See Footnote 12

Footnote 12:

On the other hand, perhaps our model is unable to detect the high level of and sharp run-up in recent temperatures because anthropogenic factors have, for example, caused a regime change in the relation between temperatures and proxies. While this is certainly a consistent line of reasoning, it is also fraught with peril for, once one admits the possibility of regime changes in the instrumental period, it raises the question of whether such changes exist elsewhere over the past 1,000 years. Furthermore, it implies that up to half of the already short instrumental record is corrupted by anthropogenic factors, thus undermining paleoclimatology as a statistical enterprise.

FIG 15. In-sample Backcast from Bayesian Model of Section 5. CRU Northern Hemisphere annual mean land temperature is given by the thin black line and a smoothed version is given by the thick black line. The forecast is given by the thin red line and a smoothed version is given by the thick red line. The model is fit on 1850-1998 AD.

We plot the in-sample portion of this backcast (1850-1998 AD) in Figure 15. Not surprisingly, the model tracks CRU reasonably well because it is in-sample. However, despite the fact that the backcast is both in-sample and initialized with the high true temperatures from 1999 AD and 2000 AD, it still cannot capture either the high level of or the sharp run-up in temperatures of the 1990s. It is substantially biased low. That the model cannot capture run-up even in-sample does not portend well for its ability
to capture similar levels and run-ups if they exist out-of-sample.

Conclusion.

Research on multi-proxy temperature reconstructions of the earth’s temperature is now entering its second decade. While the literature is large, there has been very little collaboration with universitylevel, professional statisticians (Wegman et al., 2006; Wegman, 2006). Our paper is an effort to apply some modern statistical methods to these problems. While our results agree with the climate scientists findings in some

respects, our methods of estimating model uncertainty and accuracy are in sharp disagreement.

On the one hand, we conclude unequivocally that the evidence for a ”long-handled” hockey stick (where the shaft of the hockey stick extends to the year 1000 AD) is lacking in the data. The fundamental problem is that there is a limited amount of proxy data which dates back to 1000 AD; what is available is weakly predictive of global annual temperature. Our backcasting methods, which track quite closely the methods applied most recently in Mann (2008) to the same data, are unable to catch the sharp run up in temperatures recorded in the 1990s, even in-sample.

As can be seen in Figure 15, our estimate of the run up in temperature in the 1990s has
a much smaller slope than the actual temperature series. Furthermore, the lower frame of Figure 18 clearly reveals that the proxy model is not at all able to track the high gradient segment. Consequently, the long flat handle of the hockey stick is best understood to be a feature of regression and less a reflection of our knowledge of the truth. Nevertheless, the temperatures of the last few decades have been relatively warm compared to many of the thousand year temperature curves sampled from the posterior distribution of our model.

Our main contribution is our efforts to seriously grapple with the uncertainty involved in paleoclimatological reconstructions. Regression of high dimensional time series is always a complex problem with many traps. In our case, the particular challenges include (i) a short sequence of training data, (ii) more predictors than observations, (iii) a very weak signal, and (iv) response and predictor variables which are both strongly autocorrelated.

The final point is particularly troublesome: since the data is not easily modeled by a simple autoregressive process it follows that the number of truly independent observations (i.e., the effective sample size) may be just too small for accurate reconstruction.

Climate scientists have greatly underestimated the uncertainty of proxy based reconstructions and hence have been overconfident in their models. We have shown that time dependence in the temperature series is sufficiently strong to permit complex sequences of random numbers to forecast out-of-sample reasonably well fairly frequently (see, for example, Figure 9). Furthermore, even proxy based models with approximately the same amount of reconstructive skill (Figures 11,12, and 13), produce strikingly dissimilar historical backcasts: some of these look like hockey sticks but most do not (Figure 14).

Natural climate variability is not well understood and is probably quite large. It is not clear that the proxies currently used to predict temperature are even predictive of it at the scale of several decades let alone over many centuries. Nonetheless, paleoclimatoligical reconstructions constitute only one source of evidence in the AGW debate. Our work stands entirely on the shoulders of those environmental scientists who labored untold years to assemble the vast network of natural proxies. Although we assume the reliability of their data for our purposes here, there still remains a considerable number of outstanding questions that can only be answered with a free and open inquiry and a great deal of replication.

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Commenters on WUWT report that Tamino and Romm are deleting comments even mentioning this paper on their blog comment forum. Their refusal to even acknowledge it tells you it has squarely hit the target, and the fat lady has sung – loudly.

(h/t to WUWT reader “thechuckr”)


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This to me seems to be a statement to FOCUS on:

The real proxies are less predictive than our ”fake” data.


1 posted on 08/15/2010 11:10:13 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hee hee! And Mann will prolly still stand behind his stupid hockey stick! Lol!


2 posted on 08/15/2010 11:18:16 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And I may be mistaken, but they are still ignoring the heat island affect and changing environment around many of our surface temperature reading stations. Or how many in colder climates have gone off line.


3 posted on 08/15/2010 11:22:11 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: steelyourfaith; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; SunkenCiv; Paul Pierett; neverdem; I got the rope; ...
Major pingaling!
4 posted on 08/15/2010 11:25:38 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
WHAT?!

Man-made global warming is a HOAX?!

Bu, bu, but it's HOT today!

Oh,.... it's summer and liberals lie..nevermind!

5 posted on 08/15/2010 11:28:34 AM PDT by PROCON (Independence Day + 42, Let's see how long it lasts!)
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To: DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
And there is this thread...in regard to the models:

Re: predictions of Global Warming....The models are wrong (but only by 400%)

6 posted on 08/15/2010 11:31:48 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; markomalley; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; Nipfan; rdl6989; Tunehead54; Clive; ...
Excellent ! Thanx Ernest_at_the_Beach !

 


Beam me to Planet Gore !

7 posted on 08/15/2010 11:38:40 AM PDT by steelyourfaith ("Release the Second Chakra !!!!!!!" ... Al Gore, 10/24/06)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I was looking at the temperature predictors in my yard, Oak, Birch, Elm, and Maple. The leaves are turning on the Birch and Elm, getting lighter on the rest. Going to be a cold one.


8 posted on 08/15/2010 11:45:51 AM PDT by Little Bill (`-)
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To: All
Remember the “Hide the Decline”...Youtube production from the Group...”Minnesotans for Global Warming”

Going thru the comments...found this:

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Aldi says:

August 14, 2010 at 6:43 pm

“Our backcasting methods, which track quite closely the methods applied most recently in Mann (2008) to the same data, are unable to catch the sharp run up in temperatures recorded in the 1990s, even in-sample.”

Hide the decline? The recorded data has been *massaged*, most climate scientists are riding the gravy train(engaged in fraud).

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Now comparing the first graph ....of Mann...notice that the LEFT hand side is somewhat level.....

Now look at the second Graph...and the LEFT hand side starts at a much higher level...and declines to the right before the uptick....

9 posted on 08/15/2010 11:53:16 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
When fake data is better than the real stuff there's a strong suggestion there that the REAL is, itself, FAKE!

The statisticians probably worked long and hard on that one ~ two minutes anyway ~ and snorted.

10 posted on 08/15/2010 11:56:54 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: All
From the Comments at WUWT:

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Jason says:

August 14, 2010 at 6:48 pm

Nick said:

“But they give a backcast anyway?”

They give a backcast which shows that the temperature a thousand years ago could have been much warmer or much cooler than the present day. This is perfectly consistent with their deep reservations about the predictive ability of the proxy data.

Its worth noting that their Bayesian reconstruction calculates an 80% probability that the most recent decade is the warmest in the past 1000 years. That is not exactly a complete repudiation of the hockey stick. Then again, they didn’t even try to address the data quality issues in Mann ’08. Thir reconstruction includes the tree rings and Tiljander.

I would be interested to see what happens when that data is removed.


11 posted on 08/15/2010 12:09:38 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: muawiyah
From the comments:

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Matt Hardy says:

August 14, 2010 at 6:55 pm

“Furthermore, it implies that up to half of the already short instrumental record is corrupted by anthropogenic factors, thus undermining paleoclimatology as a statistical enterprise.”

OUCH!

12 posted on 08/15/2010 12:11:37 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: All
More from the comments:

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Wind Rider says:

August 14, 2010 at 7:03 pm

Best line of the excerpts, it bears repeating.

Climate scientists have greatly underestimated the uncertainty of proxy based reconstructions and hence have been overconfident in their models.

i.e. they’ve done it wrong, and then oversold it.

Bravo.

13 posted on 08/15/2010 12:14:14 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Uh oh! “ a bayesian backcast method.”????
I’m clueless! Can someone explain?


14 posted on 08/15/2010 12:15:41 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The consensus of scientists who make money on global warming all agree that global warming is real. The debate is over. Move along now. There is nothing to see.


15 posted on 08/15/2010 12:17:51 PM PDT by kennedy (I am a Kennedy. Where do I go to claim my Senate seat?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Hide the Decline YouTube video

Hide the Decline II - The Sequel

16 posted on 08/15/2010 12:24:23 PM PDT by CedarDave (Ten-year anniversary - proudly Freeping since Aug 17, 2000)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

That one was really slick ~ someone will have to ‘splain that one to Dr. Mann ~ s l o w l y !


17 posted on 08/15/2010 12:36:53 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Recalling the "tree rings" when the researchers went back to the "uplands" to gather more recent samples they found that the local climate had so deteriorated that ALL the trees had died and been washed to the bottom of "the hill" (actually a mountain several thousand feet in elevation).

This forced them to select new samples from trees living at the bottom of "the hill" (a totally different micro climate).

Mann and company presented these tree rings as coming from the same place ~

The "historic chain of custody technique" applied to the Bayesian "backcast" reconstruction demonstrates the tree ring samples were NOT from the same place.

18 posted on 08/15/2010 12:44:56 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra
I was trying to understand that...found some references that might indicated a direction....First backcasting as oppisite to forecasting....and then...from Wikipedia...:

Bayesian inference

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Bayesian inference is statistical inference in which evidence or observations are used to update or to newly infer the probability that a hypothesis may be true. The name "Bayesian" comes from the use of Bayes' theorem in the updating process. Bayes' theorem was introduced by Reverend Thomas Bayes.[1]

19 posted on 08/15/2010 12:47:42 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: muawiyah

Thanks,...another revelation.


20 posted on 08/15/2010 12:53:43 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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