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This to me seems to be a statement to FOCUS on:

The real proxies are less predictive than our ”fake” data.


1 posted on 08/15/2010 11:10:13 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Hee hee! And Mann will prolly still stand behind his stupid hockey stick! Lol!


2 posted on 08/15/2010 11:18:16 AM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And I may be mistaken, but they are still ignoring the heat island affect and changing environment around many of our surface temperature reading stations. Or how many in colder climates have gone off line.


3 posted on 08/15/2010 11:22:11 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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4 posted on 08/15/2010 11:25:38 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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Remember the “Hide the Decline”...Youtube production from the Group...”Minnesotans for Global Warming”

Going thru the comments...found this:

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Aldi says:

August 14, 2010 at 6:43 pm

“Our backcasting methods, which track quite closely the methods applied most recently in Mann (2008) to the same data, are unable to catch the sharp run up in temperatures recorded in the 1990s, even in-sample.”

Hide the decline? The recorded data has been *massaged*, most climate scientists are riding the gravy train(engaged in fraud).

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Now comparing the first graph ....of Mann...notice that the LEFT hand side is somewhat level.....

Now look at the second Graph...and the LEFT hand side starts at a much higher level...and declines to the right before the uptick....

9 posted on 08/15/2010 11:53:16 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
When fake data is better than the real stuff there's a strong suggestion there that the REAL is, itself, FAKE!

The statisticians probably worked long and hard on that one ~ two minutes anyway ~ and snorted.

10 posted on 08/15/2010 11:56:54 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Uh oh! “ a bayesian backcast method.”????
I’m clueless! Can someone explain?


14 posted on 08/15/2010 12:15:41 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The consensus of scientists who make money on global warming all agree that global warming is real. The debate is over. Move along now. There is nothing to see.


15 posted on 08/15/2010 12:17:51 PM PDT by kennedy (I am a Kennedy. Where do I go to claim my Senate seat?)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

and the RATS, take another one in the..............................HA ha!!!

30 posted on 08/15/2010 1:51:12 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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And in regards to actual Global Warming....also found this at WUWT...FR Thread:

Monckton: Why current trends are not alarming ( RE:Global Warming)

36 posted on 08/15/2010 3:54:37 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This morning when I read it at WUWT there was only 85 comments. Now there is over 335.


38 posted on 08/15/2010 4:00:41 PM PDT by steveab (When was the last time someone tried to sell you a CO2 induced climate control system for your home?)
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Hockey stick FAIL!


41 posted on 08/16/2010 7:35:44 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I read this over the weekend. Good stuff. We have all known about this for some time, but we finally have “professionals” investigating the stats.


42 posted on 08/16/2010 8:50:41 AM PDT by I got the rope
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43 posted on 08/16/2010 7:37:10 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Michelle Obama: the woman who ended "Diners, Drive-ins and Dives.")
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Very interesting, I think it might still dismay some here to see that this model still shows a warming trend, just not the hockey stick from before.


53 posted on 08/17/2010 5:16:47 PM PDT by Paradox (Socialism - trickle up poverty.)
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