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Microsoft dubs Windows Phone 7 'Ad serving machine'
The Register (British Tech) ^ | 27 June 2010 | Rik Myslewski

Posted on 07/08/2010 9:12:29 PM PDT by dayglored

Microsoft is positioning its upcoming Windows Phone 7 smartphone OS, planned for release this October, as an "ad-serving machine."

That's how Microsoft exec Kostas Mallios described the OS...

Microsoft's smartphone OS will provide advertisers with three levels of ad-serving "opportunities" in addition to standard browser-based ads, and in a radical departure from the tacks taken by either Apple's app-based iAds, or Google's browser-centric world, two of Windows Phone 7's ad-delivery systems will enable ads to be sent outside of either apps or the browser.

The first level of ad-serving is app-based. No surprise there... The next two ad-serving schemes, however, break new ground — although some may argue that it's ground that might better be left un-tilled.

One is based on Windows Phone 7's concept of "tiles",... "That tile," Mallios told his crowd, "is actually a dynamic tile that you're now able to push information to as an advertiser, and stay in touch with your customer. It's a dynamic relationship that's created. It provides for an ongoing dialogue with a consumer."

"We have a third concept called 'toast'," Mallios said... Toast allows advertisers to push ads onto your Windows Phone 7 smartphone whether you have an associated app running or not. The advertiser sends your phone an ad, your phone receives and displays it, you view it, and presumably you tap 'n' buy whatever the advertiser is promoting.

Mallios adds: "A customer can opt out of all of this, or they can opt in — it depends on how creative we are in gathering their attention and wanting to keep them engaged."

(Excerpt) Read more at theregister.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: advertising; microsoft; phone7; windows
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Of course, it's no secret that smartphones are viewed by advertisers as the perfect medium for braying their unwanted, intrusive, annoying claptrap in the faces of people who are looking to make a phone-call, play a game, or watch a video.

Television has been doing that for 60 years. Nothing particularly new.

But what do you say we stop pretending that these mobile advertising platforms are "phones" at all?

I think Microsoft is correct, and should be applauded for coming out and saying what Apple and Google have been reluctant to admit -- that their fancy high-tech products are simply another fancy way to sell soap.

An "AD SERVING MACHINE". Yep, that's what it is.

1 posted on 07/08/2010 9:12:30 PM PDT by dayglored
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To: ShadowAce; Swordmaker; PugetSoundSoldier
Tech ping, Apple ping (indirectly, perhaps), and I'd be interested in Puget's take on this.

BTW, this article is a week old, but I didn't see it posted previously, and it's still relevant, I think.

2 posted on 07/08/2010 9:14:07 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

So why should I PAY for a phone when they are going to make all this money from me? MSFT has enough cash ... they should just give the phones away for free.


3 posted on 07/08/2010 9:14:27 PM PDT by ikka
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To: dayglored

Well..at least they were honest about it.


4 posted on 07/08/2010 9:14:52 PM PDT by max americana
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To: dayglored
> But what do you say we stop pretending that these mobile advertising platforms are "phones" at all?... fancy high-tech products are simply another fancy way to sell soap.

Yes, of course, that was intended to be intentionally provocative. Of course I know smartphones do all sorts of useful things.

Point is, what the hell are the ads doing there??? They're going to take over....

5 posted on 07/08/2010 9:16:32 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: max americana
> Well..at least they were honest about it.

Frankly, it was a breath of fresh air. Shockingly so. :)

6 posted on 07/08/2010 9:18:49 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored
"...stay in touch with your customer. It's a dynamic relationship that's created. It provides for an ongoing dialogue with a consumer."

People who speak this way should be beaten with sticks until they stop.

7 posted on 07/08/2010 9:19:49 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: ikka

... So why should I PAY ...

Because MS developed the technology, MS is marketing the technology, and MS is BIG.

Unless a competitor markets a phone more to your liking, that’s what you are stuck with if you want to use their technology.
It’s a buy/no buy choice on your part, being one of the millions of buyers who can register market pressure.


8 posted on 07/08/2010 9:20:08 PM PDT by J Edgar
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To: Psycho_Bunny
> People who speak this way should be beaten with sticks until they stop.

ROFLOL! Yes, exactly!!

9 posted on 07/08/2010 9:20:52 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Microsoft’s marketing regularly displays a depth of failure which is next to impossible to fathom.


10 posted on 07/08/2010 9:30:01 PM PDT by Goldsborough
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To: J Edgar
> It’s a buy/no buy choice on your part, being one of the millions of buyers who can register market pressure.

Very well put.

The only thing that can put a stop to an ever-increasing deluge of annoying advertisements will be customer rejection of the phones the ads are delivered on.

11 posted on 07/08/2010 9:33:02 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: Goldsborough
> Microsoft’s marketing regularly displays a depth of failure which is next to impossible to fathom.

How so? They're exactly accurate here, I think.

Granted, they have the world's record for lousy marketing. But in this case, I suspect they know what they're doing...

12 posted on 07/08/2010 9:34:35 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

You’re exactly right. MS has just come out and said exactly what everyone else is actually doing; Google and Apple are looking at their phones as ad streams, but have been very coy about it claiming the real reason. MS just states it.

MS is hated/feared, so they can be blunt and honest, don’t have to tip-toe around the truth.

At least it can be turned off!


13 posted on 07/08/2010 9:34:44 PM PDT by PugetSoundSoldier (Indignation over the Sting of Truth is the defense of the indefensible)
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To: dayglored

I have a negative gut reaction to this.


14 posted on 07/08/2010 9:51:08 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Palin/Undecided 2012...make that Palin/Whoever She Picks...)
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To: PugetSoundSoldier
Hi Puget, thanks for your rapid response. Glad we agree on the real motive here. Seems pretty self-evident, and I look forward to Apple and Google owning up to it eventually. Ain't holding my breath, though.

> MS is hated/feared, so they can be blunt and honest, don’t have to tip-toe around the truth.

Well, in this instance that's certainly true, and I grant that it's true in general.

Then again, one suspects that they are never going to own up to their role in the never-ending zombie psycho-drama called "SCO" :)

15 posted on 07/08/2010 9:57:17 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

A phone that serves up a steady stream of telespam. Then they can sell you apps that filter the ads.


16 posted on 07/08/2010 9:58:53 PM PDT by eggman (Grab a mop Mr. Gibbs! Your boss is making another mess.)
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To: dayglored; PugetSoundSoldier
> Then again, one suspects that they are never going to own up to their role in the never-ending zombie psycho-drama called "SCO" :)

No that wasn't intended as a thread hijack, just a snarky comment on the fly... :)

17 posted on 07/08/2010 9:59:21 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: eggman
> A phone that serves up a steady stream of telespam. Then they can sell you apps that filter the ads.

"SPAM! SPAM! SPAM! SPAM! SPAM! SPAM! SPAM! SPAM! SPAM! SPAM! ..."

"But I don't LIKE SPAM!!!"

"Aww, dear, don't make a fuss... just buy this little app and it'll send all your spam into the spam-bucket!"

18 posted on 07/08/2010 10:02:14 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: ExGeeEye
> I have a negative gut reaction to this.

You and me both.

I have one of those bumper stickers that says "KILL YOUR TELEVISION". Does this mean I have to get one that says:

"KILL YOUR SMARTPHONE"

...too??

19 posted on 07/08/2010 10:04:28 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

Wait.... did MircoSoft just say that #3 is basically a POP UP AD on your Phone?

WHO?

WHO in there right mind would EVER want that?

Oh please MicroSoft, I loved all the pop ups on IE in the 90s... can you make it all blinky and flashy too like a cheap GIF that gives me seizures?

Sometimes... I am just shocked.... SHOCKED that this company is still in business... more money than brains!


20 posted on 07/08/2010 10:13:21 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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