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Of course, it's no secret that smartphones are viewed by advertisers as the perfect medium for braying their unwanted, intrusive, annoying claptrap in the faces of people who are looking to make a phone-call, play a game, or watch a video.

Television has been doing that for 60 years. Nothing particularly new.

But what do you say we stop pretending that these mobile advertising platforms are "phones" at all?

I think Microsoft is correct, and should be applauded for coming out and saying what Apple and Google have been reluctant to admit -- that their fancy high-tech products are simply another fancy way to sell soap.

An "AD SERVING MACHINE". Yep, that's what it is.

1 posted on 07/08/2010 9:12:30 PM PDT by dayglored
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To: ShadowAce; Swordmaker; PugetSoundSoldier
Tech ping, Apple ping (indirectly, perhaps), and I'd be interested in Puget's take on this.

BTW, this article is a week old, but I didn't see it posted previously, and it's still relevant, I think.

2 posted on 07/08/2010 9:14:07 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored

So why should I PAY for a phone when they are going to make all this money from me? MSFT has enough cash ... they should just give the phones away for free.


3 posted on 07/08/2010 9:14:27 PM PDT by ikka
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To: dayglored

Well..at least they were honest about it.


4 posted on 07/08/2010 9:14:52 PM PDT by max americana
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To: dayglored
> But what do you say we stop pretending that these mobile advertising platforms are "phones" at all?... fancy high-tech products are simply another fancy way to sell soap.

Yes, of course, that was intended to be intentionally provocative. Of course I know smartphones do all sorts of useful things.

Point is, what the hell are the ads doing there??? They're going to take over....

5 posted on 07/08/2010 9:16:32 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: dayglored
"...stay in touch with your customer. It's a dynamic relationship that's created. It provides for an ongoing dialogue with a consumer."

People who speak this way should be beaten with sticks until they stop.

7 posted on 07/08/2010 9:19:49 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Hail To The Fail-In-Chief)
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To: dayglored

I have a negative gut reaction to this.


14 posted on 07/08/2010 9:51:08 PM PDT by ExGeeEye (Palin/Undecided 2012...make that Palin/Whoever She Picks...)
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To: dayglored

A phone that serves up a steady stream of telespam. Then they can sell you apps that filter the ads.


16 posted on 07/08/2010 9:58:53 PM PDT by eggman (Grab a mop Mr. Gibbs! Your boss is making another mess.)
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To: dayglored

Wait.... did MircoSoft just say that #3 is basically a POP UP AD on your Phone?

WHO?

WHO in there right mind would EVER want that?

Oh please MicroSoft, I loved all the pop ups on IE in the 90s... can you make it all blinky and flashy too like a cheap GIF that gives me seizures?

Sometimes... I am just shocked.... SHOCKED that this company is still in business... more money than brains!


20 posted on 07/08/2010 10:13:21 PM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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To: dayglored
Of course, it's no secret that smartphones are viewed by advertisers as the perfect medium for braying their unwanted, intrusive, annoying claptrap in the faces of people who are looking to make a phone-call, play a game, or watch a video.

I don't understand. I've had a Blackberry for a few months. I've downloaded a number of apps. I surf the web regularity (mostly FR). I text. I make calls. I check sports scores. I check the weather. I navigate.

I don't remember seeing an ad, except maybe on a web page I visited, and I'm not even sure about seeing any there. Where does this ad thing fit in again, and why would anybody tolerate even one of them?

22 posted on 07/08/2010 10:29:29 PM PDT by Minn (Here is a realistic picture of the prophet: ----> ([: {()
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To: dayglored
I think Microsoft is correct, and should be applauded for coming out and saying what Apple and Google have been reluctant to admit -- that their fancy high-tech products are simply another fancy way to sell soap.

An "AD SERVING MACHINE". Yep, that's what it is.


Help me out here. I have had an iPhone from Edge and now 3GS. What advertising have I missed? In all fairness I think the advertisers must be discriminating against me since I have not received one damn one of those. Do you have link so I can complain?
26 posted on 07/08/2010 11:12:46 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: dayglored
I missed this... the last line of the article...

If Microsoft doesn't make it easy and transparent to opt out of 'toast', that word might well describe the fate of its upcoming "ad-serving machine."

THAT would be Irony.
29 posted on 07/09/2010 12:02:13 AM PDT by RachelFaith (2010 is going to be a 100 seat Tsunami - Unless the GOP Senate ruins it all...)
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To: dayglored

I finally left MS mobile after many years; they decided to rewrite the OS and leave my apps in the dust, so I returned the favor. It looks like I made the right decision.


31 posted on 07/09/2010 12:40:31 AM PDT by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked." BHO)
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33 posted on 07/09/2010 7:01:02 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: dayglored

Windows Mobile 6.0 and 6.5 have available %HOSTS% file managers and editors and hacks that block all sorts of network traffic.

I suspect I’ll continue using this strategy to block out the WinMobile 7 ad space too.


35 posted on 07/09/2010 7:13:44 AM PDT by JerseyHighlander
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To: dayglored
Television has been doing that for 60 years. Nothing particularly new.

One of the reasons I quit watching TV some years ago.

38 posted on 07/09/2010 11:22:52 AM PDT by sionnsar (IranAzadi|5yst3m 0wn3d-it's N0t Y0ur5:SONY|Remember Neda Agha-Soltan|TV--it's NOT news you can trust)
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To: dayglored

I just love people I’m paying serving me up as a lead to third parties. They may have to put a new wing on hell to accommodate all these guys.


41 posted on 07/09/2010 3:12:32 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: dayglored

I’ve worked in traditional direct marketing, and “opt in” for any number of good catalogs that sell products I like and want to buy. I visit their websites. This is all of my own volition.

I detest having my website viewing habits tracked, though. Ads presumably “targeted” on the basis of cookies accepted by my web browser do not impress or compel me to do anything other than delete the cookies.

Heck, I even remove the dealer logo from the back of my cars, lol. I’m a marketer, but some forms of marketing are just too presumptuous, too intrusive, or both.

“Personalization” such as this is going to get someone sued, and isn’t always the panacea that naive marketers believe it to be. Want to criticize Apple for refusing porn apps? Ha. Just let Microsoft start pushing ads to cellphones based upon porn viewing habits.

That’ll sure impress the boss ... or the wife, lol.


48 posted on 07/09/2010 6:30:40 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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