Posted on 06/25/2010 9:43:42 AM PDT by Polarik
Sometime between October 31, 2008, and July 27, 2009, the dates of Health Director Chiyome Fukino's two press releases, Hawaii amended Obama's birth record. A brand-new Certificate of Live Birth (not Certification of Live Birth) was issued to him.
The DOH Director decides what goes in or gets taken out of birth records. She went on record as saying that "President Obama posted a copy of his certificate on his campaign website" even though she has refused to authenticate it for the past two years. This created a conundrum that could only be resolved by changing Obama's birth records to match what is in that online copy - which is a stone-cold forgery, and Fukino knows it!
That forged COLB also has its origin within the DOH: watch the video to find out the shocking truth as to whose COLB was used for the forgery.
You'll also realize that you've been staring at a forgery this whole time and not realizing that the most obvious sign of it was right there under your noses.
Not only did Obama get a new birth certificate, the certificate itself was designed with him in mind as Rev. 10/08 - coincidentally, the date of Fukino's first press release (10/31/08). Hawaii ditched the old Certification of Live Birth and switched to a hybrid form called a Certificate of Live Birth - formerly the name of the long-form birth certificate.
Say, "Aloha" to Obama's new COLB (Certificate of Live Birth):
Click on the thumbnail for a full-size copy
Did you forget this video of Michelle Obama saying that Brack is a Kenyan?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx3-MGHFXkc
Rule number 1 - Birthers lie. Constantly.
Rule number 2 - See rule number 1.
Rule number 3 - Seee rules number 1 and 2.
He reflected on his trip at the back of a plane on Saturday, talking above the roar of the engines to the three print reporters who have been covering his trip.
Obama's next big international journey will be in 2007--he's looking at China, India and Indonesia, ``where ironically I actually have more of a childhood than I do in Kenya.''
... More of a childhood ? That implies he had some form of a childhood in Kenya. To have a childhood there, he had to have lived there. If he didn't have one, he would have said ( when referring to Indonesia ) something like :"Where I actually had a childhood as compared to Kenya ".
I realized I was slightly less than specific with this question, so let me clarify:
Has even a single credentialed forensic scientist reviewed your work and agreed with your findings and conclusions that the COLB is forged?
So before you say 'Sandra Lines,' remember that she 1) said she only reviewed your affidavit, 2) only specified agreement with you on one issue that's hardly controversial (i.e., Photoshop can alter images), and 3) did not agree with you that there is any actual evidence of forgery on the COLB.
You said, “More of a childhood ? That implies he had some form of a childhood in Kenya.”
So true. Good catch! Remember, too, that his stepgranny, upon recently receiving an honorary doctorate for her work with children, particularly ORPHANS, in Kenya, told reporters that even the President of the US “passed through” her hands. This implies that he was in Kenya as a child, since the context of the conversation was her work with children. She wouldn’t logically say he passed through her hands if he were an adult at the time, which is the timeframe when he supposedly first visited Kenya.
You know, James, your “evidence” would be more convincing if it weren’t in the form of an htm document from yet another supposed Obama Conspiracy debunking site. How about a link to the actual webpage from which they supposedly downloaded this West bio? Couldn’t somebody in the meantime have modified the text?
btw, why does the label say, “Rodney Thomas Weste” instead of “West”?
How about dueling biographies? Here’s one from the Pearl Harbor Survivors, presumably people who knew him well:
http://www.pearlharborstories.org/survivor.php5?name=Rodney+West%2C+M.D.&id=767&search=
“In December of l956, after delivering at least 5,000 babies - and other things, he retired from the practice of medicine.”
There CAN be a difference between retiring from the PRACTICE of medicine and retiring from being an administrator in a hospital or clinic. Or sitting on medical boards.
About “Catherine Dale West”, I notice that you don’t link to your source. How about an unbiased, authenticated source for that testimony, James?
Anybody want to guess where that information came from? The selfsame ObamaConspiracy (so-called birther debunking) BLOG. Catherine was a commenter there. You know, like the rest of us are commenters here.
So, James, I could log on to Free Republic under the pseudonym “Mrs. Rodney T. West” and SAY,
“My husband was retired from obstetrics in 1961. He didn’t deliver Barack H. Obama because he didn’t deliver any babies after 1956. He never had that conversation with Barbara Nelson because he was too ethical to gossip about any of his patients. His colleagues and family are offended and personally insulted that anyone would accuse him of such a breach of ethics for partisan political reasons, especially when he’s no longer alive to defend his reputation.”
Would you “believe” that testimony?
I do notice that there’s no authentication of the true identity of this Catherine OR any posting of HER so-called birth certificate to back up that claim. So it’s simply another comment on a blog by somebody who gives no evidence of being Dr. West’s grandniece.
But even if this is his grandniece, would it be surprising if his niece asked him to deliver her children, as a personal favor, even though he no longer ordinarily delivered babies, especially since he was at the time an ADMINISTRATOR at the STRAUB CLINIC, not at Kapiolani?
About the “former teacher”, she must be like Zelig. She shows up at two points in time in the messiah’s lifetime. First when she has a conversation with someone who’s allegedly gossiping (against medical ethics, I must add)about the birth of a child to a 18-year-old “patient” (who she doesn’t know at all) and somehow she remembers the names of the mother, father, and child, years later (but only after the other conversant is conveniently dead). Coincidentally, she also later becomes a teacher of that same miraculous child.
Another coincidence: Dr. West died in Feb. 2008, right around the same time that somebody who worked for someone, who himself worked for Obama and had also once worked for the CIA, was sanitizing BHO’s passport files, according to a person with knowledge of the State Dept. investigation into the breach, who spoke to a reporter.
So, was someone creating a “plausible” backstory, along with a COLB? You be the judge, REASONABLE, LOGICAL people.
If you want to know how Ms. Nelson backtracked on her “wholesome STORY”, read this:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=87233
You know, James, your evidence would be more convincing if it werent in the form of an htm document from yet another supposed Obama Conspiracy debunking site. How about a link to the actual webpage from which they supposedly downloaded this West bio? Couldnt somebody in the meantime have modified the text?
btw, why does the label say, Rodney Thomas Weste instead of West?
How about dueling biographies? Heres one from the Pearl Harbor Survivors, presumably people who knew him well:
http://www.pearlharborstories.org/survivor.php5?name=Rodney+West%2C+M.D.&id=767&search=
In December of l956, after delivering at least 5,000 babies - and other things, he retired from the practice of medicine.
There CAN be a difference between retiring from the PRACTICE of medicine and retiring from being an administrator in a hospital or clinic. Or sitting on medical boards.
About Catherine Dale West, I notice that you dont link to your source. How about an unbiased, authenticated source for that testimony, James?
Anybody want to guess where that information came from? The selfsame ObamaConspiracy (so-called birther debunking) BLOG. Catherine was a commenter there. You know, like the rest of us are commenters here.
So, James, I could log on to Free Republic under the pseudonym Mrs. Rodney T. West and SAY,
My husband was retired from obstetrics in 1961. He didnt deliver Barack H. Obama because he didnt deliver any babies after 1956. He never had that conversation with Barbara Nelson because he was too ethical to gossip about any of his patients. His colleagues and family are offended and personally insulted that anyone would accuse him of such a breach of ethics for partisan political reasons, especially when hes no longer alive to defend his reputation.
Would you believe that testimony?
I do notice that theres no authentication of the true identity of this Catherine OR any posting of HER so-called birth certificate to back up that claim. So its simply another comment on a blog by somebody who gives no evidence of being Dr. Wests grandniece.
But even if this is his grandniece, would it be surprising if his niece asked him to deliver her children, as a personal favor, even though he no longer ordinarily delivered babies, especially since he was at the time an ADMINISTRATOR at the STRAUB CLINIC, not at Kapiolani?
About the former teacher, she must be like Zelig. She shows up at two points in time in the messiahs lifetime. First when she has a conversation with someone whos allegedly gossiping (against medical ethics, I must add)about the birth of a child to a 18-year-old patient (who she doesnt know at all) and somehow she remembers the names of the mother, father, and child, years later (but only after the other conversant is conveniently dead). Coincidentally, she also later becomes a teacher of that same miraculous child.
Another coincidence: Dr. West died in Feb. 2008, right around the same time that somebody who worked for someone, who himself worked for Obama and had also once worked for the CIA, was sanitizing BHOs passport files, according to a person with knowledge of the State Dept. investigation into the breach, who spoke to a reporter.
So, was someone creating a plausible backstory, along with a COLB? You be the judge, REASONABLE, LOGICAL people.
If you want to know how Ms. Nelson backtracked on her wholesome STORY, read this:
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=87233
You asked what I believed, I told you what I believe. If you have different beliefs, that’s fine.
October 31, 2008 08-93
STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obamas official birth certificate. State law (Hawaii Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obamas original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawaii.
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”July 27, 2009
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf
Hawaii Gov. Lingle answers the birthers, who remain surprisinglyunconvinced
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/05/hawaii_gov_lingle_answers_the.html
Birth announcements for Barack Obama
Honolulu Sunday Advertiser August 13, 1961:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/obama-1961-birth-announcement-from-honolulu-advertiser0000.gif
Honolulu Star-Bulliten: August 14, 1961:
http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/ObamaBirthStarBulletin.jpg
Another example of using the word, forensic scientist, without understanding its meaning.
Your question is oh-so typical of the liberal duplicity and hypocricy. When I posted my first report, “Was Obama’s birth certificate manufactured?” on June 13, the libs then were also clamoring for my research to be peer-reviewed. Was Factcheck peer-reviewed? Was Politifact peer-reviewed? Was Hawaii peer-reviewed? Was Krawetz peer-reviewed (besides by me)?
No, of course not. Whatever they said, it was golden.
It’s funny how many libs tout Krawetz as an expert but have no idea as to what are his actual credentials and what he can and cannot do. They never bothered to read his website.
If they had, then they would have known that Krawetz has made some very good points that are applicable to using image analysis software:
Krawetz said that the software he uses can easily be fooled by sharp contrast areas, like black and white text, image artifacts, and heavily reduced and compressed JPG’s (which perfectly describes the Fight The Smears image).
In other words, the software is easily fooled by intentional artifacts, which is what is on the COLB scam image.
His buddy, Chris Hansen, also took a software approach to analyzing the FTS image using Principle Components Analysis (PCA, a statistical methodology) and failed to find anything. No surprise here given that the whole idea of making the FTS small and highly compressed was to confound image analysis.
Relying on software is also the reason they missed the most obvious sign of Photoshopping (besides the text) on both the “high-res” Kos and the “crap-res”: FTS, namely the “bleeding date stamp” on the front.
Getting back to your revised question, back in October 2008, I did an extensive search for anyone having done forgery analyses on images and photos who could peer-review my research.
But, wouldn’t you know it, some Einstein on one of the lib blogs attacking me, took my question, totally out of context, that I had asked the website owner who seemed to have done some image forgery analyses. The lib poster mocked me by saying, “Look, here’s Polarik asking for help on image analysis; and this is at the height of his research!”
My search was in vain, however, because, according to Krawetz, “digital forgery forensics” is a new field with very few people who are expert it. There is no accreditation for this field.
None of the people in that category I contacted had any experience in spotting document image forgeries without having the original with which to compare.
I also contacted the guy who basically invented the entire field of ditigal forgery forensics, Professor Hany Farid, and asked him if there were any programs that could identify a JPG image made from Photoshop layers, and he said there were none.
Now, in my post, “What do these things have in common?” I listed twenty image anomalies identified by a dozen members of the Hot Air blog on June 12, 2008, that were in reaction to seeing the Kos image. All of these anomalies are covered in my research.
John C. Sweeney, a professional photographer, of the Post & Email did a peer-review of my research and said it was right on target.
Both the scam image and the object in Factcheck’s photos are Photoshop composites and the only way to validate that theory is by recreating the images from scratch.
In the past two years, nobody else has done the level of research that I have and nobody else has even attempted to replicate the border, let alone the forged scam image and the forged document object.
Watch an example of what you called my “amateur-hour” analyses:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbpjYeZXaVs
That is a very interesting statement.
Libtards live in an alternate reality where they are totally incapable of independent, rational thinking. They are zombies, walking about in a trance-like state, endlessly repeating, verbatim, whatever Factcheck and Fukino have told them about Obama’s birth certificate.
More importantly, they voted for Chairman Obama and the vilest bunch of Congressional criminals in US history.
Oh, God bless you for permanently effing up America.
REALLY SCARY!
ROTFL!
Donnie! Uh...Donnie! Uh...Donnie! Uh...
Uh-huh. Maybe I just need to see it used in a sentence. Let's see...how 'bout this:
I should get in touch with that guy. I assume, of course, that that must be a different Polarik who did 'research' on Obama's COLB and had a go-in with Neal Krawetz, because that Polarik says he's a "forensics expert" whereas you've clearly stated "I never said I was a forensics anything."
Maybe that other Polarik is the one Berg repeatedly called a "forensic expert" in his case, too.
Its funny how many libs tout Krawetz as an expert but have no idea as to what are his actual credentials and what he can and cannot do. They never bothered to read his website.
Like this page on presentations Krawetz makes at technical conferences? The first section being "Image Analysis" with a talk entitled "A Picture's Worth: Digital Image Analysis and Photo Forensics."
None of the people in that category I contacted had any experience in spotting document image forgeries without having the original with which to compare.
I also contacted the guy who basically invented the entire field of ditigal forgery forensics, Professor Hany Farid, and asked him if there were any programs that could identify a JPG image made from Photoshop layers, and he said there were none.
Maybe what you need is someone who has the power to spot forgeries with their naked eyes. I mean, someone else, since you've already claimed to possess that power. So either you're overestimating your own abilities, or you have a rare and valuable ability that exceeds scientific scrutiny.
Now, in my post, What do these things have in common? I listed twenty image anomalies identified by a dozen members of the Hot Air blog on June 12, 2008, that were in reaction to seeing the Kos image. All of these anomalies are covered in my research.
"Pseudoscientists those pretending to do science (maybe even sincerely believing they are doing science) but who get the process profoundly wrong, use anomalies in a different way. They often engage it what we call anomaly hunting looking for apparent anomalies. They are not, however, looking for clues to a deeper understanding of reality. They are often hunting for anomalies in service to the overarching pseudoscientific process of reverse engineering scientific conclusions."
- Dr. Steven Novella, host of the excellent "The Skeptics' Guide to the Universe"
John C. Sweeney, a professional photographer, of the Post & Email did a peer-review of my research and said it was right on target.
So another avid (and possibly pseudonymous) Birther, writing for a website created to promote Birtherism, endorses your pro-Birther opinions. Impartiality in peer review was always overrated, anyway.
It's interesting that you describe Sweeney as a "professional photographer," since I don't see where he ever identifies himself as a professional photographer. Rondeau calls him the P&E "photography expert," but then again, WND called you an expert too. So are you inventing credentials for Sweeney too? Maybe you can give him the ones you keep trying to take away from Krawetz.
Watch an example of what you called my amateur-hour analyses: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbpjYeZXaVs
Look, even the pseudoscience community has quality standards. Get a good video camera, a cameraman, some editing equipment, and then you can put together a video as professional and persuasive as this expose of how the moon landing photos were faked. The video is ten minutes long, but it details all kinds of little supposed anomalies in the Apollo photos, just like the anomalies you claim to have found.
Of course, it's all pseudoscientific nonsense. But it's good-looking pseudoscientific nonsense, with at least a false veneer of real science. So with a little time and effort, you might be able to pull your research up to the level of moon hoaxers.
Two years ago, yes. Not now.
The state of Hawaii only produces the computerized version Certification of Live Birth since 2001, so if a long form were to be released, it would be a copy of Obamas original that the Obama administration would produce.
This isn't completely true. Law requires them to keep original docs on file. They could produce a photocopy.
On top of that, there is no additional information on a Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth that is relevant to eligibility to be president.
You don't know that. The additional info would prove Obama committed fraud and/or had amendments made that further invalidate his alleged COLB.
And you would accept a document released by Obama to be authentic?
Two years ago, yes. Not now.
The state of Hawaii only produces the computerized version Certification of Live Birth since 2001, so if a long form were to be released, it would be a copy of Obamas original that the Obama administration would produce.
This isn’t completely true. Law requires them to keep original docs on file. They could produce a photocopy.
On top of that, there is no additional information on a Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth that is relevant to eligibility to be president.
You don’t know that. The additional info would prove Obama committed fraud and/or had amendments made that further invalidate his alleged COLB.
STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
For Immediate Release: October 31, 2008
There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obamas official birth certificate. State law (Hawaii Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawaii, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawaii State Department of Health has Sen. Obamas original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawaii.
Its crazy, said Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health. I dont think anything is ever going to satisfy them.
Okubo, who said that she gets weekly questions from Obama Birthers that are more like threats, explained that the Certificate of Live Birth reproduced by Obamas campaign should have debunked the conspiracy theories. If you were born in Bali, for example, Okubo explained, you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate. But its become very clear that it doesnt matter what I say. The people who are questioning this bring up all these implausible scenarios. What if the physician lied? What if the state lied? Its just become an urban legend at this point.
No one has perjured themselves. Whether they've participated in fraudulent activity remains to be seen. We do know these people have told some lies (like Lingle and Fukino) and made incorrect and misleading statements, evidently to avoid revealing the truth about Obama.
If a long form certificate says delayed registration of birth or out of state birth that information MUST also appear on the short form Certification of Live Birth.
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Exactly so. This is exactly WHY they will not produce a new COLB from their database, certify it, and hand it directly to waiting reporters.
This is WHY they won’t even produce, contrary to their own laws, an informational, uncertified copy of the selfsame COLB.
This is WHY they won’t, contrary to their own laws, give a copy (certified or otherwise) to persons who are descended from a common ancestor of Obama’s.
This is exactly WHY they will not speak to the authenticity of that online document.
IF that COLB is completely accurate and IS authentic and WAS certified by the State Of Hawaii, then there is NO logical reason for not having a new one printed at the DoH and passed directly to reporters.
There’s no logical reason, if the COLB is authentic, that Obama’s attorneys did not present the underlying paper document to the judge, instead requesting the judge to instead take note, in a FOOTNOTE, that FactCheck BLOG placed this image on their website.
It has been proven that the paper document itself has not been presented to the media. It has only been posted as a digital, unprovenanced image on websites that were CAMPAIGN advertisements, sponsored by the candidate and/or the Democratic party, then picked up later by a partisan BLOG. See jbjd’s website for details.
FactCheck blog alleged months later that their “representatives” “spent time” with the COLB at some unnamed point in time.
This was done anonymously, because to date NOT ONE PERSON from that blog has come forward to avow that he or she SAW this document and will attest that it’s legitimate. Nor do they state when their representatives visited the COLB, other than to write “recently.”
The persons who WROTE the article on the blog about the visit to the COLB do not anywhere state that THEY are the “representatives” who saw the document.
There’s no privacy issue involved here—he supposedly already released this information to the public. Therefore, there’s no logical reason for him not to have the Hawaiian Dept. of Health go through that same procedure that they allegedly did in June 2007, only this time to do it under the eyes of reporters, without the resulting document passing through his campaign, a campaign website, Democratic operatives, or a partisan blog.
Exactly so. This is exactly WHY they will not produce a new COLB from their database, certify it, and hand it directly to waiting reporters.
This is WHY they wont even produce, contrary to their own laws, an informational, uncertified copy of the selfsame COLB.
This is WHY they wont, contrary to their own laws, give a copy (certified or otherwise) to persons who are descended from a common ancestor of Obamas.
This is exactly WHY they will not speak to the authenticity of that online document.
IF that COLB is completely accurate and IS authentic and WAS certified by the State Of Hawaii, then there is NO logical reason for not having a new one printed at the DoH and passed directly to reporters.
Theres no logical reason, if the COLB is authentic, that Obamas attorneys did not present the underlying paper document to the judge, instead requesting the judge to instead take note, in a FOOTNOTE, that FactCheck BLOG placed this image on their website.
It has been proven that the paper document itself has not been presented to the media. It has only been posted as a digital, unprovenanced image on websites that were CAMPAIGN advertisements, sponsored by the candidate and/or the Democratic party, then picked up later by a partisan BLOG. See jbjds website for details.
FactCheck blog alleged months later that their representatives spent time with the COLB at some unnamed point in time.
This was done anonymously, because to date NOT ONE PERSON from that blog has come forward to avow that he or she SAW this document and will attest that its legitimate. Nor do they state when their representatives visited the COLB, other than to write recently.
The persons who WROTE the article on the blog about the visit to the COLB do not anywhere state that THEY are the representatives who saw the document.
Theres no privacy issue involved herehe supposedly already released this information to the public. Therefore, theres no logical reason for him not to have the Hawaiian Dept. of Health go through that same procedure that they allegedly did in June 2007, only this time to do it under the eyes of reporters, without the resulting document passing through his campaign, a campaign website, Democratic operatives, or a partisan blog.
The way to get the original vital records for Barack Obama is via a subpoena. As you can see from point 9 of the statute, Obama’s vital records can be released to “a person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction.”
A subpoena would not involve Obama in the release and would allow for the original record to be viewed in a judicial proceeding such as before a Grand Jury.
You’re simply wrong, James. There is an uncertified COLB AND it should be made available, in accordance with Hawaiian law.
In addition, since the information supposedly has already been released by Obama in a campaign advertisement, and referenced by his lawyer in a court case footnote, then there’s no logical reason for him not to authorize the DoH to produce a new COLB, directly from their files, to be given directly to the media. Is there?
I’m talking about the COLB. Not the original documents, James. Why are you redirecting the conversation to the original documents, which of course would be made available to a court, under a subpoena? Obfuscation? Deliberate misdirection?
His own attorneys, in order to clear up the matter, could request any judge in the eligibility cases to subpoena the original documents. Couldn’t they? Or they could allow discovery instead of arguing that citizens of this country have no standing to question his eligibility.
Why won’t they, given that you and his campaign and his minions all claim that these documents would prove that he’s eligible to be POTUS?
Hmmm? Why won’t he have the documents produced? Why won’t he authorize the DoH to simply print out another COLB from their database?
Hmmmm?
What I said. That’s why.
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