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And you would accept a document released by Obama to be authentic?
Two years ago, yes. Not now.

The state of Hawaii only produces the computerized version Certification of Live Birth since 2001, so if a long form were to be released, it would be a copy of Obama’s original that the Obama administration would produce.

This isn’t completely true. Law requires them to keep original docs on file. They could produce a photocopy.

On top of that, there is no additional information on a Hawaii Certificate of Live Birth that is relevant to eligibility to be president.

You don’t know that. The additional info would prove Obama committed fraud and/or had amendments made that further invalidate his alleged COLB.

I certainly do have trouble believing that the Republican Governor of Hawaii, the Republican Attorney General of Hawaii and the Republican appointed Director of Health and Registrar of Vital Records would all perjure themselves and participate in a fraudulent activity to help a Democrat.

STATEMENT BY DR. CHIYOME FUKINO
For Immediate Release: October 31, 2008
“There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record.
“Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.
“No state official, including Governor Linda Lingle, has ever instructed that this vital record be handled in a manner different from any other vital record in the possession of the State of Hawai‘i.”

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”—July 27, 2009

You know, during the campaign of 2008, I was actually in the mainland campaigning for Sen. McCain. This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact. And yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue. And I think it’s, again, a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this. ... It’s been established. He was born here.—Governor of Hawaii Linda Lingle (R)

“Janice Okubo of the Hawaii Department of Health quoted by the Washington Independent on July 17, 2009: “Ironically, the ‘birther’ movement began in response to Obama’s own efforts to debunk rumors. One year ago this week, the presidential campaign of then-Sen. Barack Obama launched FightTheSmears.com, a web site designed to push back against false rumors about the first African-American presidential nominee. To push back against rumors that he was not born in Hawaii, the campaign reproduced a Certificate of Live Birth from the state’s Health Department. Instead of terminating the conspiracy theories, that inspired new theories — that the certificate had been forged or that even if it hadn’t been forged it was the sort of certificate that could be given to someone born outside of the United States. But the certificate is specific about Obama’s birth in Honolulu, down to the 7:24 p.m. time.

‘It’s crazy,’ said Janice Okubo, director of communications for the Hawaii Department of Health. ‘I don’t think anything is ever going to satisfy them.’”

Okubo, who said that she gets weekly questions from Obama ‘Birthers’ that are ‘more like threats,’ explained that the Certificate of Live Birth reproduced by Obama’s campaign should have debunked the conspiracy theories. ‘If you were born in Bali, for example,’ Okubo explained, ‘you could get a certificate from the state of Hawaii saying you were born in Bali. You could not get a certificate saying you were born in Honolulu. The state has to verify a fact like that for it to appear on the certificate. But it’s become very clear that it doesn’t matter what I say. The people who are questioning this bring up all these implausible scenarios. What if the physician lied? What if the state lied? It’s just become an urban legend at this point.’”

If a long form certificate says “delayed registration of birth” or “out of state birth” that information MUST also appear on the short form Certification of Live Birth.

A long form copy of Obama’s original, Certificate of Live Birth CAN be released without Obama’s permission to “a person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;” under Hawaii statutes. That means via a subpoena from a judge.

If a long form certificate says “delayed registration of birth” or “out of state birth” that information MUST also appear on the short form Certification of Live Birth.

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Exactly so. This is exactly WHY they will not produce a new COLB from their database, certify it, and hand it directly to waiting reporters.

This is WHY they won’t even produce, contrary to their own laws, an informational, uncertified copy of the selfsame COLB.

This is WHY they won’t, contrary to their own laws, give a copy (certified or otherwise) to persons who are descended from a common ancestor of Obama’s.

This is exactly WHY they will not speak to the authenticity of that online document.

IF that COLB is completely accurate and IS authentic and WAS certified by the State Of Hawaii, then there is NO logical reason for not having a new one printed at the DoH and passed directly to reporters.

There’s no logical reason, if the COLB is authentic, that Obama’s attorneys did not present the underlying paper document to the judge, instead requesting the judge to instead take note, in a FOOTNOTE, that FactCheck BLOG placed this image on their website.

It has been proven that the paper document itself has not been presented to the media. It has only been posted as a digital, unprovenanced image on websites that were CAMPAIGN advertisements, sponsored by the candidate and/or the Democratic party, then picked up later by a partisan BLOG. See jbjd’s website for details.

FactCheck blog alleged months later that their “representatives” “spent time” with the COLB at some unnamed point in time.

This was done anonymously, because to date NOT ONE PERSON from that blog has come forward to avow that he or she SAW this document and will attest that it’s legitimate. Nor do they state when their representatives visited the COLB, other than to write “recently.”

The persons who WROTE the article on the blog about the visit to the COLB do not anywhere state that THEY are the “representatives” who saw the document.

There’s no privacy issue involved here—he supposedly already released this information to the public. Therefore, there’s no logical reason for him not to have the Hawaiian Dept. of Health go through that same procedure that they allegedly did in June 2007, only this time to do it under the eyes of reporters, without the resulting document passing through his campaign, a campaign website, Democratic operatives, or a partisan blog.