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To: Greenperson

Exactly so. This is exactly WHY they will not produce a new COLB from their database, certify it, and hand it directly to waiting reporters.

This is WHY they won’t even produce, contrary to their own laws, an informational, uncertified copy of the selfsame COLB.

This is WHY they won’t, contrary to their own laws, give a copy (certified or otherwise) to persons who are descended from a common ancestor of Obama’s.

This is exactly WHY they will not speak to the authenticity of that online document.

IF that COLB is completely accurate and IS authentic and WAS certified by the State Of Hawaii, then there is NO logical reason for not having a new one printed at the DoH and passed directly to reporters.

There’s no logical reason, if the COLB is authentic, that Obama’s attorneys did not present the underlying paper document to the judge, instead requesting the judge to instead take note, in a FOOTNOTE, that FactCheck BLOG placed this image on their website.

It has been proven that the paper document itself has not been presented to the media. It has only been posted as a digital, unprovenanced image on websites that were CAMPAIGN advertisements, sponsored by the candidate and/or the Democratic party, then picked up later by a partisan BLOG. See jbjd’s website for details.

FactCheck blog alleged months later that their “representatives” “spent time” with the COLB at some unnamed point in time.

This was done anonymously, because to date NOT ONE PERSON from that blog has come forward to avow that he or she SAW this document and will attest that it’s legitimate. Nor do they state when their representatives visited the COLB, other than to write “recently.”

The persons who WROTE the article on the blog about the visit to the COLB do not anywhere state that THEY are the “representatives” who saw the document.

There’s no privacy issue involved here—he supposedly already released this information to the public. Therefore, there’s no logical reason for him not to have the Hawaiian Dept. of Health go through that same procedure that they allegedly did in June 2007, only this time to do it under the eyes of reporters, without the resulting document passing through his campaign, a campaign website, Democratic operatives, or a partisan blog.


There is no such thing as an “informational” COLB in Hawaii, their state laws don’t allow it.
Here’s the Hawaii Statute:
http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrs2006/Vol06_Ch0321-0344/HRS0338/HRS_0338-0018.HTM

The way to get the original vital records for Barack Obama is via a subpoena. As you can see from point 9 of the statute, Obama’s vital records can be released to “a person whose right to inspect or obtain a certified copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction.”
A subpoena would not involve Obama in the release and would allow for the original record to be viewed in a judicial proceeding such as before a Grand Jury.


599 posted on 07/02/2010 11:51:35 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777

You’re simply wrong, James. There is an uncertified COLB AND it should be made available, in accordance with Hawaiian law.

In addition, since the information supposedly has already been released by Obama in a campaign advertisement, and referenced by his lawyer in a court case footnote, then there’s no logical reason for him not to authorize the DoH to produce a new COLB, directly from their files, to be given directly to the media. Is there?

I’m talking about the COLB. Not the original documents, James. Why are you redirecting the conversation to the original documents, which of course would be made available to a court, under a subpoena? Obfuscation? Deliberate misdirection?

His own attorneys, in order to clear up the matter, could request any judge in the eligibility cases to subpoena the original documents. Couldn’t they? Or they could allow discovery instead of arguing that citizens of this country have no standing to question his eligibility.

Why won’t they, given that you and his campaign and his minions all claim that these documents would prove that he’s eligible to be POTUS?

Hmmm? Why won’t he have the documents produced? Why won’t he authorize the DoH to simply print out another COLB from their database?

Hmmmm?

What I said. That’s why.


600 posted on 07/02/2010 2:46:01 PM PDT by Greenperson
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