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**Obama Bombshell** Blue Hawaii: Health Department falsified Obama's birth records!
Youtube FRAUD IN THE USA: The greatest birth certificate fraud in history ^ | 06/25/2010 | Dr. Ron Polland

Posted on 06/25/2010 9:43:42 AM PDT by Polarik

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To: LorenC; rxsid; null and void; 2ndDivisionVet; LucyT

The people I cite on the HotAir blog know the difference between a bogus document image and a real one because they have actually printed and scanned real documents. They did not go looking for anomalies - they are there in plain sight to anyone who does not accept whatever Factcheck tells them.

Now, all you have to do is get a copy of Photoshop and follow along with my video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFAP6TUDgq8

That should not be hard for you to do. After all, you solved the mystery of Obama’s smoking head, right?

LOL!


602 posted on 07/02/2010 7:26:55 PM PDT by Polarik
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

There is a photo out there of Obama Sr. at a dock received by a “welcome committee”???


No, there’s not. The photo came from CBS.com. And here’s the caption:

“Obama’s father, Barack Obama Sr., center, is shown wearing floral leis on his graduation day at the University of Hawaii in the early 1960s.”

Graduation day. Not “welcome committee.”


Speculation:

If this is true, where is the wife and son of this man?

The grandfather is there but no one else from the Dunham side? Are they there and I can’t see them?

And BTW it does look like a boat arrival —— why would Granps Dunham be waiting at the dock?

I thought they met in Russian class?

What a hoot.

Russian class in 1960.

What does that tell you about Stanley and Barack ? Hmmmmmmm?


To: kaila

I was born in Hawaii 2 years before Obama. My birth certificate has the hospital listed, the OB-GYN signature, my parents occupation, last date my mother worked,type of occupation, home address, signature of my mother. The birthers may not be able to prove anything, but I feel this birth certificate is questionable.


Did everyone read this from page 1 ?

I think it puts the case very simply and very well. A real BC shows “the hospital listed, the OB-GYN signature, my parents occupation, last date my mother worked,type of occupation, home address, signature of my mother.”

Well, President Obama Show us yours-— on a piece of paper -—NOT an online scan WE ARE WAITING.


603 posted on 07/31/2010 7:46:23 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Buddygirl

This image has been deleted from Photobucket.


Why?


604 posted on 07/31/2010 7:47:42 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: jamese777

I still maintain that it would be relevant and interesting to see if the Obama COLB WAS used for any legal purpose relating to the 2008 presidential election and a grand jury investigation and subpoena power might just uncover that information.


Has the actual piece of paper been produced anywhere???

Seriously, I am politely asking, has anyone ever held it in his/her hands for ex a Republican politician or a well known newsman etc?

Anyone, once, ever?

Or is it always the scam -I mean scan, that is “referred to”.???


605 posted on 07/31/2010 7:54:48 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Greenperson

An excellent summary:

If a long form certificate says “delayed registration of birth” or “out of state birth” that information MUST also appear on the short form Certification of Live Birth.

***************

Exactly so. This is exactly WHY they will not produce a new COLB from their database, certify it, and hand it directly to waiting reporters.

This is WHY they won’t even produce, contrary to their own laws, an informational, uncertified copy of the selfsame COLB.

This is WHY they won’t, contrary to their own laws, give a copy (certified or otherwise) to persons who are descended from a common ancestor of Obama’s.

This is exactly WHY they will not speak to the authenticity of that online document.

IF that COLB is completely accurate and IS authentic and WAS certified by the State Of Hawaii, then there is NO logical reason for not having a new one printed at the DoH and passed directly to reporters.

There’s no logical reason, if the COLB is authentic, that Obama’s attorneys did not present the underlying paper document to the judge, instead requesting the judge to instead take note, in a FOOTNOTE, that FactCheck BLOG placed this image on their website.

It has been proven that the paper document itself has not been presented to the media. It has only been posted as a digital, unprovenanced image on websites that were CAMPAIGN advertisements, sponsored by the candidate and/or the Democratic party, then picked up later by a partisan BLOG. See jbjd’s website for details.

FactCheck blog alleged months later that their “representatives” “spent time” with the COLB at some unnamed point in time.

This was done anonymously, because to date NOT ONE PERSON from that blog has come forward to avow that he or she SAW this document and will attest that it’s legitimate. Nor do they state when their representatives visited the COLB, other than to write “recently.”

The persons who WROTE the article on the blog about the visit to the COLB do not anywhere state that THEY are the “representatives” who saw the document.

There’s no privacy issue involved here—he supposedly already released this information to the public. Therefore, there’s no logical reason for him not to have the Hawaiian Dept. of Health go through that same procedure that they allegedly did in June 2007, only this time to do it under the eyes of reporters, without the resulting document passing through his campaign, a campaign website, Democratic operatives, or a partisan blog.

598 posted on July 2, 2010 4:14:22 AM GMT+09:00 by Greenperson


Yes, why oh why won’t he just say OK here is the original piece of paper?

Libs and Obama lovers can go on and on forever making weird and weak excuses but it really just comes all down to this:

IF he really had the BC to produce he would authorize Hawaii to produce it

He already has released a scan.

So, just say Here it is. Pull it out of your back pocket Big O.

I would

Any normal person would.

Anyone in America, if they had one, would just say OK guys here it is, now let’s move on.

He won’t say it cuz he can’t.

He doesn’t have one, as Tim Adams said and millions of others have believed.

Think about it.

Years and years and years later we are still arguing about it.

Incredible and unbelievable.


606 posted on 07/31/2010 8:25:55 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

I don’t know. Maybe it would be better to ask Photobucket because when I clicked on that link, it told me that Photobucket had deleted the image.


607 posted on 07/31/2010 9:27:17 AM PDT by Buddygirl
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Has the actual piece of paper been produced anywhere???

Seriously, I am politely asking, has anyone ever held it in his/her hands for ex a Republican politician or a well known newsman etc?

Anyone, once, ever?

Or is it always the scam -I mean scan, that is “referred to”.???


The answer to your question is “no.” However that’s the same answer as every other president’s actual, original birth certificate. What we have always seen is copies. In the age of the internet what we see is scanned copies.
However I do believe that Barack Obama is the only president to have a Governor from an opposing political party vouch for his birthplace.

“You know, during the campaign of 2008, I was actually in the mainland campaigning for Senator McCain. This issue kept coming up so much in the campaign, and again I think it’s one of those issues that is simply a distraction from the more critical issues that are facing the country. And so I had my health director, who is a physician by background, go personally view the birth certificate in the birth records of the Department of Health, and we issued a news release at that time saying that the president was, in fact, born at Kapi’olani Hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii. And that’s just a fact. And yet people continue to call up and e-mail and want to make it an issue. And I think it’s, again, a horrible distraction for the country by those people who continue this. ... It’s been established. He was born here.”—Governor of Hawaii Linda Lingle (R)


608 posted on 07/31/2010 10:46:22 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: DontTreadOnMe2009

Thanks for the citation. I have to correct myself on one point: The last time I checked the FactCheck blog story, Born in the USA, there was a photo of someone holding a piece of paper. The caption beneath the photo stated, “The Obama birth certificate, held by FactCheck writer Joe Miller.”

So, even though Mr. Miller himself did not state, so far as I know, that he saw this document, and even though the person holding this document is faceless, the blog itself contends that a FactCheck writer named Joe Miller held the “Obama birth certificate,” which we know is not true because that’s not a birth certificate.

So far as I know, no member of the media (excluding partisan blogs) nor any member of Congress has ever said that he or she has seen the actual document, instead of a piece of paper printed out off the Internet from the image at FactCheck BLOG. Since I don’t have a screen shot, I also don’t know when FactCheck blog placed that caption on the photo.

But the fact remains that Obama could easily have a new document printed by the Hawaiian Dept. of Health, certified by the HDoH, and given directly by the HDoH to reporters, for a very small fee, which many would be happy to pay on his behalf. He has not done so. Instead, he spends his own and taxpayers’ money fighting in courts to prevent this document from being produced.

Why, if he WAS born in Honolulu, Hawaii, as Barack Hussein Obama II, to the individuals he claims as his parents, at the time and on the date shown on that digital image, and was on 8/8/61 given Hawaiian birth certificate number 151 1961 - 010641, all proving, as his supporters contend, that he is eligible to be POTUS?

As you said, DontTreadOnMe2009, “incredible and unbelievable.”

Here’s another inconvenient truth. Mr. Joe Miller left FactCheck blog in January, 2010. But guess where he also worked, beginning sometime in 2009?

http://www.linkedin.com/pub/joe-miller/4/92a/380

He’s Managing Web Editor at the Congressional Budget Office!

From “nonpartisan” blog to the CBO. A government job. Paid by you, the taxpayers. During the administration of the person whose “birth certificate” he visited and which he and he alone held. Isn’t THAT special?

While working for the government, he concurrently worked at the “nonpartisan” FactCheck blog. Interestingly enough, if you click on “my blog” and “my company” at the bottom of Joe Miller’s linkedin profile, you’ll find yourself at . . . FactCheck blog!

btw, since Mr. Joe Miller’s byline is on that Born in the USA story at FactCheck blog, one could reasonably conclude that Mr. Miller is among those who inexplicably focused not upon what constitutes sufficient proof of natural born citizenship, but instead upon what the State Dept. requires to prove citizenship. He wrote about this in the story, “The certificate [meaning the Obama COLB] has all the elements the State Department requires for proving citizenship to obtain a U.S. passport: ‘your full name, the full name of your parent(s), date and place of birth, sex, date the birth record was filed, and the seal or other certification of the official custodian of such records.’ The names, date and place of birth, and filing date are all evident on the scanned version, and you can see the seal above.”

Curious, huh? What the State Dept. requires to prove citizenship in order to receive a passport. NOT what the Constitution requires to prove someone is a natural born citizen.

Btw, the exif data in the FactCheck photographer’s camera placed the photograph session in March, 2008, right before the final time that someone broke into Obama’s passport files. Curiouser and curiouser, my dears.


609 posted on 07/31/2010 5:41:08 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Greenperson

You’ve done a great job again, Green.

I was aware of those Miller photos- yes, there are a few photos at one partisan blog on the Internet purporting to show one headless staff member holding a certificate.

Sweet Jesus help us, what is wrong with these people and the country?

That we are reduced to using scanned Internet photos of headless holders of far away certificates, .......... maybe.

As you so cogently pointed out, if it is real, all he has to do is pick up the phone and make a free call to Hawaii and announce that for $10 or $12 anyone in the country

or any journalist or member of Congress

could have a copy.

Think it’ll happen?

Never.

I can only conclude that there IS NO CERTIFICATE and that’s why this fight has gone on and on and on and on

for Three Years !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


610 posted on 08/01/2010 5:52:52 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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To: Buddygirl

I don’t know. Maybe it would be better to ask Photobucket because when I clicked on that link, it told me that Photobucket had deleted the image.

Does anyone know what the image was? I may have one ...


611 posted on 08/01/2010 5:56:48 AM PDT by DontTreadOnMe2009 (So stop treading on me already!)
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