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EMP could leave '9 out of 10 Americans dead'
WorldNetDaily ^ | May 3, 2010 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 05/04/2010 5:12:37 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There is renewed alarm about the possibility of an EMP attack – electromagnetic pulse – on the United States because of Iran's work on a multi-stage Space Launch Vehicle, according to a report from Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

And experts forecast if such an attack were a success, it effectively could throw the U.S. back into an age of agriculture.

"Within a year of that attack, nine out of 10 Americans would be dead, because we can't support a population of the present size in urban centers and the like without electricity," said Frank Gaffney, president of the Center for Security Policy. "And that is exactly what I believe the Iranians are working towards."

A recent launch of an SLV by Iran has sparked renewed concern of an attack that could send an electromagnetic pulse powerful enough to wipe out computer controls for systems on which society has come to rely, officials say.

As the G2 Bulletin reported last week, Ronald Burgess, director of the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency, revealed that Iran successfully launched a multi-stage SLV, the Simorgh. The device ultimately could be equipped with a nuclear bomb, which the U.S. intelligence community assesses Iran is developing.

Officials also report Iran has been testing detonation of its nuclear-capable missiles by remote control while still in high-altitude flight...

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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To: cripplecreek

They resent that fact as well.

However, I can imagine that the “intelligentsia” is salivating at the idea.

30 million people are MUCH easier to CONTROL than 300 million people.


61 posted on 05/04/2010 5:53:52 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: cripplecreek
Actually most will die while waiting for rescue
I think Katrina proved that.



62 posted on 05/04/2010 5:54:03 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: BobL

And here the traitor-in-chief is going around telling the world how many nukes we have.


63 posted on 05/04/2010 5:54:34 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Mad Dawgg

It could be done in a much lower-tech way. I don’t think I am giving them any ideas they haven’t thought of but: One man with a .22 or AK could destroy most of the transformers in a typical substation in seconds.

They have almost no security. Most of the ones around here only have a chainlink fence for security. They wouldn’t even need to dismount their ride. If a coordinated assault in the middle of a hot August night happened .......a chain of overload failures could occur like we have never seen.

It would take months to manufacture and replace all those cans!


64 posted on 05/04/2010 5:54:55 AM PDT by Howie
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To: halfright
After trying to get Netflix malware outta my computer I hope netflix is the first one exposed to the the EMP. BASTARDS they are.

Never heard of it. Googled also.

65 posted on 05/04/2010 5:55:01 AM PDT by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: GOP_Party_Animal

50%


66 posted on 05/04/2010 5:56:11 AM PDT by x_plus_one (Luke 22:36 ......and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.....)
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To: snoringbear

Read Rawles’ How to Survive the End of the World As We Know It before reading Patriots.

How to Survive is an overview of all those “I didn’t think of that” items. Patriots is a novel based on these concepts.


67 posted on 05/04/2010 5:56:22 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: snoringbear
Yeah, guess there will now be a premium on old pre-solid state ignition vehicles.

This is another problem. Any windings with areas of weakened insulation will suffer breakdown and shorts. A good idea is to stock up on new insulated copper windings and equipment. Better also to bone up on doing your LaPlace formulas by hand and EMP protected calculator.

A better idea would to be just place a shield in the attic of your garage, since the burst will probably be high altitude. I am investigating reflective insulation as a dual solution. This will increase the chance of survival of any vehicle that is parked during the pulse.
68 posted on 05/04/2010 5:56:32 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

Good analysis.


69 posted on 05/04/2010 5:56:41 AM PDT by mlocher (USA is a sovereign nation)
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To: ClearCase_guy

” A large segment of our society lacks any ability to take care of itself.”

Then the loss will not be in vain. Improves the chances of survival for those who have the initiative to take control of their destiny. People waiting for the government to help them are a drain on society anyhow.


70 posted on 05/04/2010 5:56:54 AM PDT by o_zarkman44 (Obama is the ultimate LIE!)
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To: mad_as_he$$

You need to gain a deeper understanding of how the EMP pulses are generated. There’s some real science and physics behind it.

Underground tests rapidly attenuate Gamma rays, and the EMP effects are VERY localized.

Atmospheric tests (say 10,000 feet and below) DID screw up the power grid in Hawaii (there’s citations for this, but I am in a hurry). Atmospheric testing by the good guys ceased a LONG time ago.

BUT the REAL EMP pulses are generated as a result of extra-atmospheric detonation of a powerful/ high gamma ray-producing nuke. Without getting deep into the Compton effect, suffice it to say a detonation in near space energizes the atmosphere in such a way that two pulses (first one short duration, second one longer duration) of hi energy EMF hit the atmosphere but do not pass nap of the earth/ line of sight.

You are unwise to pooh pooh EMP. It is real and would absolutely WRECK our power grid of long lines (essentially perfect antennae for the EMF of the pulses.)

Recent testing has hinted (via modeling and small scale testing) has indicated that modern electronics might not be as susceptible as feared, but there would be no power grid to supply them. You car might run, but no power to pumps etc etc etc.

NET: a successful EMP attack WOULD send us back to the 18th century. And we don;t generally have the skills, tools or infrastructure to survive.

Also learn about EMF shielding and grounding. Called Faraday cages, it’s quite simple to shield and ground important devices. Space blankets and copper wire can shield a parked vehicle. Be prepared if you so desire.

Truly, read One Second After and Patriots and also Rawles TEOTWAWKI book.


71 posted on 05/04/2010 5:57:12 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur)
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To: PA Engineer
Actually, the deer population was at a low starting around the 1900's. Now, it is estimated that there are more deer in PA then when the first settlers arrived.

And every fall, when the deers go into rut, I-79 gets a fur coat.

72 posted on 05/04/2010 5:57:14 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Bringbackthedraft

You think the current CinC would retaliate or negotiate?


73 posted on 05/04/2010 5:57:18 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a (de)humanist and a Satanist is that the latter knows who he's working for.)
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To: Renderofveils

You’re right. In the greater Boston area, there was a pipe break in the main that carries water from a big reservoir to some 30 or 35 towns. They fixed it pretty quick, but in the meantime everyone was scrambling and boiling water. Without power, or with multiple infrastructure screwups, there’s 2 million people right there without the means for clean drinking water. Yes, surrounding towns on well water could make up some of the difference, but that’s Boston. LA, Phoenix, or New York would be a lot worse off with a water system failure.


74 posted on 05/04/2010 5:57:29 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: shibumi
It is my belief (and in some ways a perverse hope) that such an attack would see the end of Liberal culture

Not only an end to liberal culture but the beginning of the balkanization of the northern hemisphere.

75 posted on 05/04/2010 5:57:34 AM PDT by x_plus_one (Luke 22:36 ......and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.....)
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To: puppypusher

Maybe today EMP can or cannot have such a devastating impact, but inevitably there will be something that will come along that will threaten to trap us in our own technology.


76 posted on 05/04/2010 5:57:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: autumnraine

I’ve got cathedral ceilings and plenty of windows. Provided we’re not in the fallout pattern, we’ll have plenty of fresh air cascading through!


77 posted on 05/04/2010 5:58:42 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: autumnraine

I’ve lived in the South for the past 20 years. The trend in home building for all of that time has been high ceilings in all of the subdivisions and in every newer home I have entered. In fact, I cannot recall a home that hasn’t been built during that time where a high ceiling wasn’t commonplace. And cross ventilation is quite common as well.

As for surviving without AC, you’d be surprised how well Southerners can actually handle the heat. In August the temperatures routinely reach 104 F, plus humidity. I’ve gone through that heat without AC. It is manageable. Life would go on without AC.

The key is the fact that the highest heat temps only last for a few short days in August. For the rest of the year, the weather and temperature is fine.

Yes, AC makes things more comfortable, but it is not a necessity of life like water, food or air. The South would survive without AC.

And when I talk to someone of the older generation they kind of brush off the heat and say that they’re accustomed to it. They know how to prepare for the hottest days, even those without AC.


78 posted on 05/04/2010 5:59:47 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife (Utopia is being foisted on Americans for their own good.-- J. Robert Smith)
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To: kosciusko51
Stupid fingers!!! deers == deer.

Sometimes, I wish FR had a edit feature like wiki, so that you could edit your posts, but others could see the change history. It would allow people to fix stupid little mistakes, but prevent someone from claiming the said or did not say something.

79 posted on 05/04/2010 6:01:28 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Mac n Jac
Jerry Pournelle

And his web site is required reading. His blog posts (the View from Chaos Manor) and his reader mail page are as good for high-quality-and-information-density content as anything on the web.

Current View

Current Mail

80 posted on 05/04/2010 6:01:30 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (No Representation without Taxation!)
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