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EMP could leave '9 out of 10 Americans dead'
WorldNetDaily ^ | May 3, 2010 | Joseph Farah

Posted on 05/04/2010 5:12:37 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

There is renewed alarm about the possibility of an EMP attack – electromagnetic pulse – on the United States because of Iran's work on a multi-stage Space Launch Vehicle, according to a report from Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

And experts forecast if such an attack were a success, it effectively could throw the U.S. back into an age of agriculture.

"Within a year of that attack, nine out of 10 Americans would be dead, because we can't support a population of the present size in urban centers and the like without electricity," said Frank Gaffney, president of the Center for Security Policy. "And that is exactly what I believe the Iranians are working towards."

A recent launch of an SLV by Iran has sparked renewed concern of an attack that could send an electromagnetic pulse powerful enough to wipe out computer controls for systems on which society has come to rely, officials say.

As the G2 Bulletin reported last week, Ronald Burgess, director of the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency, revealed that Iran successfully launched a multi-stage SLV, the Simorgh. The device ultimately could be equipped with a nuclear bomb, which the U.S. intelligence community assesses Iran is developing.

Officials also report Iran has been testing detonation of its nuclear-capable missiles by remote control while still in high-altitude flight...

(Excerpt) Read more at wnd.com ...


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To: GOP_Party_Animal
Yes, 90% dead, but not in 12 months, I think in 6 months.

EMP fries electrical systems. That means, no transportation, no frozen food storage, no electricity. No production or transport of food. No municipal water service. No internet. No telephone service. No communications to coordinate recovery. No medicine. How long do you think people will survive?

21 posted on 05/04/2010 5:25:42 AM PDT by Former Proud Canadian (How do I change my screen name now that we have the most conservative government in the world?)
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To: Mac n Jac

“Anyone that wants to get an idea of life after an EMP attack should read ONE SECOND AFTER by WILLIAM R. FORSTCHEN.

And if that isn’t enough to get you heading to COSTCO for some canned food try PATRIOTS by JAMES WESLEY RAWLES or maybe LUCIFER’S HAMMER by Larry Niven and David Pournelle.”

And, for moral support after the big event, buy “A Country Boy Can Survive” by Hank Williams Jr. Remember to buy it in 8 track as only pre-solid state ignition vehicles will be able to function...


22 posted on 05/04/2010 5:25:48 AM PDT by snoringbear (Government is the Pimp,)
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To: JEC

Thanks for that netflix movie tip.


23 posted on 05/04/2010 5:25:58 AM PDT by NavyCanDo
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
Bad? Yes. 90% of Americans dead? Come on.

NOTHING works. No power, no communications, no cars, trucks, trains, planes, medical care, most farm equipment. Food in the midwest can't be harvested. If it was no way to move it to the rest of the country just one example. The US would be immediately catapulted into the 19th century, without the skills and tools to survive. In 1900 there were 76 million people in America, with 90% of them living on farms. The death toll would be horrendous.
24 posted on 05/04/2010 5:26:48 AM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: NavyCanDo

I found this brilliant piece from “Connections” IMHO this series should be mandatory viewing in schools, even though it was made about 30 years ago.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6H-w9Rm46o&feature=related


25 posted on 05/04/2010 5:27:03 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: cripplecreek
What may be true of the city seldom translates to the country very well.

You better be a long long long way from any center of population or the locust will come and strip the area clean...
26 posted on 05/04/2010 5:28:09 AM PDT by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Reqiescat in Pace)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“A large segment of our society lacks any ability to take care of itself. “

Their plan for a culture of dependency is working rather well.


27 posted on 05/04/2010 5:29:22 AM PDT by listenhillary (Capitalism = billions raised from poverty, Socialism = billions reduced to starvation)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Boston had a major water main break over the weekend. Two million people had to boil their water before drinking it. That's pretty simple, really.

That's pretty simple until the pumps supplying the tap water fail. Then you've effectively got one average day's usage of tap water.
28 posted on 05/04/2010 5:31:33 AM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: mad_as_he$$

I think if an EMP of that size were detonated anywhere on the planet the ripple effect would more than likely take out the idiots who set it off also.


29 posted on 05/04/2010 5:31:42 AM PDT by sniper63 (Bang,Bang, Maxwell's Silver hammer........)
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To: autumnraine

In the south, those in the newer homes will not survive. .................................. 12’ceiling isn’t high enough with the Gulf breeze flowing through our east west openings? One missile hitting one of our cities would insure the non existence of Iran. The EMP would have no effect on a missile submarine at sea.


30 posted on 05/04/2010 5:31:48 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (THE CANDIDATE THE LEFT SMEARS THE MOST IS THE ONE THEY FEAR THE MOST.)
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To: mad_as_he$$

“Yawn, not this crap again. Yes EMP is an issue but not the doomsday weapon. Ask yourself with all the nuclear testing that went on for years why didn’t stop the world? The Soviets did above ground and high altitude tests, we did above ground tests and not planes crashed etc.”

I’m not a nuclear scientist, and I don’t play one on TV, but the reason nuclear testing didn’t destroy much via EMP is because there wasn’t much to destroy in the places where testing was done, the atmosphere tends to damp out EMP, as does the nuclear byproducts of a thermonuclear explosion.

Our electronics are far more vulnerable now than they were back when the Soviets were testing their bombs, and if a small atomic bomb, not a multi-stage thermonuclear device, would indeed generate a large EMP if detonated 200-300 miles above the atmosphere over an intended target. At that altitude the EMP footprint on the ground would be about 3000 miles in diameter.


31 posted on 05/04/2010 5:34:29 AM PDT by Bean Counter (We hang the petty thieves and appoint the great ones to public office -- Aesop)
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To: Renderofveils

Most of the world does not have clean water the way we think of clean water. You can survive on less than perfect water, which is what would start happening.

Yes, an EMP would fry a ton of stuff, but there would be recovery within days. Spare equipment that was not online at the time, portable generators, older vehicles, etc. would almost immediately start the recovery of a major disaster.

A lot of people would die, but 90%? Hyperbolic hysteria.


32 posted on 05/04/2010 5:35:03 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

One EMP device wipes out entire world seems a tiny bit over the top. Two or Three over N.Y. would be nasty. I get so tired of these Doomsday post that seem to get a mite bit over the top. Sort of like “Mad man with automatic could take out entire Pentagon and send U.S. defenses back to Bows and Arrows.” Any one with a serious knowledge just how many of these devices it would take to destroy ALL electronics, including the hardened equipment the military has, world wide?


33 posted on 05/04/2010 5:35:44 AM PDT by Gadsden1st
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To: dfwgator

“Connections” was, hands down, one of the top series for television ever produced. Absolutely brilliant.


34 posted on 05/04/2010 5:35:55 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: Renderofveils
Don't misunderstand me -- I was not making any general comment about the effects of an EMP!

The situation in Boston was that everything was fine -- phones OK, electricity OK, transportation OK, refrigeration OK, fine weather, a beautiful weekend in every way!

There was only one thing wrong -- there were microbes in the public water supply. But that was easily dealt with by putting tap water in a pot, putting the pot on your stove and boiling it.

THAT was too much for some people to handle.

An EMP would just wipe these people out.

35 posted on 05/04/2010 5:36:01 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy
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To: GOP_Party_Animal
"Bad? Yes. 90% of Americans dead? Come on."

At first it seems a bit unreal but think through the scenario if electricity cannot be restored within a month or two.

Rural areas would be better off that is until the people in the Urban areas started flooding in escaping the cities.

Rioting, Hoarding, looting would be rampant. Gasoline would be hard to come by (Pumps don't work without electricity) Hospitals would be mini disaster areas without electricity. There is no way they all have emergency generators to meet the needs of all the electrical systems. Imagine just losing the electrical monitors that send alarms to the nurses. You would lose lots more people just tot he fact that alarms wouldn't go off to alert nurses about needed emergency aide.

Grocery stiores would not be able to keep meat, or dairy, or produce for long. Our whole supply and demand system would go completely out of whack. Factories could not can food or package it. Yeah eventually stuff could be reverted to hand labor but it would take months.

So unless the effects of the EMP could be fixed in a few weeks I venture that lots of people in the USA would be starving inside of 6-7 weeks! (Supposedly there is only one month of food on average available in the USA at any given time.)

36 posted on 05/04/2010 5:37:35 AM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the next one...)
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To: Kozak

Why would a tractor not work again?


37 posted on 05/04/2010 5:38:36 AM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Not in my home..........I can't even get cell service inside. Have to go to the front porch to use my phone.

Radiant barrier....just love it. Well, hate it too.

I dunno, I'm confused.

Well anyhow, bring it on Iran. Thinkin their won't be an Iran after such an attack.

38 posted on 05/04/2010 5:38:51 AM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Kozak
You and the author are making two key assumptions: 1. That the populace is totally unable to adapt. Yes, there would be massive problems, civil unrest and even starvation. But again 90%?! No. Not nearly. 2. The pulse hits every tractor sitting in a barn in America. Come on now. Even the Soviets couldn't hit every semi-urban area in the United States. What makes you think the Iranians can?

You've been sucked in by the article's hyperbole. I guess that's what it's supposed to do.

39 posted on 05/04/2010 5:39:08 AM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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To: All

The hard thing, and this would include dwellers in the immediate area of large cities (radius of 30-50 miles) would see people crawling out of the large cities in a panic. You would see large sections of forests wiped out for wood for fires, lakes would be overfished and polluted by untreated human waste. Home invasion and squatters. Don’t care how many guns a farmer has - urban dwellers will have them too, and there will be too many for the farmer to overcome. It would have to be a cooperative effort like in Jericho, where a town has an volunteer army protecting the city.


40 posted on 05/04/2010 5:40:28 AM PDT by Maringa
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