Could Educators Be That Dumb?? (Everyone Wants To Know)

CanadaFreePress ^ | April 24, 2010 | Bruce Deitrick Price

[BruceDeitrickPrice]

Perhaps you saw the exchange on television.

One guest said, “The administration’s approach is destructive; they must be trying to hurt the country.”

The startled moderator exclaimed: “Do you mean they’re doing it on purpose? Why would you think that?”

The guest explained his reasoning: “Because nobody’s that dumb.”

Eureka! There you have it, a perfect condensation of everything that I’ve been able to figure out, over the past ten years, about education...

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[ontap]

That's only true if the assumption is their main interest is education. What do you think it is?

[ClearCase_guy]

If schools turned out large numbers of well-behaved, well-educated students, the public would nod and say "Thanks". If the school then approached the public and asked for more staff, new buildings and bigger budgets, the public would shake their collective head and say, "You don't need that. You're doing just fine!"

What do we see? Schools turning out ill-educated, ill-behaved students. The public is shocked and dismayed. The schools then approach the public and say, "If only we had new buildings, more staff, larger budgets! Then we could really do a fantastic job!"

As an extortion racket, this has worked pretty well. With the schools in perpetual "crisis", the public tends to throw lots of money at the "problem".

There is very little incentive for schools to do a good job.

[Westbrook]

When discussing government education with a somebody who indicated that the schools needed more money to improve.

I told him that, no matter how much you give them, it will never, ever be enough. It’s the model that’s broken, not the funding.

Our government school model is based on the collectivist model established in Germany in the mid 19th century and imported here by Horace Mann.

[ontap]

It’s a con game between Unions and politicians. Has nothing to do with education Teachers and students are pawns in a pawnzy scheme!! Big special elections are held bonds sold and the money goes to contracters who give the politicians their donation (pay off). Then the administraters get theirs and what’s left goes toward students and teachers. As soon as the election passes plans are implemented for the next bond election.

[YHAOS]

Another reason for the separation of school and state.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Also, how many politicians have you heard say, “Education is my top priority”, yet when the budget comes up short, the VERY FIRST THING they want to cut is education.

[wintertime]

PING

[wintertime]

“Because nobody’s that dumb.”
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The ordinary government teacher who loves her cat and attends her church women’s auxiliary really is that dumb. Either that or they are evil. Remember that the next time you meet a teacher.

It is teachers who make the schools what they are. Every day they go to school, turn the key in lock of the front door, and then **willingly** proceed to use methods and adopt an atheistic, secular humanist worldview that **HURTS** children.

No one is holding a gun to a teacher’s head. No one will ship them off to a concentration camp. Teachers **willingly** hurt children in exchange for money and benefits.

If you know a good teacher, then it is a **former** teacher, a person who quit or was fired. If they are still holding on their job it is because they have agreed to hurt children.

As for teacher unions, ( the most powerful in the U.S.), only teachers make unions what they are. Parents don’t. Voters don’t. Legislators don’t. ONLY teachers. If the teachers unions are evil, it is because teachers are evil.

One more thing...If your wife, daughter, niece, cousin, etc. is smart. Then somewhere in the system there is a very dumb teacher, because on **average** teachers have the lowest SAT and ACT scores on campus.

[BruceDeitrickPrice]

I don’t know enough to contradict what you say. I’ll just mention my sense that for the young people coming into education, I suspect it’s a lot like young people going into the priesthood. Experts from on high tell you what is true. If you don’t accept the creed, you have to get out. The people at the top know the control they have when the rookies are only 24 and will soon need a job. I think if teachers showed independence, the bosses would purge them. So we end up with a much more monolithic and dumbed-down profession than is good for the country. I end up thinking we will get more done by replacing the top 100 bosses than by trying to change 1,000,000 teachers....It’s also a lot like the Army. You can’t blame very much on lowly soldiers. It’s 100 generals in the Pentagon that control things.

So let’s say I’m an advocate of fixing things from the top down. I believe we could transform the entire system in a year if we got rid of the ideologues who so cunningly engineered all the nonsense.

[wintertime]

I don’t know enough to contradict what you say. I’ll just mention my sense that for the young people coming into education, I suspect it’s a lot like young people going into the priesthood.

Hm? Priesthood?...Yes, that is a good way to frame the problem. The religion being taught is atheistic worship of the religion of Almighty Government Education.

Try this sometime. Ask a government teacher if all of education could be privatized. Their head will explode. They are beyond imagining such a situation. Yet...These same teachers thing nothing of going to their local supermarket to enjoy the amazing variety and efficiency of a capitalist system of food delivery.

Experts from on high tell you what is true. If you don’t accept the creed, you have to get out. The people at the top know the control they have when the rookies are only 24 and will soon need a job.

As the author of the article pointed out, government education is sooooooo bad that people couldn't be **that** stupid. If they can't be **that** stupid, they must be doing it on purpose for evil reasons!

I disagree with the author. I think the ordinary classroom teacher( who loves her cat and is in her church women's auxiliary) really is **that** stupid. There SAT scores are the worst on campus.

If you don’t accept the creed, you have to get out. The people at the top know the control they have when the rookies are only 24 and will soon need a job

Bingo! If a teacher is ethical and honest, the anointed priesthood hierarchy would soon get rid of them. If you know a teacher, they are either **that** stupid or evil. If they weren't stupid or evil they would have been fired or they would have quit soon after taking the job.

I think if teachers showed independence, the bosses would purge them. So we end up with a much more monolithic and dumbed-down profession than is good for the country. I end up thinking we will get more done by replacing the top 100 bosses than by trying to change 1,000,000 teachers....It’s also a lot like the Army. You can’t blame very much on lowly soldiers. It’s 100 generals in the Pentagon that control things.

I used the example of supermarkets above. If we had government run supermarket we would have all of the same problem with food distribution that we see with government supplied schooling. Poor quality, limited choice, waste, expense,and over abundance of upper management,

So let’s say I’m an advocate of fixing things from the top down. I believe we could transform the entire system in a year if we got rid of the ideologues who so cunningly engineered all the nonsense.

The solution is complete separation of school and state. The solution is complete privatization of K-12 schooling. The solution is to completely close down every government school in the nation.