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To: wintertime

I don’t know enough to contradict what you say. I’ll just mention my sense that for the young people coming into education, I suspect it’s a lot like young people going into the priesthood. Experts from on high tell you what is true. If you don’t accept the creed, you have to get out. The people at the top know the control they have when the rookies are only 24 and will soon need a job. I think if teachers showed independence, the bosses would purge them. So we end up with a much more monolithic and dumbed-down profession than is good for the country. I end up thinking we will get more done by replacing the top 100 bosses than by trying to change 1,000,000 teachers....It’s also a lot like the Army. You can’t blame very much on lowly soldiers. It’s 100 generals in the Pentagon that control things.

So let’s say I’m an advocate of fixing things from the top down. I believe we could transform the entire system in a year if we got rid of the ideologues who so cunningly engineered all the nonsense.


11 posted on 04/26/2010 3:03:44 PM PDT by BruceDeitrickPrice (education reform)
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To: BruceDeitrickPrice
I don’t know enough to contradict what you say. I’ll just mention my sense that for the young people coming into education, I suspect it’s a lot like young people going into the priesthood.

Hm? Priesthood?...Yes, that is a good way to frame the problem. The religion being taught is atheistic worship of the religion of Almighty Government Education.

Try this sometime. Ask a government teacher if all of education could be privatized. Their head will explode. They are beyond imagining such a situation. Yet...These same teachers thing nothing of going to their local supermarket to enjoy the amazing variety and efficiency of a capitalist system of food delivery.

Experts from on high tell you what is true. If you don’t accept the creed, you have to get out. The people at the top know the control they have when the rookies are only 24 and will soon need a job.

As the author of the article pointed out, government education is sooooooo bad that people couldn't be **that** stupid. If they can't be **that** stupid, they must be doing it on purpose for evil reasons!

I disagree with the author. I think the ordinary classroom teacher( who loves her cat and is in her church women's auxiliary) really is **that** stupid. There SAT scores are the worst on campus.

If you don’t accept the creed, you have to get out. The people at the top know the control they have when the rookies are only 24 and will soon need a job

Bingo! If a teacher is ethical and honest, the anointed priesthood hierarchy would soon get rid of them. If you know a teacher, they are either **that** stupid or evil. If they weren't stupid or evil they would have been fired or they would have quit soon after taking the job.

I think if teachers showed independence, the bosses would purge them. So we end up with a much more monolithic and dumbed-down profession than is good for the country. I end up thinking we will get more done by replacing the top 100 bosses than by trying to change 1,000,000 teachers....It’s also a lot like the Army. You can’t blame very much on lowly soldiers. It’s 100 generals in the Pentagon that control things.

I used the example of supermarkets above. If we had government run supermarket we would have all of the same problem with food distribution that we see with government supplied schooling. Poor quality, limited choice, waste, expense,and over abundance of upper management,

So let’s say I’m an advocate of fixing things from the top down. I believe we could transform the entire system in a year if we got rid of the ideologues who so cunningly engineered all the nonsense.

The solution is complete separation of school and state. The solution is complete privatization of K-12 schooling. The solution is to completely close down every government school in the nation.

12 posted on 04/26/2010 5:56:44 PM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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