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Questions on the best way of buying Gold and Silver (Vanity)

Posted on 04/21/2010 10:00:36 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot

Okay, now since everyone has stocked up on their favorite ammo & guns (You can tell this by the fact that ammo actually stays on store shelfs for more than 10 minutes)

And now that everyone has hopefully stocked on food, water and other essentials (Non-hybrid seeds, etc)

The next step is acquiring some precious metal assets, the purpose of this vanity is to ask everyone the best ways to do this.

Where are the better places to buy these assets?

With a Large National firm or a local retail outlet?

How much should I buy of Gold and Silver?

Bullion or coins?


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KEYWORDS: crash; economy; gold; prep; preparedness; shtf; survival; vanity
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Note: I do need to go out and buy More guns – my misfortune was that whilst crossing Puget sound, my gun safe inadvertently fell out of my pickup on the ferry – taking most of my guns and a lot of my ammo.

So it's back to square one for me.

1 posted on 04/21/2010 10:00:36 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot
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To: BerserkPatriot

I’m in for the recommendations.


2 posted on 04/21/2010 10:04:28 AM PDT by Loud Mime (initialpoints.net - - The Constitution as the center of politics -- Download the graph)
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To: BerserkPatriot

Personally, I always look to Wal-Mart parking lots for all my precious metal buying needs.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2497020/posts

SnakeDoc


3 posted on 04/21/2010 10:05:11 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("The world will know that free men stood against a tyrant [...] that even a god-king can bleed.")
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To: BerserkPatriot

A little something I picked up a long time ago. When everyone is buying, sell. When everyone is selling, buy.

Also beware Gold plated tungsten.


4 posted on 04/21/2010 10:05:36 AM PDT by LeGrande (Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial.)
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To: BerserkPatriot

There are several mints on the internet where you can buy bullion in coin or bar form. Ebay is also a good place (if you are the winning bidder). Most of the gold and silver on eBay that sells at a “Buy it now” price is over priced.

The mints on the internet usually charge $0.79 to $2.99 over the current spot price of either gold or silver. Sometmes, if you create a userid on their sites, they will also send you emails when they have something on sale.

I watch the spot prices continually and only buy when I sell a good size fall in the price, since the precious metals market can fluctuate by good sized amounts on any given day.

Hope that helps...


5 posted on 04/21/2010 10:07:44 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: illiac

sell = see


6 posted on 04/21/2010 10:08:34 AM PDT by illiac (If we don't change directions soon, we'll get where we're going)
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To: BerserkPatriot
I was just thinking the same thing. Better get out of that house of cards I'm in.
7 posted on 04/21/2010 10:09:54 AM PDT by McGruff (So how is that Hopey Changey thingy working out for ya America?)
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To: BerserkPatriot

http://inflation.us/reviews/

also www.tulving.com

assume $40 over spot for American Eagles 1 oz, depending on how many you are buying.


8 posted on 04/21/2010 10:12:24 AM PDT by cowtowney
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To: BerserkPatriot

I’m an avid coin collector, and would say buying at a coin show from a reputable dealer US Eagles and Can Maples is your best bet. Always try for a better deal, the dealer paid above spot for the coins so you will pay more per ounce but it isn’t bad. I think a roll of Silver Eagles was $400 last time I checked about a month ago. Gold...Well, Nobody can buy much at these prices, but you can try for 1/10 oz. and 1/4 oz. coins, but they go fast. Also try picking up some Peace and Morgan silver dollars. They are easy to come by, and usually aren’t too expensive.

I also wouldn’t waste my time on slabbed and graded coins unless you are a collector. They look awesome, but you pay a premium and the price of the grading is added on to the top. You won’t get a return if TSHTF.

Small size Silver coins are also good choices, they sell $1000 face bulk US Silver at many shows and they go for a few thousand dollars, but they are the old SILVER Coins not the clad fakes we have now. (Check article 1 section 10 of the Constitution for coin language!)

Coin magazines have some BS Ads in the back, beware!
Online is scary these days, Beware!

I buy from www.royalcoin.com but I live near enough to make the hour drive into that part of Houston. They are a good legit dealer and have been good to me. Otherwise, ask around and you will hear from buyers and sellers who you can trust and who you can’t.

Most coin dealers are old dudes trying to make a living. They make a slim profit if lucky, and horse trade often. Many make money by doing collection values of gradpa’s collection after he is gone for the family.

Good luck.


9 posted on 04/21/2010 10:14:24 AM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com)
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To: BerserkPatriot

LOL!

What a coincidence. That happened to me too!


10 posted on 04/21/2010 10:14:54 AM PDT by Pessimist (u)
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To: LeGrande

That’s good advice – but I’m not sure that we have the luxury of waiting until the proper time.

My thinking is that any savings we have in the bank will be eaten up by inflation or whatever, so the rationale is to at last use some of those savings as a hedge against future disaster.

I realize it would be foolish to take all savings and buy precious metals, Putting all of you eggs in basket is foolish, by the same token, the same could be said about leaving most if not all of you money as greenbacks.


11 posted on 04/21/2010 10:16:09 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot (There are no 1st Amendment rights without 2nd Amendment Rights)
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To: cowtowney

Thank you


12 posted on 04/21/2010 10:17:38 AM PDT by BerserkPatriot (There are no 1st Amendment rights without 2nd Amendment Rights)
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I am not an expert. I bought some silver American Eagles from APEX on line. They delivered it- no problem. I then took to safety deposit box.

Note: Check your homeowners policy- it may have limits on how much is covered if stored at home for things like gold, silver, jewelry, guns, and computers etc. which you may want to increase.


13 posted on 04/21/2010 10:19:13 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: BerserkPatriot

Where are the better places to buy these assets?
With a Large National firm or a local retail outlet?

- You’ll pay a huge premium at local pawn shops, not quite as much at local coin shops, but it’s cash and carry and no paperwork whatsoever. That will be important eventually. For now, I myself like http://www.blanchardonline.com

How much should I buy of Gold and Silver?

- It’d be a fool’s errand to try to find a generally agreed upon balance for silver vs gold. I personally believe that silver will outperform gold going forward. The knock on silver is that it takes a lot of space to store a lot of value, but hey who are we kidding with that — a stack of eight one-ounce Silver Eagles is an inch high and less than two inches wide; it’s worth $144 or about $75 per cubic inch. $150,000 in silver would take 2000 cubic inches which is, as one example, a box 10” x 10” x 20”. Plenty of room for that in a safe.

- Bullion or coins?

I say coins. They’re harder to counterfeit, they’re more cool to look at and to show (trusted) friends, and they’re more readily available.

All IMO.

Search for keyword “gold” to find articles related to gold and silver, and mail me to get onto the Goldbug Ping List.


14 posted on 04/21/2010 10:20:46 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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15 posted on 04/21/2010 10:23:12 AM PDT by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: BerserkPatriot

One thing I’ll reco is to watch/listen to some of the videos on this site www.goldsilver.com = Mike Maloney, for the reasons to buy the various forms. I used to work with Mike, I don’t any longer, nor do I have an affiliation. He explains things pretty well.

Another thing is to peruse a forum. Like this one over on Denninger’s site: http://tickerforum.org/cgi-ticker/akcs-www?forum=Metals

All of your questions have been asked & answered a million times before, that’s why I am not directly answering your questions.

You have to do your own research as to why you wish to own this stuff, and how deeply you want to get into it. I happen to own a lot of silver, but I own about all I want to own and I’m not buying any at present.

A lot of people want to own PMs for misguided reasons. Many people claim that the government is “printing money like crazy”. Well, that’s really not true, even though it is a popular saying. So...if that happens to be your reason for buying PMs, then your reasoning isn’t very sound.

Sources: APMEX, Tulving, CNI = www.golddealer.com or goldline.com. All = excellent, flawless (AFAIK) reputations. Watch your shipping costs. Purchases under $1K are taxable in some states, under $2500 in some other states. The APMEX site is excellent for comparing prices, plus, you can buy late at night when severe price drops have a habit of happening. If you like silver, they probably have 50 differnt forms. ALL of these sites have a lot of educational materials, which I encourage you to absorb.


16 posted on 04/21/2010 10:29:01 AM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (Voters who thought their ship came in with 0bama are on their own Titanic.)
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To: BerserkPatriot
My thinking is that any savings we have in the bank will be eaten up by inflation or whatever, so the rationale is to at last use some of those savings as a hedge against future disaster.

That is what everyone else is thinking too : )

It appears to me the gold market is being manipulated and that the financial collapse we are watching is more deflationary than inflationary. The prices for everything except energy are going down.

Timing is everything, and it is impossible to time the markets : )

17 posted on 04/21/2010 10:33:36 AM PDT by LeGrande (Yes, I am an agent of Satan, but my duties are largely ceremonial.)
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Jewelry is the safest if you plan to use it for bartering. You can easily break a chain necklace into small pieces. Can’t do that so easily with bullion. Also, if you try to barter with bullion or bars, you’re pretty much advertising that you have gold stockpiled. But, if you pull, say, the wedding band off your finger and use it to but necessities, you look like just another desperate person. No one has to know that you have 5 more identical wedding rings in your pocket :p

Stores that sell jewelry making supplies usually have good prices on chains and bands. Try and get it as close to the market price-per-oz as you can find.

Another way would be to buy it as bullion or whatever, then learn to make it into jewelry. Again, simple wedding bands are easy and inconspicuous to use.


18 posted on 04/21/2010 10:53:39 AM PDT by Ellendra (Can't starve us out, and you can't make us run. . . -Hank Jr.)
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http://allamericangold.com/
19 posted on 04/21/2010 10:55:23 AM PDT by real saxophonist (The fact that you play tuba doesn't make you any less lethal. -USMC bandsman in Iraq)
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I have an account with APMEX. Traditional financial advice is to put 10% of your investments in Bullion. I recommend an in hand mix of silver and gold. The 10% figure is probably too low with the sovereign debt crisis.

Bullion is not an investment, but insurance that your capital will be maintained during high periods of inflation or fiat currency collapse.

Beans, Bandaids, Bullets and Bullion (4Bs)
20 posted on 04/21/2010 11:18:06 AM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the occupation media.)
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