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**Vanity** Future Doctors **Vanity**
3-22-10 | self

Posted on 03/22/2010 12:18:39 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA

What if you are planning to be a doctor right now?


TOPICS: Health/Medicine
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To: SoftballMominVA

Look into engineering.


41 posted on 03/22/2010 12:41:17 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (A government big enough to do unto the people you don't like will get to doing unto you soon enough.)
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To: SoftballMominVA

We are slaves to the government. That’s what the income tax is.

But hey, even around here you’re called a “kook” if you say you want to abolish the income tax and IRS.


42 posted on 03/22/2010 12:42:30 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (A government big enough to do unto the people you don't like will get to doing unto you soon enough.)
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To: SoftballMominVA

I wonder if there won’t be some countries that see an opportunity to get American trained doctors (which are the best in the world) in the near future and might do things that would entice them. It would be a shame for your daughter not to become a doctor if she wants to and can (and it sounds like she can). I never thought I’d say this, but the US isn’t the only place in the world.


43 posted on 03/22/2010 12:46:17 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: Argus

My youngest son lived in Costa Rica and loved it. Of course he’s fluent in Spanish.


44 posted on 03/22/2010 12:48:46 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: SoftballMominVA
I would say to any doc--if you can't retire, try to put together a nest egg in order to take a long sabbatical in 2014, at least a year. Because the transition is going to be pure hell as these insurance companies start going out of business, because there's no way they can stay in business. Doctors will find themselves scapegoated for all the misery that will ensue.

Unfortunately, that's about the time your daughter will be in residency.

And that includes those insurance companies that insure Congressman Judas Stupak and all the rest of the critters.

45 posted on 03/22/2010 12:49:14 PM PDT by Mamzelle (Cameras, cameras--never forget to bring your cameras)
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To: SoftballMominVA

My son is in his first year of being a Dr. He is 30. Med school 1 yeear internship 3 years residency. He is scared. His wife is also a Dr. Same class.


46 posted on 03/22/2010 12:51:22 PM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: OBXWanderer

I would be concerned about veterinary medicine too, since if the AR folks get their way there will be fewer and fewer pets, so the business will likely dry up. We can hope they are not successful, but they have had a good start all around the country getting laws passed inhibiting breeding (and I don’t mean puppy mills, I mean individuals).


47 posted on 03/22/2010 12:52:09 PM PDT by brytlea (Jesus loves me, this I know.)
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To: bushwon

—Why do you think nursing is “durable”—

A Nurse can find a Job
anywhere, anytime

It is entirely portable
Anywhere you are. it is possible to bring
kindness and caring to those you give yourself to


48 posted on 03/22/2010 12:52:21 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: HangnJudge

Being a P.A. is a pretty good job.


49 posted on 03/22/2010 12:52:32 PM PDT by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: HangnJudge

Well that was all true under the old paradigm, just not sure what the future holds for all medical personnel....


50 posted on 03/22/2010 12:54:38 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: bushwon

....just not sure what the future holds
for all medical personnel....

The Collapse of the Medical System
And the Economy
is now a mathmatical certainty

Not sure when, or the specific trigger
But the system will collapse

I suspect ~2015, maybe sooner


51 posted on 03/22/2010 12:59:04 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: SoftballMominVA

My daughter is in her second year of working on her PharmD. Her goal is to be a clinical pharmacist possibly specializing in diabetes. Pays as well as a Family Practice physician in our area. She considered med school, but felt that she wasn’t cut out for patient interaction (translation: doesn’t want to touch strangers, lol). Demand is still high for pharmacists. I’m not sure how clinical pharmacists will be affected by Obamacare.


52 posted on 03/22/2010 1:04:11 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: SoftballMominVA

To help control costs doctors will be brought in on a massive scale from such places as Bangladesh, Haiti etc. Congress and the higher levels of the Executive branch will obtain quality American doctors. The rest of us will have to ask the doctors we get to stop shaking the rattles while they speak a language we can’t understand.


53 posted on 03/22/2010 1:10:32 PM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: SoftballMominVA

The future is always uncertain.

Do what you love.


54 posted on 03/22/2010 1:24:43 PM PDT by Persevero (Ask yourself: "What does the Left want me to do?" Then go do the opposite.)
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To: OBXWanderer

My doc told me last week that everyone that voted for Obama deserves Obamacare. He is anticipating retirement.


55 posted on 03/22/2010 1:40:15 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: SoftballMominVA
I heard...or at least I think I heard...that the New England Journal of Medicine (the most respected medical periodical in the world) just released a poll of their (American) readers that showed that if HusseinCare passes something like 40% of "primary care" doctors in this country will consider leaving medicine.FORTY PERCENT!

If true that could represent a huge,*huge* warning sign for your daughter to become a software engineer rather than a physician.It could also mean that if she did go into medicine she wouldn't have any trouble getting a job.The only questions would be..."what will I make....what kind of work load will I have....will I be allowed to actually *help* my patients....what will it be like having the likes of Hussein The Blessed looking over my shoulder every minute I'm seeing patients?"

If your daughter's curious just about every public library subscribes to the NEJM so she can check the accuracy of my statement about the poll.

56 posted on 03/22/2010 2:34:17 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

She reads FR, so she’s seen your comment and told me you are 100% correct - she knew about it last week.

Have you read anything in this bill about forcing medical students into certain specialties? What she thinks she wants right now is to be in anesthology, but has an interest in cardiology. I think her worst fear is to get to med school, get through and then be told, there is a shortage of ER docs, so that’s what you are going to be or a shortage of Primary care docs, whatever.

Her attitude is that if she gives up her 20’s, takes on the debt necessary to be a doctor, she at least wants have say in her speciality.

She knows about how the residencies are assigned, but she plans on putting together a resume/CV/package that will give her some pull. Considering what she has done to date, I don’t think she will fail to present herself very well.


57 posted on 03/22/2010 4:01:42 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: MichiganConservative

Look into engineering.

She is currently taking Calc based Physics, which is for engineers and hard science majors - she’s not impressed with the brains on the engineering side of the room


58 posted on 03/22/2010 4:03:20 PM PDT by SoftballMominVA
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To: SoftballMominVA
Hmmm...where to begin.First,I have about 20 years of experience in hospital administration (major,big city hospital) so I know a bit about our health care system and the ins and outs of medical education.I'm certainly no expert but I'm far from clueless either.

OK....recently I saw a video clip of Hussein from about 5 years ago in which he said that his ultimate dream for this country is for us to have a health system that's just like Canada's.He said that it would be a long,difficult,multi-stage process but it should be "doable". My understanding is that Canada's health care system is a disaster area.Patients wait for *months* to see specialists...have operations...get MRIs,CT Scans,etc...get "advanced" treatments.Also,I think I recall having once talked to a Canadian medical/dental student who said that a physician's/dentist's life is highly "regimented" in Canada.Your daughter might be wise to research that point because,if true,it could someday seriously affect her here regarding her career freedom...something about which she's expressed concern...and reasonably so,IMO.I suppose I could go on expressing opinions/thoughts but I don't want to bore you. ;-)

One thing worth noting well,IMO,is this...that 40% figure from the recent NEJM survey could be even more significant than it first appears.Why? Because while this particular study only applies to "primary care" docs I think it's *quite* reasonable to assume that substantial percentages of docs in *every* specialty/sub specialty would have similar thoughts.So it could *very* well come to pass that US physicians,in general,will,en masse, "vote with their feet" on the subject of HusseinCare.And while your daughter's attitude may be different than mine (she may be far braver than me) when *I* see a large crowd running away from something I usually make it a policy not to run (or walk) *toward* what they're running *away* from.If ya catch my drift! ;-)

So part of her decision making process might involve her asking herself "knowing what I know about government bureaucrats/functionaries could I enjoy being one,and answering to many,for 40..50...60 years?"

59 posted on 03/22/2010 5:05:45 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Host The Beer Summit-->Win The Nobel Peace Prize!)
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To: SoftballMominVA

I was just going through several older threads and happened upon this one. I had to go to my Dr yesterday and asked the nurses what they thought about this HC bill.

They hate the bill and my Dr will probably retire and close his office. We live in a mostly retired community and he is the only medical provider within 20 miles.


60 posted on 03/23/2010 5:39:31 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (All comments about the current communist congress are now self censored.)
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