Now I recall why I included your name on this...
Posted on 03/22/2010 8:21:59 AM PDT by quesney
Tea Parties.
Limbaugh/Levin.
Blue Dogs.
Anti-Abortion Dems.
Yeah, whatever.
Nothing Accomplished.
Yawn.
Nothing accomplished. We keep losing every battle. All indications are, with immigration “reform” and more than 50% of Americans (and climbing) dependent on government, our votes could be diluted to nothing by 2012 (assuming we have a real election), the way things are going.
B-Chan, a prolific and wise Freeper, is right. It’s going to take the system collapsing financially under the weight of its own absurdity for real change to happen because Obama is correct in his judgment: The vast majority of Americans will bend over and will not seriously fight bigger, fatter, dumber government, including so-called "conservatives."
It'll take a financial crisis.
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I understand the frustration and your worries about the future.
However, a fair analysis should consider a careful a look at two high profile elections since November 2008: Republican Gov in New Jersey and Brown in Mass. Back in 2008 did anyone think a R would have a chance at winning either of these?
You act no different than a DU troll and b-chan is a narcissistic attention whore.
You are correct, RoseofTexas. This isn’t Waterloo. It’s the opening shot in the second Revolutionary War! There can be no doubt, none whatsoever, that we are facing an enemy within our own country.
I can’t remember a time in my life when Congress passed something so polarizing, so blatantly un-American, and so clearly against the will of a majority of voters. Methinks they went too far.
How foolish you are.
General Washington had to deal with idiots like you and despite of people like you the Founders revolted against tyranny.
But, hey, I get it.
For people like you, if it isn’t easy it isn’t possible.
Whoops, a little slip of the mask.
LOL. Yea I just sat on my ass. I have donated help and voted and got sh!t on by the republians. Now my fellow warriors are picking on us for seeing thru the BS. What is the difference whether the government takes my money or you donate it to the republicans? You are still losing your freedoms.
jessduntno: “Roll over then and present your posterior for the gratification of the socialists...I won’t be joining you.”
Well written, FRiend. I ain’t in no mood to present my “posterior for the gratification of the socialists” either. This is far from over.
Make sure some of your targets say NBC, CBS, CNN, and ABC.
Nonsense. Long before any politically significant number of people see benefits from Obamacare a majority will see the cost. The benefits don't start flowing for four years. By then the destruction of the insurance industry will have caused serious pain for many of us as the quality and quantity of medical services decline. There won't be any new freeloaders for years and in the mean time Obamacare will seriously annoy many of the old freeloaders as Medicare starts to absorb cuts. The welfare state can certainly create debilitating dependency, but that's going to work against Obamacare because it is such a serious threat to better established entitlements. Obamacare gives the government the choice between breaking their old promises or breaking their new ones. The old one are going to win out and Obamacare is going to go by the boards, soon.
Your defeatist cynicism isn't sophisticated or smart. It's juvenile and foolish. It's also destructive. If you can't find anything more useful to say, just stockpile ammunition, adjust your tinfoil helmet and maintain radio silence.
“LOL. Yea I just sat on my ass. I have donated help and voted and got sh!t on by the republians. Now my fellow warriors are picking on us for seeing thru the BS. What is the difference whether the government takes my money or you donate it to the republicans? You are still losing your freedoms.”
My point exactly. And my point isn’t not to fight. My point is, what we’ve been doing — Tea Parties/Palin/Libaugh/GOP Primaries/blah, blah, blah — DOES. NOT. WORK!
Agreed. Our time was not wasted.
You are 100% right, Quesney.
But don’t expect the truth to go over well. Too many of our fellow FReepers live in Website Wolverine La-La Land.
At least I didn't give myself a stupid handle like "dirtboy".
A great many things are beyond you, I suspect.
The wit was devastating. Thanks for proving my point, genius.
Now you went and made me do it. I’m (kind of) defending the GOP for the first time in a decade. Based on the numbers in congress, the GOP was totally powerless to stop this. What made this a 14 month battle instead of a 2 week skirmish was talk radio bringing the facts to the people.
The GOP did (finally) stick to it’s guns but was otherwise powerless. The people were opposed but ‘our’ government just ignored all of the rules and the people to shove this through.
The war is not over and I do believe that we will prevail.
“B-Chan is a friggin monarchist. Why ANYONE on this Constitution-centered website listens to him is beyond me.”
B-Chan’s point, I think, is that all democracies tend toward corruption and tyranny. The majority tends to be stupid, self-indulgent and easily deluded, voting itself ever more stuff (or deluded into doing so) at the expense of a minority until the entire system collapses on itself, with a lot of collateral damage between now and then.
I don’t want to agree with him about monarchy — enlightened dicators/kings are the blind luck of the draw — but look up the history of countries like Chile, and there’s a disturbing lesson there. Majority rule can be suicidal.
I acknowledge your compliment and return it. The fact that you recognize my genius marks you as a perceptive individual.
“The GOP did (finally) stick to it’s guns but was otherwise powerless. The people were opposed but ‘our’ government just ignored all of the rules and the people to shove this through.”
The GOP — including Bush — led us to this point. They paved the way to Obama by abandoning free market principles, binging on government spending and not reforming when they had the chance. There would have been no Obama if the GOP had presented itself as a true contrast. Now, any time they talk about the deficit or government spending, they have absolutely NO moral authority — Dems call them on it, and are right too, weakening the debate against socialism.
Republicans and their families grew fat on government largesse, just like the Dems, making people like Obama a much more palatable option than they would have otherwise been.
People, get a clue. The GOP led us to this disaster. Bush I/Dole/Bush II — all big government accommodators.
Now I recall why I included your name on this...
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