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Should commissioned officer servicewomen be capped at O-6?
February 20, 2010 | myknowledge

Posted on 02/20/2010 5:06:02 AM PST by myknowledge

I was wondering, that few militaries (like the United States) have women officers at flag rank (O-7 through to O-10).

In order to limit the number of women in the military, even in the commissioned officer ranks, I would suggest a capping, or 'glass ceiling' for officer servicewomen to O-6 (colonel or navy captain).

Do you think imposing a 'glass ceiling' on servicewomen is 'sexist'? Is it 'unpatriotic'?


TOPICS: Military/Veterans; Society
KEYWORDS: australia; captain; colonel; militaryrank; o6; usa
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Colonel (O-6)

Navy Captain (O-6)

1 posted on 02/20/2010 5:06:03 AM PST by myknowledge
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To: myknowledge

I miss your point - why cap women at 0-6?


2 posted on 02/20/2010 5:07:45 AM PST by usnavycdr
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To: myknowledge

No. I am not sure what you are trying to accomplish.


3 posted on 02/20/2010 5:08:05 AM PST by Perdogg ("Is that a bomb in your pants, or are you excited to come to America?")
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To: myknowledge

Are you talking about our country or your’s.

I think the US has moved beyond such stupid questions.


4 posted on 02/20/2010 5:08:33 AM PST by PeteB570 (Airborne, the only way to get to work in the morning.)
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To: myknowledge

I won’t judge on sexes, but how about limiting the rank of musicians?

Why should band members become field officers or zebras?


5 posted on 02/20/2010 5:08:35 AM PST by Loud Mime (Liberalism is a Socialist Disease)
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To: usnavycdr
Maybe the flag ranks are reserved for the male generals.

Traditionally, all successful generals were male and skilled at leadership. I'm not sending a sexist message, but I'm stating the historical truth.

6 posted on 02/20/2010 5:10:13 AM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: myknowledge

Retired Army Platoon Sergeant, here. I was a SOLDIER first, a PATRIOT second and a God-Fearing FEMALE, a distant third.

You, however, are an idiot.


7 posted on 02/20/2010 5:11:02 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (Save the Earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: myknowledge

Having worked for a female 0-8 (Major General) in the USMC, I will just say that your suggestion is without merit.


8 posted on 02/20/2010 5:11:08 AM PST by OwenKellogg (GOE 1, July 4, Sep 12, and Nov 7 DC rallies -- Energy, Tax Cuts, Lift American Spirits)
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To: myknowledge
Having regularly flown with a female pilot while in the Air Force who later became an 0-8 in the Air Force Reserves after commanding a squadron in Gulf War 1, again, your suggestion is without merit.
9 posted on 02/20/2010 5:14:10 AM PST by OwenKellogg (GOE 1, July 4, Sep 12, and Nov 7 DC rallies -- Energy, Tax Cuts, Lift American Spirits)
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To: myknowledge
Good luck with that.

Politicians and bureaucrats, whether uniformed or civilian, male, female or androgynous, will make these decisions. I think our armed forces were more effective before political correctness made them a tinkertoy for taxpayer funded sociological, bloc political posturing.

10 posted on 02/20/2010 5:17:36 AM PST by Mobties
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I started this thread as an intermediate compromise between those who oppose women being in the military and those who turn a blind eye to women in the military.

So I thought of this: limiting the highest commissioned officer rank to O-6 (Colonel / Navy Captain), as a compromise.

11 posted on 02/20/2010 5:17:44 AM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: myknowledge
In order to limit the number of women in the military [..] I would suggest a capping, or 'glass ceiling' for officer servicewomen to O-6. [...]

Why, for heaven's sake, would you suggest that? Just what do you think it would accomplish?

Do you think imposing a 'glass ceiling' on servicewomen is 'sexist'? Is it 'unpatriotic'?

No, just stupid.

Regards,

12 posted on 02/20/2010 5:19:54 AM PST by alexander_busek
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To: PeteB570

No. Anyone’s.


13 posted on 02/20/2010 5:20:21 AM PST by myknowledge (F-22 Raptor: World's Largest Distributor of Sukhoi parts!)
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To: myknowledge
This is my aunt with General Matt Ridgway...

She retired as an O-6. Years later while I was serving under any number of less than lustrous stars, I realized she'd have made a damn fine general officer.

14 posted on 02/20/2010 5:21:31 AM PST by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: myknowledge

I am opposed to women in combat units. However I have no problem with women generals.


15 posted on 02/20/2010 5:41:48 AM PST by taxcontrol
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To: myknowledge

If you have an actual cap on promotions then you no longer have a glass ceiling.


16 posted on 02/20/2010 5:51:17 AM PST by Eagle Eye (The last thing I want to do is hurt you, but it is still on my list.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Say it again.


17 posted on 02/20/2010 5:51:29 AM PST by tlb
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To: myknowledge

This is one of those “no win” threads. In a nutshell, if women are currently barred from direct combat duty, then they should be prohibited from commanding such a unit. There are however, many fields open to women all they way to the top. These selections are not usually taken lightly. They are well qualified officers in most cases, just like men.

Military officers on the “flag track” get different training, exposure, education, and respnsibilities. As a Navy vet, I don’t think I would want a woman commanding a carrier battle group. Not because she is arbitrarily unqualied due to gender, but because she doesn’t have the right “tickets” punched.

As long as the politicians dictate where women can serve (and this can change admin-to-admin), it makes little sense to groom a woman for a billet she may not be “allowed” to serve in.

(Dianna, I’m generally on your side, so go easy on me!)


18 posted on 02/20/2010 5:54:41 AM PST by CTOCS (I live in my own little world. But, it's okay. They know me there....)
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To: myknowledge

Just plain stupid. If they do the job correctly, promote them. I can’t believe this thread...


19 posted on 02/20/2010 6:00:28 AM PST by napscoordinator
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Good grief, Sarge, the poster was just floating an idea, not insulting women in the services, the way I see it.
You and I served so that people could be free to express such ideas...and insulting someone for a perceived “stupid” theory is just not worthy...
Think about it, won’t you.....and just freakin’ chill!


20 posted on 02/20/2010 6:18:14 AM PST by matginzac
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