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Swearing surgeon snaps over woman's 'lifestyle' choice.
ABC.news ^ | Feb 11, 2010 | Kerri Ritchie

Posted on 02/13/2010 7:43:42 PM PST by GSP.FAN

A surgeon in New Zealand has received a dressing down for swearing at a severely obese patient. The New Zealand Herald newspaper reports the doctor said "f..." at least three times after the 44-year-old obese woman told him she did not like the word "diet" and preferred the term "lifestyle".


TOPICS: Food; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: fat; health; healthy; lifestyle; likeabadhouseepisode; medicine; obese; weightloss
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To: GSP.FAN

“Ya think the doctor was being honest and accurate?”

Hell no. Diets did not work for this woman and she was seeking a surgical solution. He said “diet” she said “lifestyle change.” She is right. All who get this surgery are addressed in terms of changing their lifestyles - not going on “a diet.”


61 posted on 02/13/2010 10:45:03 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: Snurple

The doc was wrong. Diets did not work for this woman and that is why she needed bypass surgery. People in this condition are taught “lifestyle changes” - just was the patient said to the idiot doctor.


62 posted on 02/13/2010 10:46:51 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: 1010RD

She put it in his permanent medical record.


63 posted on 02/13/2010 10:55:00 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: goat granny

Dozy is a nice way of putting it. He is an enemy within.


64 posted on 02/13/2010 11:01:08 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: GSP.FAN

“LARD..
The gift from the gods..”

Ego. The gift from beneath.


65 posted on 02/13/2010 11:02:31 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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“She works fulltime, is a mother and reported swimming three times a week, but had repeatedly failed at dieting, quickly regaining weight after relapsing.

Dr B explained to her the necessity of patients changing their lifestyle and dieting if they were to shed kilos and maintain their new weight after the operation.

She told him she disliked the word “diet” and preferred to talk about “lifestyle”.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10625459&pnum=0 It’s the patient who has the problem.
If you were not provided a diet to follow before your surgery, you should not have been surgerized.

If you were on a diet first and failed, the following may have injured you:

author
endorser (expert who endorses another’s weight loss program)
publisher
media outlet (promoting the book or weight loss program)
media personality (touting the book or weight loss program)
physician
medical organization
nutritionist
dietitian
medical center
weight loss clinic
commercial weight loss company
pharmaceutical company
trainer
food company
If the diet:

reduced your daily caloric intake by 500 - 1000 Calories per day or more
advertised a 1 -2 pounds weight loss per week or more
had you eating fewer Calories per day than your basal metabolic rate (BMR)
claimed that to lose one pound per week you had to reduce your caloric intake by 500 Calories per day
claimed that to lose two pounds per week you had to reduce your caloric intake by 1000 Calories per day
reduced your daily caloric intake and advised you to exercise to burn 300 or more Calories per day
reduced your caloric intake and informed you that you can add muscle by exercising
claimed that one pound of muscle burns 35 or more Calories per day at rest
had a food product associated with it (e.g., bars, supplements, meals)
If before your surgery, you were either not on a diet or failed on a diet, then the following may have injured you:

your surgeon
the hospital
your referring physician
http://www.fitnesslaw.com/if_you_had_bariatric_surgery.htm


66 posted on 02/13/2010 11:06:10 PM PST by anglian
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If she didn’t like the advice, she could go elsewhere.

If your body mass index (BMI) is extremely high, it is likely that your physician will require you to lose weight prior to the surgery to reduce the amount of fat surrounding your abdomen. Many of the risks of the surgery are caused by obesity-related health problems. Consequently, this weight loss should help to reduce gastric bypass surgery complications.
Complications can include:

1. Bowel obstruction

2. Complications from anesthesia

3. Death

4. Deep vein thrombosis

5. Deficiency in proteins, vitamins and minerals

6. Dehiscence (the premature “bursting” open of a wound along surgical suture)

7. Gallstones

8. Gastrointestinal tract leak

9. Infections

10. Kidney stones and/or kidney failure

11. Leaks from staple line breakdown

12. Low blood sugars (hypoglycemia)

13. Marginal ulcers

14. Nerve problems

15. Post-surgery bleeding

16. Pulmonary embolism (a blockage of the main artery of the lung or one of its branches)

17. Spleen injury

18. Stenosis or stricture (abnormal narrowing in a blood vessel or other tubular organ or structure)

Of course, it is always preferable to avoid surgery by making an honest effort to eat properly and to exercise in sufficient amounts on a regular basis. Gastric bypass surgery complications can be avoided completely if you can simply avoid having the surgery through diet and exercise.
Gastric-Bypass-Site.com is an excellent place to find more advice about gastric bypass surgery complications. If you are worried about gastric bypass problems, it would be worth your time to check out this Gastric Bypass site.

http://ezinearticles.com/?Gastric-Bypass-Surgery-Complications-—19-Potential-Issues&id=3472220


67 posted on 02/13/2010 11:22:12 PM PST by anglian
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To: Hildy

Good for you! What I have seen is that when people keep harassing overweight people, shaming them all with the excuse of “good intention”, they are NOT helping, they are harming the overweight person. I’ve known more than one person who has been humiliated and that did not result in their losing weight. But when people finally gave up on them and stopped, then they went on diets they found for themselves and lost a great deal of weight. What works for one person, doesn’t necessarily work for another.

This woman in the article went to the doctor for help, and all he had to do is talk about lifestyle change to lose weight in addition to the gastric bypass surgery.

Instead, he cursed her out. That is not help, the woman may never again try to lose weight after that, fearing that the next doctor will be just as nasty.

The doctors swear that at least they should do no harm. What the doctor did was NOT helpful, it was harmful.

It wasn’t the question about the woman’s need to lose weight, or her wanting to do so, she needed the extra help, that’s why they invented gastric bypass.


68 posted on 02/13/2010 11:45:39 PM PST by SmartInsight
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To: GeronL

I am sorry GL I just don’t understand your response....I don’t usually have that problem with your replies...What is a NZ doctor. I can only think of New Zeland and don’t quite understand, please help me out here....


69 posted on 02/13/2010 11:52:37 PM PST by goat granny
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To: GeronL

Oops went back to the beginning of the article posted, now I understand what you were saying Duh to me...


70 posted on 02/13/2010 11:53:50 PM PST by goat granny
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To: GSP.FAN

Now that is a funny post....:O) I have fired a few doctors in my day also...but I have had decades of practice..


71 posted on 02/13/2010 11:57:20 PM PST by goat granny
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To: Hildy

Coddling, cruelty and abuse are all different things.


72 posted on 02/14/2010 12:08:53 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

Sorry for my not understanding of what you mean by enemy within..Sometimes people have to get hit with reality that they deny.. Morbid obesity is not being fat, its being deadly fat...


73 posted on 02/14/2010 12:12:10 AM PST by goat granny
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To: GeronL

Best post of this thread.


74 posted on 02/14/2010 12:24:47 AM PST by antceecee (Bless us Father.. have mercy on us and protect us from evil.)
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To: SaraJohnson; Hildy
Hell no. Diets did not work for this woman and she was seeking a surgical solution. He said “diet” she said “lifestyle change.” She is right. All who get this surgery are addressed in terms of changing their lifestyles - not going on “a diet.”

Gastric bypass surgery is nothing but a surgically-imposed diet, in this case a reduction in caloric intake. This was a topic of study in the human nutrition/nutritional biology doctoral program at the University of Chicago. The so-called lifestyle change as the result of the surgery is that because the stomach volume has been reduced to something like the first two fingers eating too much (or too many carbohydrates) results in dumping. This is usually such a horrible experience that a single episode is all it takes to keep a patient on the road to the straight and narrow. And the weird thing is that there are people undergoing this procedure who still cheat, like a woman who crushed potato chips and grazed on the crumbs continuously.

Besides, the talk of the "lifestyle change" is an example of the self-deception that is at the heart of eating disorders. It is basically saying, "I don't want to have the responsibility and have to make the effort to change my lifestyle of consuming excess calories and adopt a lifestyle that will result in my losing weight. I want surgery to impose a condition on me that will have an effect no matter what I may want to eat."
75 posted on 02/14/2010 12:46:16 AM PST by aruanan
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To: goat granny

Yea, it was in New Zealand.


76 posted on 02/14/2010 1:00:42 AM PST by GeronL (Dignity is earned from yourself. Respect is earned from others.)
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To: goseminoles

I am plenty of things; fat ain’t one of ‘em.


77 posted on 02/14/2010 6:47:30 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

;o)


78 posted on 02/14/2010 6:54:49 AM PST by goseminoles
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To: SmartInsight

“How would any of you like it, if people you are hiring to perform a service would curse you out?”

Sometimes people need a knot jerked in them. The woman didn’t get obese overnight and had probably spent years tinkering with diets and whining to doctors who in turn soothed her with flowery language about lifestyles.

I wouldn’t like it, but I’d sure sit up and listen if I was told flat out that I was fat and lazy and that it was my own fault. And to GO ON A DIET. Plain, direct language doesn’t happen very often any more and that probably shocked her more than anything.


79 posted on 02/14/2010 7:04:49 AM PST by Nickname (2012 - Yes You're Canned!)
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To: SaraJohnson
Diets did not work for this woman and that is why she needed bypass surgery.

Bzzzzzt! Wrong! Nowhere was it said that diets don't work. They do, and I've seen them work. I'm like you, never had an overweight problem, but as a nurse I've seen patients with self-discipline and a desire to live a better life knuckle down to diet and exercise, and THEY lose weight.

Diets work fine for people who don't cheat. And the cheaters are clear: they're still fat.

80 posted on 02/14/2010 7:19:42 AM PST by Judith Anne
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