Posted on 01/09/2010 1:39:54 PM PST by GaltTrader
We are doing our annual review of emergency preparedness supplies and procedures. One possible situation is closure of commercial ammunition sources during a civil unrest situation.
We would appreciate opinions on the most likely and second most likely available hand gun ammo in such a situation.
Where I am umgud is right-.40 S&W is always on the shelf. My policy has been for every time I shoot I buy two boxes. One box I shoot, the other box goes in the closet.
Not to start an argument, but I know better.
If you are pushing a 357/158 upwards of 2200 FPs from a carbine lever gun (30/30 pushes a 150 at the same...), PLEASE let em know what ranges you frequent so I can avoid the hand grenade....
Think it through, your commonality of ammo is a handicap-pick a fighting handgun caliber, and a fighting rifle caliber (plus maybe a 12 ga close in crowd gun), and stow a dozen mags worth of each, maybe a few hundred more in an ammo can, forget the thousands upon thousands that some suggest.
the rest is for fun and foe.
I don't go to any range.
The math:
.357 mag, 158 grain SP, 1825fps (really pushing pressures...) 18 inch carbine:
(158/7000)(1825 squared)/64.32= 1169 ft lb
30/30 150 grain SP 2190fps, 18 inch carbine:
(150/7000)(2190 squared)/64.32= 1598 ft lb
430 ft lbs is 27% more energy in the 30/30....
If it really boils down to preference, be my guest, but don’t think the 357 carbine is in the same league as a true rifle cartridge.
Yup
The government ordered 200 million rounds of .40 cal ammo this year from Winchester.
A year or so ago, I probably would have said 38 special ammo would be the easiest thing to get, but it seems to be in short supply most places.
there seems to be a decent supply of 9 mm & 45 acp at the moment.
The steel lip Ruger 10/22 mags are even better.
Emergency preparedness should include using that ammo at a local shooting match.
Yep
Hey, that movie was on last night! I happened to walk by the TV, saw it, and immediately went into a fugue state.
In a fashion, Teerminator may be the penultimate survivalist movie of all time.
Any way, my answer: .223 loose, in green ammo boxes: Every household should have at least one full ammo box for every AR in the house.
also, .40 cal for the girls and for CQC. I was at the gun show last week and saw shot shells for my .40 Walther, ostensibly for snakes ans such, however I envision it for "hallway scenarios" wherein I do not want to kill my neighbor with a pass-through round. I do not know about pellet sizes, but the box said every cartridge has approx 100 pellets, which must mean they are grain-of-sand sized.
I totally agree. It is also quite possibly the most powerful pro-life movie ever made.
One "accidental" child ends up saving the entire remainder of the human race after a failed attempt at his murder by an evil super-mind.
And in a "SHTF" situation, there will be plenty of both laying all over the ground.
Well said. Now may be the time to organize neighborhood/local "well regulated militia." Make sure they are prepared, too.
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