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Laughing Out Loud...what a bunch of crooks!
1 posted on 11/29/2009 5:17:05 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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I.E.> they only kept the modified data...

So no other Scientists can argue with their conclusions....


2 posted on 11/29/2009 5:21:56 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

What BS! We already had enough sense to know it was junk science and the e-mails proved it.

Sorry UN, you do not get to tell us what we see and know with our own eyes. Take a hike!


3 posted on 11/29/2009 5:22:17 PM PST by RowdyFFC (The opinion of a wise Welshtino woman...)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Just more evidence that the real agenda isn’t saving the climate, but controlling the world.

This is the biggest fraud going. Bigger than Madoff and Enron and every other financial scandal in history COMBINED!!

Arrest!Prosecute! Imprison! That is what we do to frauds and extortionists in America.


4 posted on 11/29/2009 5:24:09 PM PST by o_zarkman44
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

This is what we get when tax dollars are used to support scientific studies with a political motive.


5 posted on 11/29/2009 5:24:46 PM PST by 1776 Reborn (Test kids and politicians (bigger idiots) on the Constitution!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Show of hands, now....

Who here has ever actually been shilled by college profs in such as way as to indicate that the ONLY appropriate theories were leftist/marxist? C’mon.....

Who here KNOWs college profs who dare not breathe a conservative word?

Who here has HEARD college profs confide something to effect that “we have to get them indoctrinated young?”


6 posted on 11/29/2009 5:24:58 PM PST by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spirito Sancto.)
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Beam me to Planet Gore !

8 posted on 11/29/2009 5:26:15 PM PST by steelyourfaith (Time to prosecute Al Gore now that fellow scam artist Bernie Madoff is in stir.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
He can spin any way he wants for the public.....but real scientists are going to be angry. Especially those who based other research on their "fake" findings....those who based research on "lost" data.

Spinning for the public will not convince the scientific community. The people who they have been bashing down for years will now have their chance to speak out and bring this facade down.

The IPCC findings are useless.
9 posted on 11/29/2009 5:27:32 PM PST by Arkinsaw
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

LOL!

Cue the Monte Python Black Knight duel sketch.

“Its just a flesh wound”

Pass the popcorn, please.


10 posted on 11/29/2009 5:28:04 PM PST by Mobties
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

In the old Soviet Union, they used to swear that their elections were not rigged. Of course, each office only had one candidate running, and all party members were expected to vote. But, hey, it was a fair election. Trust us.


11 posted on 11/29/2009 5:28:47 PM PST by Rocky (Obama's ego: The "I's" have it.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
some written as long as 13 years ago

and some written as recently as 13 days ago...

12 posted on 11/29/2009 5:30:26 PM PST by Rocky (Obama's ego: The "I's" have it.)
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In one e-mail, confirmed by the university as genuine, a scientist jokingly referred to ways of ensuring papers which doubted established climate science did not appear in the AR4.

Jokingly! Seriously, I was just kidding.

13 posted on 11/29/2009 5:32:03 PM PST by Rocky (Obama's ego: The "I's" have it.)
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In one e-mail, confirmed by the university as genuine, a scientist jokingly referred to ways of ensuring papers which doubted established climate science did not appear in the AR4.

Jokingly, uh huh. Just a joke. Ha-hah, move along now...

15 posted on 11/29/2009 5:33:31 PM PST by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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The new liberal description of Scientific Method -- When you don't like the results of your experiment do one or more of the following:

1) Declare consensus

2) Change the data

3) Produce phony movies

4) Make lots of noise so you can pretend to not hear what you are being told

5) Change the rules of the game after the fact

6) Hire trial lawyers to sue for slander, damages and trial lawyer fees

7) Bury your head in the sand

8) Go to Copenhagen

17 posted on 11/29/2009 5:39:11 PM PST by immadashell
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Related thread:

The Missing Hotspot ---The ‘Hotspot’ is crucial to the climate debate.

*********************************EXCERPT INTRO************************************

If greenhouses gases are warming the planet that warming will happen first in the cold blob of air 8-12 km above the tropics. It’s freezing cold up there, but it ought to be slightly less freezing cold thanks to greenhouse gases. All 20-odd climate models predict warming there first—it’s the fingerprint of greenhouse gas warming, as opposed to warming by some other cause, like solar magnetic effects, volcanic eruptions, solar irradiance, or ozone depletion etc etc.

***********************************************

See the Graphs at JoNova website

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Look at A above, the greenhouse gas fingerprint is markedly different from the rest and dominates the overall predicted pattern in graph F. The big problem for the believers of AGW is that years of radiosonde measurements can’t find any warming, as shown in part E of Figure 5.7 in section 5.5 on page 116 of the US CCSP 2006 report

*************************************

Is there any way the missing hot-spot doesn’t fatally kill the greenhouse theory?

Perhaps we’re looking in the wrong spot and the hot-spot is lurking somewhere else?

If we are, that gets us right back to square one. The theory of greenhouse gas warming depends on finding a hotter spot of air above the equator… if that hot spot is somewhere else, the greenhouse theory itself collapses in a heap. It means either the greenhouse effect is not causing much of the recent warming, or the greenhouse theory is just plain wrong. AGW supporters are not asking this question because they can’t win either way.

Possibly we just can’t measure the air temperatures accurately enough to find the hot-spot?

Maybe, but we’ve been recording temperatures up there repeatedly for decades, and it’s not that the hot-spot is weak—it’s absent. There is no sign at all.

AGW says: Santer and Sherwood have found the missing hot spot.

Skeptics say: Santer uses statistics to show that the hot spot might be hidden under the noise. He hasn’t found any sign of warming–just the sign of fog in the results. Sherwood ignores the thermometers altogether and uses wind gauges to tell us the temperature. (Who’d a thought?!)

On my blog there’s more answers to the claims that the hot spot is not missing here.

See all posts tagged “Missing Hot Spot”

The bottom line is that either the thermometers are wrong or the theory is.

On David Evans site there’s a full definitive explanation of the missing hot spot and all the common attempts to rebut it on one pdf here (25 pages). If you can’t open it in Mozilla try Explorer.

18 posted on 11/29/2009 5:39:48 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ( Support Geert Wilders)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Latest Weather Channel headline:
GORE’S GLOBAL FLATULENCE HACKED! GORE VOWS TO EAT MORE BEANS!


19 posted on 11/29/2009 5:39:50 PM PST by rusureitflies? (OSAMA BIN LADEN IS DEAD! There, I said it. Prove me wrong.)
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22 posted on 11/29/2009 6:01:44 PM PST by 444Flyer (You're either with us and our falsely accused Navy Seals, or you're with the terrorists.)
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"This private communication in no way damages the credibility of the AR4 findings," he told Reuters in an email exchange.

If the email is on public servers paid for with taxpayer dollars, they are not private.

An overt, explicit, inescapable, baldface LIE by the 2nd word.

It cannot damage the credibility, since they never had credibility to begin with.

Vermin.

23 posted on 11/29/2009 6:05:22 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Ha, untarnished in their own eyes, perhaps.


25 posted on 11/29/2009 6:20:49 PM PST by bboop
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**”Delete all emails related to AR4”**

Hmm, sounded pretty bad to me

I think we need a graphic of the AR4 Report as toilet paper.


28 posted on 11/29/2009 6:27:06 PM PST by dila813
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Its only a flesh wound!


30 posted on 11/29/2009 6:28:03 PM PST by jd777
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