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Speak Now, Tiger, Or Forever Hold Your Peace
NBCSports ^ | November 28th 2009

Posted on 11/28/2009 9:20:17 PM PST by Steelfish

Speak Now, Tiger, Or Forever Hold Your Peace Golfer must speak publicly about car crash — and rumors of Uchitel affair

Courtney Hazlett

When Tiger Woods got in the car just before 2:25 a.m. Friday, he didn’t just crash into a fire hydrant. He had a head-on collision with another object: the invisible bowels of the bad-publicity machine, which in more than 13 years of professional golf, he’d been able to avoid.

As a college athlete in the mid-1990s, my circle overlapped with Woods’ from time to time, and I can attest there are plenty of stories about a slightly awkward Stanford golfprodigy that could be filed under “typical college kid behavior,” or twisted into tabloid fodder.

As a fledgling journalist at Golf World magazine in the early 2000s, I can attest to similar stories of the youngest golfer to achieve a career grand slam behaving in a way that might have looked bad on paper.

But these stories never really materialized. Thrown clubs and the errant F-bombs were chalked up to pressures of the sport and apologies followed. So why has an accident in the driveway turned into a full-blown train wreck? Because much like a guy named David Letterman, up until now Woods’ public life and private persona have had few intersections, and the former has been for the most part, unimpeachable.

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Sports
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To: ktscarlett66
I just keep wondering - why does he need to do anything about a relatively minor fender bender?

I agree. The media is trying to make a mountain out of a molehill. So the carpet got stuck on the gas peddle. Just leave the guy alone...and I hate golf.

121 posted on 11/29/2009 3:06:24 AM PST by chainsaw (If you think health care is expensive now, wait until you see what it costs when it's free! -- P.J..)
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To: Steelfish
He had a head-on collision with another object: the invisible bowels of the bad-publicity machine, which in more than 13 years of professional golf, he’d been able to avoid.

The unasked question here is about why he didn't get any bad publicity before.

I would contend it's an offshoot of the "magic Negro effect."

Don't say anything bad about a black person, especially one doing otherwise admirable things, as they have enough negatives in their life to deal with anyway.

I don't hold this effect against Tiger, who has admirably refused to play any race cards. It's a media and liberal thing. But I repeat myself.

This refusal to hold black people to the same standard as others has had horrible effects in the black community. Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and ACORN have gotten away for decades with behavior that would have destroyed a non-black person's career, if not put them in jail.

The effect has been slowly disippating for some years. The interesting thing is that since the election of Obama it seems to be disappearing much faster. Hard to hold onto the notion that a black man can't get ahead when he's president. For instance, the whole Professor Gates thing is the first example I can think of where the race card was played and it bounced like a bad check.

122 posted on 11/29/2009 3:11:35 AM PST by Sherman Logan ("The price of freedom is the toleration of imperfections." Thomas Sowell)
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To: jessduntno

When my husband totaled his pickup a few years ago he also totaled a guard rail. We received a bill for $4500 from the State of TN to have the guard rails replaced. Insurance covered it but I know the State of TN charges you for damage to state property caused by a traffic accident.


123 posted on 11/29/2009 4:09:20 AM PST by Melinda in TN
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To: MinorityRepublican

Do we really need prosecutors getting involved? I’m referring to the alleged Elin-Tiger confrontation, not the property damage involving the Car & the neighbor’s landscaping...


124 posted on 11/29/2009 7:28:10 AM PST by Tallguy ("The sh- t's chess, it ain't checkers!" -- Alonzo (Denzel Washington) in "Training Day")
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To: StolarStorm

Where did I say *criminal* charges? When there are civil lawsuits, people file for emotional pain and suffering etc. So it’s already there in the legal system. People used to file for divorce for ‘mental cruelty’. That’s emotional. Maybe you weren’t aware of that?


125 posted on 11/29/2009 7:38:55 AM PST by ktscarlett66 (Face it girls....I'm older and I have more insurance....)
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To: BunnySlippers

No, the police have a duty to press charges against his wife. If there is domestic violence the law is someone has to go to jail for 24 hours. Plenty of men are caught in this, and I don’t think the double standard is fair. If she engaged in domestic violence, she should be arrested.


126 posted on 11/29/2009 7:42:08 AM PST by Mom MD (Jesus is the Light of the world!)
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To: ktscarlett66
You're right, I misread your comments. However, you will be opening a huge Pandoras box if you allow lawsuits for emotional distress in marriages. How far do you go back? Relationships are messy and its impossible for a court or jury to know who started what.

There ARE worse things you can do to a spouse than cheating (I know... some of those things have been done to me) ... so where do you draw the line? Its just too convoluted for the state to be involved in such issues.... just too subjective in nature and open to biases.

As for your personal issues.... you really need to get a grip on the whole issue. Trust me, there really are worse betrayals than cheating. Granted some people are so fixated on the subject of sex, that they can't conceive of that...

Your insecurity is driving your anger and hurt. Be proud of who you are. And if you can't get over it, move on. Your current emotional situation is not tenable. You will just make yourself sick. Get over it or move on.
127 posted on 11/29/2009 8:16:01 AM PST by StolarStorm
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To: Star Traveler
Now , now be nice!!! Whenever you have the least doubt, the first words are “I want to speak to my attorney”.
128 posted on 11/29/2009 9:33:25 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Yaelle

Happens all the time.


129 posted on 11/29/2009 9:34:09 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: org.whodat
"No he don’t, he doesn’t even need to talk to the cops about it."

While he doesn't have to speak to the cops about it, the state of Florida doesn't have to give him an operator's license either. If Tiger doesn't eventually talk to the police, he'll surely lose his license.

130 posted on 11/29/2009 9:49:44 AM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: ktscarlett66

And what if she KILLS Tiger the next time......the police would be in VERY BIG TROUBLE for letting this slide. If the rolls were reversed........


131 posted on 11/29/2009 9:52:22 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: FTJM

How do you know he was sitting in his vehicle when he supposedly called his friend......who then immediately called a news source to post it on the internet? Do you really believe that? If he called his friend couldn’t he have done it earlier? Doubt that internet gossip can really can be considered a good source. Oh, in your living room trial that is a good source.

I will hand it to you. You are good. You have enough facts to put someone on trial and convict them from the leisure of your home without responding to the scene and talking to anyone.

We will see if he gets charged. Doubt that he will...which, in this country, last time I checked, means your innocent.


132 posted on 11/29/2009 9:53:06 AM PST by MGUNZ
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To: kik5150

His name is Eldrich, I think.


133 posted on 11/29/2009 9:54:36 AM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion,,,,,,the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: OldDeckHand
Wrong on all counts!!! Tell me have those cops ever questioned the Ramsey about their daughter found dead in their basement.

The courts ruled long ago that a person has a right to transportation. That is why they give drunks limited usage permits.

134 posted on 11/29/2009 9:59:30 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Steelfish

It’s a well documented fact that when it comes to women, it’s a hell of a lot easier to get forgiveness than it is to get permission.


135 posted on 11/29/2009 10:01:40 AM PST by Ted Grant
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To: org.whodat
"Wrong on all counts!!! Tell me have those cops ever questioned the Ramsey about their daughter found dead in their basement. The courts ruled long ago that a person has a right to transportation. That is why they give drunks limited usage permits. "

When you apply for and receive your motor vehicle operator's license, something attaches called "implied consent". While you're protected by the 5th Amendment and can't be made to incriminate yourself, you partially waive some of that protection with your application for a license. It's what gives the police the right to draw your blood, by force if necessary, if they suspect you of drinking and driving. Laws vary from state to state, but usually, when there's an injury accident - as is the case here - the most police are given, by law, the most latitude. Also, if you refuse a BAC or even to answer questions, then your driver's license may and will be limited, suspended or revoked. It happens everyday of the week in courtrooms all across America.

136 posted on 11/29/2009 10:08:19 AM PST by OldDeckHand (Obamacare - So bad, even Joe Lieberman isn't going to vote for it.)
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To: OldDeckHand
It can be limited and that is all, the rest of it is pure BS. When the Man says see my attorney, game over.
137 posted on 11/29/2009 10:17:38 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: OldDeckHand

Left out the fact that the cops has to physical be able to confirm you were in the car and you were operating the car. There have been many cases where a drunk was under the wheel of a wrecked car, buy he was smart enough to throw the keys away and he was not convicted.


138 posted on 11/29/2009 10:21:20 AM PST by org.whodat
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To: Steelfish

It just goes to show,that some people don’t deserve to be rich and famous!


139 posted on 11/29/2009 10:22:13 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
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To: Ann Archy
And what if she KILLS Tiger the next time.

Last night I was still believing she only smashed the back of his car as he left, after scratching him with her hand. Now that I hear his passenger and back seat windows were also smashed, I think she WAS going for him with a deadly weapon. I think she needs to fess up and do her community service or whatever.

140 posted on 11/29/2009 10:26:18 AM PST by Yaelle
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