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How Ayn Rand Became an American Icon The perverse allure of a damaged woman.
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Posted on 11/03/2009 12:13:51 AM PST by Tempest

Ayn Rand is one of America's great mysteries. She was an amphetamine-addicted author of sub-Dan Brown potboilers, who in her spare time wrote lavish torrents of praise for serial killers and the Bernie Madoff-style embezzlers of her day. She opposed democracy on the grounds that "the masses"—her readers—were "lice" and "parasites" who scarcely deserved to live. Yet she remains one of the most popular writers in the United States, still selling 800,000 books a year from beyond the grave. She regularly tops any list of books that Americans say have most influenced them. Since the great crash of 2008, her writing has had another Benzedrine rush, as Rush Limbaugh hails her as a prophetess. With her assertions that government is "evil" and selfishness is "the only virtue," she is the patron saint of the tea-partiers and the death panel doomsters. So how did this little Russian bomb of pure immorality in a black wig become an American icon?

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TOPICS: Books/Literature; Business/Economy; Education; Society
KEYWORDS: ayn; aynrand; rand; religiousbaiting
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To: Tempest

Why won’t you answer the question? Why do you change the subject? If you haven’t read it just say so.


81 posted on 11/03/2009 2:48:52 AM PST by fellowpatriot
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To: Tempest
I take it you didn’t read the article...


And so what if he hasn't? Surely if you can pass judgment on Ayn Rand's works, comparing them to Mein Kampf of all things(!), without reading so much as a single syllable, then he can certainly pass judgment on this article without having bothered to have read any of it.
82 posted on 11/03/2009 2:58:14 AM PST by Optimus Prime (Do liberals even qualify as sentient beings?)
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To: Tempest
This is as far as I read:

she is the patron saint of the tea-partiers and the death panel doomsters

pretty much explains the gist of the article and all the Ayn Rand bashing thats been going on lately.

83 posted on 11/03/2009 2:58:59 AM PST by fellowpatriot
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To: Tempest
If you haven't read her work, your criticism means nothing to anyone who has.

If all you know is what others have told you, your criticism won't mean much to them either.

What is the important point you are trying to make about an author you haven't read?

84 posted on 11/03/2009 2:59:33 AM PST by muir_redwoods (Obama: The Fresh Prince of Bill Ayers)
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To: TigersEye

A person who doesn’t have to read Rand’s works to know that they are ‘objectionable’ suffers from the same blindness as those who condemn Rush Limbaugh for what he supposedly “said”, but haven’t actually listened to his show...


85 posted on 11/03/2009 3:15:07 AM PST by Zeppo (Save the cheerleader, save the world...)
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To: dangus

So just to make sure I got this straight... you are ok with the six billion people starving and being destroyed from within right?

It’s interesting that you say the book is “Hate-Filled”, I believe the book is a work of genesis. A creation, but instead of having a blank slate, something must cause the masses to realize they deserve nothing, but that which they earn. And being bound and gagged by the masses so they can have something for nothing by your labor and mind is the very collectivist theme we face today, and not just in the world as a whole but across the USA.

From your tone, I get the sense that you think it’s hate to let people burn in their own creations?

Maybe you can clear this up for us?


86 posted on 11/03/2009 3:31:11 AM PST by light-bulb (Plures efficimur quotiens metimur a vobis; semen est sanguis Christianorum)
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To: Tempest

We each use the gifts we are given. Rand was a writer, and Mr. King was a spiritual leader. I’m sure if you started digging you’ll find out that King was “just a man” and had MANY faults of his own. I know it’s shocking that a woman could actually have faults, you know like enjoying her body, etc. Shocking!

What is your point?

Do you find one better than the other? Clearly if you look at success I’d say King failed overall and now we have a population that is largely not self-sufficient yet places the blame on someone else...

Yea... I’m thinking we need to actually identify what success should have looked like.


87 posted on 11/03/2009 3:38:02 AM PST by light-bulb (Plures efficimur quotiens metimur a vobis; semen est sanguis Christianorum)
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To: Tempest

Wow no bias or antipathy in the opening to this screed.


88 posted on 11/03/2009 3:42:22 AM PST by doodad
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To: light-bulb
So just to make sure I got this straight... you are ok with the six billion people starving and being destroyed from within right?

First of all, that is an over-simplification of what transpires in the book.

But, yes, as a matter of fact I am, especially since those six million people pulled the food from their own mouths. That doesn't mean I don't feel for their suffering. But I do believe in consequences for one's actions, and those six million people are responsible, ultimately, for their own starvation.

But then you would know that, having read the book and understanding how those six million people got to that point, right?

89 posted on 11/03/2009 3:50:06 AM PST by Abundy
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To: light-bulb
So just to make sure I got this straight... you are ok with the six billion people starving and being destroyed from within right?

First of all, that is an over-simplification of what transpires in the book.

But, yes, as a matter of fact I am, especially since those six million people pulled the food from their own mouths. That doesn't mean I don't feel for their suffering. But I do believe in consequences for one's actions, and those six million people are responsible, ultimately, for their own starvation.

But then you would know that, having read the book and understanding how those six million people got to that point, right?

90 posted on 11/03/2009 3:50:43 AM PST by Abundy
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To: light-bulb; dangus

sorry, that double post (how that happened is beyond me) was meant for dangus


91 posted on 11/03/2009 3:52:09 AM PST by Abundy
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To: Tempest

You cannot possibly be as ignorant as you represent yourself on this thread.

So what’s your game, tempest in a chamber pot?


92 posted on 11/03/2009 3:54:26 AM PST by headsonpikes (Genocide is the highest sacrament of socialism - "Who-whom?")
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To: Talisker
But I won't do any research for you. You can either take me at my word, travel to Russia to research Dostoevsky's original papers, or... hmmm... use Google?

.... Nikolai Google?

93 posted on 11/03/2009 4:00:41 AM PST by Erasmus (He's so dumb, he thinks Unicorn is an Agribusiness.)
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To: Tempest
Rand was clearly mentally ill. So what if she wrote against Bolshevism? Intelligent people shouldn't require the pretentious rantings of a lunatic to know the sun rises in the east.

The one thing I didn't like about the article was that it made no mention of the virulent atheism which was as central to her deranged philosophy as it was to her diseased mind.

94 posted on 11/03/2009 4:01:49 AM PST by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: Tempest
Rand's Objectivism is an attempt at forming a rational and cogent and therefore ultimately practical political philosophy without God. It utterly fails, predictably.

America's political philosophy has proven to be very successful, however. "We hold these truths to be self-evident..."

What a shame that we have to so great a degree abandoned it.

What glorious freedom and security and prosperity our posterity could enjoy if we would reembrace it.

95 posted on 11/03/2009 4:05:47 AM PST by EternalVigilance (In NY-23, in mere weeks, the GOP went from 1st party, to 3rd party, to the vanishing point. *Poof*)
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To: Tempest
Money was her god.

She had the morals of an alley cat in heat.

Too much attention is paid to a trashy, selfish woman consumed with money on her mind. Her inner circle abandoned her as well. Now we have other idiots impressed with her. Who is really surprised? They are as narcissistic, selfish and preoccupied with money as she was. She was a pathetic souls as many today are - so they relate to her. Her condition is quite common in our culture today.

96 posted on 11/03/2009 4:24:11 AM PST by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: Tempest

John Denver smoked pot. Yet, I still liked his music. When I was a pre-teen and found out he smoked pot, boy, I was really disappoited. Then I grew up and still liked his music.


97 posted on 11/03/2009 4:29:43 AM PST by 50sDad (The Left cannot understand life is not in a test tube. Raise taxes, & jobs go away.)
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To: Carley

Slate hates it. Must be something good in it.


98 posted on 11/03/2009 4:30:16 AM PST by 50sDad (The Left cannot understand life is not in a test tube. Raise taxes, & jobs go away.)
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To: SamAdams76

Good points!


99 posted on 11/03/2009 4:31:12 AM PST by Vanders9
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Quite an interesting thread...so far.


100 posted on 11/03/2009 4:44:22 AM PST by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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