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The most pretentious science fiction - fantasy TV shows
November 2, 2009

Posted on 11/02/2009 3:09:41 PM PST by EveningStar

Here are my selections for the most pretentious science fiction - fantasy TV shows (RELAX - THE CYNICISM IS ALL IN FUN!):

5. Buffy the Vampire Slayer (1997 - 2003) - Pretty much a chick series.

4. V (original - including miniseries' - 1983 - 1985) - Nazi lizard people invade the earth.

3. Alien Nation (1989 - 1990) - A message series with one message - racism is evil. We get it. Next. (amazingly enough, this series spawned five made for TV movies, which were viewed by all 500 of its fans)

2. Beauty and the Beast (1987 - 1990) - Nauseatingly sappy

1. Babylon 5 (1993 - 1998) - Yeah, I know that "true science fiction fans" like this series because J. Michael Straczynski is a fan of literary SF - and named a Psi Cop "Alfred Bester." Big deal.

I never saw the re-imagined Battlestar Galactica, but from what I've read about it, it definitely would have made my list.

OK. Those are my picks. How about yours?


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: fantasy; pretentious; sciencefiction; scifi; sf
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To: MS.BEHAVIN
I didn't realize until after the series ended, that the Jim Henson Company was responsible for all the costuming and makeup for live actors, and the other two were basically Muppets: Rygel, the pompous, levitating alien I mentioned, and Pilot, the insectoid that guided the sentient ship Moya.

That plant-based female character who really got off on sunbathing was interesting, too.

141 posted on 11/02/2009 6:14:40 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RikaStrom
Ok, this one is going to age me. Does anyone remember Blake’s 7?

Sure. But that's not that old. You're talking to a guy who owns all 48 episodes of Space:1999

142 posted on 11/02/2009 6:14:50 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: EveningStar
I'd have to agree with about, oh....., NONE of your list. (But, in fairness, I never really watched Alien Nation, nor saw the original movie. My brother liked it.)

Buffy? Took the High School is Hell metaphor to extremes. Never too itself too seriously. And I enjoyed it even though it contained all those things that we good Catholics don't believe in, such as vampires, demons, witches and lesbians.
Granted, the Magic=Drugs bit got really old, really fast.

V, the original miniseries, was a damn fine piece of work, and would've been good even if they hadn't been forced to make it a SF movie with alien Nazis. The second miniseries was good, but had a stinky ending. Wouldn't call it pretentious. The series was a huge, heaping load and belongs in the ashcan reserved for "Highlander 2".

Beauty and the Beast -- that was a chick show that guys could watch. Cop drama in season one, underground society in season two. Bit of a mess in season three.

Babylon 5 -- The SF series that gave us the overarching storylines. A five-year plan that really was a five-year plan (that got shortened to 4). Without it, the new BSG (now that was pretentious up the wazoo!) wouldn't have been possible.

143 posted on 11/02/2009 6:19:36 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Obi-Wan Palin: Strike her down and she shall become more powerful than you could possibly imagine.)
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To: buccaneer81
Space:1999

We do not commit mindless violence.

144 posted on 11/02/2009 6:22:58 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
We do not commit mindless violence.

Verdeschi: What is it you want?

Beta Cloud: For you to die.

Verdeschi: We don't die on request.

145 posted on 11/02/2009 6:31:16 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: mthom

Thanks for the info


146 posted on 11/02/2009 6:32:11 PM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: McGarrett
What always puzzled me about Star Trek was where were the bathrooms or I guess it would be the head on a navy ship.
147 posted on 11/02/2009 6:47:38 PM PST by Polynikes (Viene una tormenta)
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To: buccaneer81

Beta Cloud: Accept your fate!

Verdeschi: So that we can die peacefully?

Beta Cloud: Make your time!

Verdeschi: All your base are belong to us!


148 posted on 11/02/2009 6:51:46 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

From the home office in Ottawa, Ontario, here it the top ten list of good uses for Duct Tape on Moonbase Alpha.

By John Fleming

10. You can fix what’s wrong with Main Mission, if we can find the problem. Hell, tape everything!

9. Patch the hole in Victor’s space suit *before* he goes out to play.

8. Maybe fix some of those Eagles that Alan keeps crashing.

7. Stop air leaks in the windows every time Collins throws himself against one.

6. Secure patients to their beds so they can’t situp and scream, and then cause havoc on the base.

5. Securely attach the monster’s heads so they don’t flop around during a fight scene.

4. After wearing the same clothes for over 5 years, we can cut them up into little pieces and make a new outfit everyday.

3. Tape our mouths shut when Tony makes a new batch of beer.

2. May finally stop Helena from screaming.

And the number one use for Duct Tape on Moon Base Alpha...

1. With enough of it, we can tape ourselves to a planetary orbit and stop this infernal wondering the Galaxy thing.


149 posted on 11/02/2009 6:56:21 PM PST by buccaneer81 (ECOMCON)
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To: Syntyr

It finally dawned on me what is wrong, is is the DS9 of the stargate franchise.


150 posted on 11/02/2009 7:03:15 PM PST by dangerdoc
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To: visualops

I forgot about Brimstone, I seem to remember that it was one of those shows that as soon as I discover it, it gets cancelled.

I bought the Dresden Files DVDs, A couple of times a year I rewatch them, one of the few shows that stand up to repeated viewing.


151 posted on 11/02/2009 7:07:10 PM PST by dangerdoc
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To: RegulatorCountry

LOL
Yeah, she was!
My favorire was Ka D’Argo.
Stark irked the heck outta me!


152 posted on 11/02/2009 7:09:03 PM PST by MS.BEHAVIN (Women who behave rarely make history)
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To: oldleft

“3. Red Dwarf

2. Mork and Mindy

1. Futurama”

Mork and Mindy?

You might as well include ALF and My Favorite Martian. How about I Dream of Jeannie while your at it?


153 posted on 11/02/2009 7:13:10 PM PST by Salmonslayer
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To: Kartographer

I loved the SG 1 series. It was well acted and most of the episodes were entertaining and not too cheesy.

Buffy was smart and funny with great dialogue.


154 posted on 11/02/2009 7:18:12 PM PST by altura
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To: Salmonslayer

Third Rock, Fraggle Rock, My Favorite Martian, Bewitched, Max Head Room.

I just notice something no one metioned Robo Cop!


155 posted on 11/02/2009 7:19:45 PM PST by Kartographer (".. we mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor.")
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep
Coincidentally, I'm having dinner with him and a few other people tomorrow night.

Tell him that I thought The Starlost was great, his best work since The City on the Edge of Forever. OK, maybe not. While I think Ellison is a first order jackass and I do own The Starlost on DVD, I don't hate enough enough to want you to trigger "the big one".

156 posted on 11/02/2009 7:20:04 PM PST by Question_Assumptions
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To: mthom

I watched Smallville for a couple of years and enjoyed it, but it finally just ran out of stuff to do.


157 posted on 11/02/2009 7:22:20 PM PST by altura
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To: redhead

Star Gate Universe. The DP insisted we watch the first episode after which he declared it boring and the characters did nothing but fight with each other, but I’ve stuck with it.

The episode where they had to decide on 15 to go was strangely moving when the people on the ship were trying to pass the time before an inevitable death. Reminded me of the people on the Titanic.

Of course, I knew death was not inevitable because ... well, those were the starts. I like Eli.


158 posted on 11/02/2009 7:25:31 PM PST by altura
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To: buccaneer81

I liked DS9. There were some corny episodes but I loved the Ferengi and ... the baseball episode was great, I think I still have it on tape and there was an episode about war that was very moving.


159 posted on 11/02/2009 7:27:22 PM PST by altura
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To: EveningStar

Blakes Seven.....great stories, really cheesy FX, good looking chicks, foppish self-involved half-a-homo brit actors acting tough...it was a hoot.


160 posted on 11/02/2009 7:29:31 PM PST by wtc911 ("How you gonna get down that hill?")
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