Posted on 10/14/2009 9:50:04 PM PDT by kellynla
In case you don't know, after the terror attacks of 9/11/01, there were indeed a few Americans who honestly believed that the federal government was so corrupt that it was behind and responsible for the events of September 11. Even though we all watched in shock, as hijacked planes flew into the twin towers, the Pentagon and a Pennsylvania field, these folks imagined that someone in Washington DC might have blown up those buildings instead.
Not that our federal government isn't capable of such things, mind you... but they are not likely to pull off such a thing without anyone spilling the beans sooner or later.
These believers were labeled "truthers" - and were often the same folks who claimed to have seen UFOs or even to have been abducted by aliens from outer space at some point in their lives.
Most Americans passed these folks off as crackpots - mentally unstable individuals in need of help, not a seat in congress.
So when very normal people starting asking who this grand nobody from Chicago was, who appeared out of thin air with a blank résumé and a billion dollar campaign fund from donors around the globe, they were labeled "birthers" for questioning the "Natural Born Citizen" status of a mystery messiah seeking the Oval Office.
Every mainstream media outlet in America has either ignored the question, or joined the chorus of pro-Obama propagandists in discrediting "birthers" as the same crackpots known as "truthers."
What had "birthers" done that was so over the top? They asked to see Barack Obama's birth certificate, and to date, they have been denied that "crazy" request. In fact, multiple law suits have been filed across the country in numerous forms, simply seeking access to Obama's personal history, and most recently, a judge has fined one of those attorney's $20,000 for "filing frivolous law suits" on the matter.
Meanwhile, taxpayers have picked up the tab for over $1.5 MILLION in Obama legal defense fees, used to keep Obama's birth certificate, his school and college records, his passport and travel records and his law practice files Top Secret. So far, the "transparent president" is anything but "transparent." He is the ONLY president in US history to hide his entire past.
Now, how reasonable is Obama's behavior, and how unreasonable is the behavior of the so-called "birther?"
Natural Born Citizen
Article II - Section I - Clause 5 of the US Constitution requires that ONLY a "natural born citizen" hold the office of President. It's no secret what they meant or why that clause exists. It is a matter of national security.
Lets not play any games here... too many games have been played with this phrase already. It's a very simple term that anyone with a dictionary can figure out.
Not just any ole "citizen..."
Not Native - "belonging to a particular place by birth"
Not Naturalized - "to confer the rights of a national on; especially : to admit to citizenship" (as with an immigrant)
But NATURAL - "Pertaining to nature; produced or effected by nature, or by the laws of growth, formation or motion impressed on bodies or beings by divine power."
The US Senate got it exactly right in 2008 in their unanimous resolution proclaiming John McCain a "natural born citizen" of the Unites States of America, based upon the well-known fact that BOTH of his parents were indeed legal citizens of the United States at the time of John's birth. In other words, by "divine power" and the "laws of growth," "produced by nature" of the fact that his parents were US citizens, so was John McCain, by birth right via natural ancestry.
However, no such Senate resolution concerning Barack Obama exists, and the standard applied to John McCain is NOT being applied to Barack Obama.
The Birth Certificate
Obama supporters like Snopes and FactCheck claim to have a copy of Obama's birth certificate, but they do NOT. I challenge any reader of this column to send me a certified copy of Obama's actual birth certificate and I will gladly disclose it to the public along with a retraction of this statement.
I won't get one, because no such document has ever been released by Obama. End of story!
Officials in Hawaii have issued their "opinion" that Obama is a "natural born citizen" of the United States. But they have thus far refused to make public the documents used to arrive at that opinion, and until they do so, their "opinion" is nothing more than inadmissible hearsay from a third party NOT present at the time of Obama's birth, and they are therefore, unable to support such a claim.
Not one, but THREE different COLBs, (Certification of Live Birth, not to be confused with an actual birth certificate) have been posted online by Team Obama, Snopes and FactCheck. But none of the three contain any verifiable information necessary to vet the documents and since three have been offered, all must be treated as forgeries until one of them can be authenticated.
Some "birthers" believe Obama was born in Kenya, not Hawaii. That's because Obama's Kenyan relatives have stated under oath, that they were present at Obama's birth in Kenya.
But where he was born isn't so important. The fact that he was born to a father who was at no time a citizen of the United States, is the problem. On this basis alone, Obama is NOT a "natural born citizen" of the United States and that makes him an "unconstitutional president" at best!
Proof of Constitutional Standing
Other than the three different COLBs posted online by Obama, Snopes and FactCheck, Obama has offered NO other proof of legal US citizenship, much less "natural born" status as required by Article II of the Constitution. NONE! If you think I'm wrong, send me the proof you have!
We know that he traveled to Pakistan, among other places in the Middle East, during his college years, and that he did NOT hold a US passport at that time. We know that he received his first US passport as a "diplomat," while he was a state senator in Illinois, which also allowed him to bypass the normal process of getting a US passport.
But because he will not open up his records, we do NOT know what passport he traveled on during those college trips to the Middle East.
We know he attended three of the most expensive colleges in the United States. But we do NOT know how he was able to pay his tuition without any job, why he changed schools, or why former Black Panther Godfather Dr. Khalid al-Mansour (aka Donald Warden, Saudi Royal Family front man) and New York Panther Percy Sutton, helped him into Harvard.
Bottom line, Obama is one great big secret mystery!
What's the BIG Deal?
The BIG deal is national security! Like it or not, the Unites States has enemies, some of them obvious and others less overt in their strategies.
After nine months of Marxist agenda advancements at odds with most Americans, leaving Obama with record sinking approval ratings in the states, no imagination is required when wondering what damages can be done to the USA from within the halls of our corrupt federal government.
So, how crazy are those "birthers" to ask a question as basic as a birth certificate?
Standard National Security Clearance
Not only has Obama never passed any standard security clearance, he has never been asked to apply for such clearance and couldn't pass that clearance if his life depended on it.
Yet, he is the Commander-in-Chief of the United States of America, the highest office in our land and the most powerful office in the world, without so much as a simple birth certificate to prove his eligibility for the lofty office he holds.
What if he had to pass security clearance before having access to Top Secret information, as any other American citizen would have to pass?
The security check will begin with you filling out a 17-page questionnaire. Most of the questions seek information that can be investigated, such as past residences and employment. It will also ask for contact information for people who know you. Fill out the form thoroughly and honestly. Providing false information on a U.S. security form is punishable with a fine, jail time and/or a dishonorable discharge if you are in the military.
None of this information has been made available on Barack Obama... He has filled out no such form, has no "employment history" - won't discuss any of the people he spent twenty years hanging out with, some of whom are known terrorists, all of whom have a very funny view of America.
Next, the actual security check...
A security check involves investigation of your life, including federal records, criminal checks and credit checks. Higher level checks will also involve field interviews not only with you, but with people who know you. Investigators will be looking into your character, criminal history, emotional stability, trustworthiness, loyalty and reliability to see if you should be allowed to access confidential information, most notably national security information. So you don't want to have committed serious crimes, be deep in debt or associate with groups that act against the government.
Oops! --- No record of how he paid for college, where he traveled or on what passport, or why. Twenty years in the pew of a racially charged anti-American church run by an overtly racists preacher. Friends like Weather Underground terrorist William Ayers, Saudi Royal front man Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, criminal Tony Rezko, Communist Frank Marshall Davis, and many - MANY more!
Adjudicative Process
The adjudicative process is an examination of a sufficient period of a person's life to make an affirmative determination that the person is eligible for a security clearance. Eligibility for access to classified information is predicated upon the individual meeting these personnel security guidelines. The adjudicative process is the careful weighing of a number of variables known as the whole person concept. Available, reliable information about the person, past and present, favorable and unfavorable, should be considered in reaching a determination. In evaluating the relevance of an individual's conduct, the adjudicator should consider the following factors:
a. The nature, extent, and seriousness of the conduct; b. The circumstances surrounding the conduct, to include knowledgeable participation; c. The frequency and recency of the conduct; d. The individual's age and maturity at the time of the conduct; e. The voluntariness of participation; f. The presence or absence of rehabilitation and other pertinent behavioral changes; g. The motivation for the conduct; h. The potential for pressure, coercion, exploitation, or duress; and i. The likelihood of continuation or recurrence.
When information of security concern becomes known about an individual who is currently eligible for access to classified information, the adjudicator should consider whether the person:
a. Voluntarily reported the information; b. Was truthful and complete in responding to questions; c. Sought assistance and followed professional guidance, where appropriate; d. Resolved or appears likely to favorably resolve the security concern; e. Has demonstrated positive changes in behavior and employment; f. Should have his or her access temporarily suspended pending final adjudication of the information.
Maybe "birthers" are nuts! They have only asked for a simple birth certificate, which any other legal American citizen with nothing to hide would have released immediately upon request! Maybe it is "crazy" that "birthers" are only concerned with the missing birth certificate at this late date?
Most American citizens have a job, a bank account, a post office box, a driver's license, and some even have high level security clearances. What was asked of you before you can have any of these things?
Something more than a simple birth certificate, yes?
Yet somehow, it isn't Obama who is in trouble here, but rather those crazy "birthers" who simply want to know who in the hell this mystery messiah from Kenya is and why he is so damned anti-American, and anything but transparent?
The US citizen is becoming aware of the fact that they have an entire administration of foxes guarding their hen house and they are growing desperate in their attempts to seek peaceful redress in the courts, which are supposed to be the unbiased defenders of the Constitution and rule of law in this country.
It's clear that neither the executive or legislative branches of the federal government represent the will of the legal US taxpayer anymore. Before we commence to "altering or abolishing" a government which has indeed become "destructive" of the individual right to Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness, we must exhaust the peaceful means of redress established in the courts.
But it appears that we may have already arrived at this point in time, as NO court in the land believes that average American citizens have the "proper standing" to ask who in the hell this mystery man really is?
That being the case, I suppose all peaceful means of redress have been exhausted and it is time to take matters into our own hands while there is still a country left to save and a Constitution around to uphold.
Before citizens allow people who won't even disclose a birth certificate to control life and death by way of nationalized medicine, they had better wake up and take a stand.
"whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
If it's true that NO American court will allow the people access to peaceful redress of such a fundamental concern, then I'm afraid we have indeed arrived at the moment in history when the people are left to their own remedies.
I will NOT call for violent actions, but I sure have no hesitation in predicting that violent action is the natural result of no access to peaceful solutions. The people are tirelessly, relentlessly and patiently hoping that some court somewhere will rise to the duty of their oath to protect the Constitution from all enemies, foreign and domestic, before the people themselves have to rise in defense of their beloved country.
If the courts continue to run interference of Obama & Co., I predict it will be a grave error of enormous proportions...
In the end, citizens of this country will demand freedom and a constitutional government. They will seek peaceful solutions first, but when all else fails, they will once again arise to the call of duty, in defense of the greatest nation ever known to mankind. For freedom to exist anywhere on earth, it must exist in the United States of America.
I sincerely pray for wisdom in the courts, before the people run out of patience.
The "birthers" aren't crazy. They're right! The Constitution either means what it says or it means nothing at all. If it means nothing at all, then the people are on their own and the time to alter or abolish has arrived.
There is no evidence whatsoever that he ever carried a British or Indonesian Passport.
I think that must have something to do with that fact that there is no law that states that a person born in the US must have two US citizen parents in order to be a natural born citizen.
YOU are very wrong on your facts. The FACT is that Obama’s father was a British colonial subject, and it is a FACT that Obama was also a British subject at birth through his father.
Since Obama did not owe exclusive loyalty to the United States, he was not ‘under its exclusive jurisdiction” and was NOT, as a matter of FACT and LAW, a Natural Born Citizen of the United States at the time of his birth, regardless of its physical location. Since he was not a Natural Born Citizen at birth, he cannot be one now, since it is a status acquired naturally at birth, and at no other time.
I will not comment on McCain’s birth status since the claim is based on a different set of facts and is moot in any case.
If Obama was born in Hawaii, he is a citizen, perhaps, but your continued assertions that his birth on American soil makes him a natural born citizen is wrong, misguided, previously corrected by advice, stubborn, perverse and willful.
You are right about one thing; no one in the US Senate gives a rat’s ass. True. They are far more concerned with their own senatorial egos than they are with an old, faded, ratty looking piece of paper called the US Constitution.
I imagine that is is due to the fact that this is not a matter of statute law at all. It is a matter of Constitutional definition, and Constitutional words are not defined by statute. If they could be, we could do away with the Amendment process and just redefine select words and phrases any time we wanted to mean whatever we decided they should mean. That is decidedly NOT the case.
Well, if that is the case, we can permit the nine members of the SCOTUS decide on the definition of “natural born citizen.”
As this is a case of first impression, ultimately that is exactly what has to happen. The court needs to make it clear what the founders meant by their use of that particular phrase. Others can and have done the research, but only the Supreme Court can turn it into binding legal precedent.
Myself I have spent over a year digging into Obamas past, well before his goon squads sanized a lot of sources and well before the trolls invaded conservative forums sprinkling pacifying dust and I know the truth, I know when the truth gets twisted, torqued or changed about Obamas past, his associates, his linear direction in politics and most importantly foreign sources that support eveidence of his guided ambition through a remarkable chain of events to slip through loopholes of the election processes to be POTUS.
Birthers are patriots and no amount of Whitehouse stereotyping will convince me otherwise on this position, either we stand together or we fall divided on this issue.
This simple fact is a keystone to Obamas hastily shoddily erected tower of power. We as patriots must at the least not be swayed by fears of terroristic labeling by those that themselves are illegally in the position to issue such orders. Its right vs. wrong, its the right way to voice dissent.
From what I have read so far, the basis of the suspicion is that American citizens were not allowed to travel to Pakistan at that time. Therefore, if Obama traveled there and if it is true that he traveled there directly, the question is how?
I also do not know if it was the Pakistani government or the US government that barred Americans from traveling to Pakistan. In either case it creates suspicion and raises a legitmately asked question that would be fair game to ask any American.
As for Obama not physically possessing a passport or having ever had one issued to him, I have not read anything that has been published. Perhaps Obama or one of his ghostwriters wrote of not having a passsport until such and sucn age, I don’t know.
Just asking...
The link that Yossarian posts refers to ‘citizen’ and not ‘natural born citizen’.
From Larry Walker’s blog:
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Article 2, section 1 of the Constitution states, “No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of president; neither shall any person be eligible who shall not attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United Satates.”
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The addition of a grandfather clause in this paragraph says a lot as to the meaning of natural born. The first thing it says is that being born in the US is not enough to be natural born, otherwise the grandfather clause would not be necessary. The writers and delegates, having been born in the US, wanted to be eligible for the presidency, but most were the children of British subjects. Knowing that that eliminated them from being natural born and, thus, from eligibility, they included the grandfather clause which expired when the last person alive at the time of the ratification of the Constitution died. So, being a native born citizen is not the same as being natural born. If it were the framers would not have included the clause.
When asked to define natural born citizen, John Bingham, the author of the 14th ammendment which extended the bill of rights to former slaves, stated, “Any human born to parents who are US citizens and are under no other jurisdiction or authority.” The Naturalization Act of 1790, also passed by this congress, declared “And the children of citizens of the US shall be considered as natural born, provided that the right of citizenship shall not descend to persons whose fathers have never been a resident of the US.” Neither of these definitions, one from US law, mentions birthplace, only the parents’ citizenship.
Dogmatic Obama supporter.
Pretty darned crazy.
The first one to jump on you, NOT surprisingly, is one of the DoJ (Aporn) employee who is apparently on the night shift and is collecting full benefits from the usurper “administration.” This assignment is a 24/7 job!!!
Your confession?
And wrong.
Oh boy! ( Whew!)
I wonder what the DOJ employed trolls will have to say about this? Fasten the seat belts!
Common Sense Bump! ;-)
Fidel Castro could be nominated, placed on ballots.. ( With thousands upon thousands of citizens screaming at their government officials the entire time to check his credentials).
Citizens could elect Fidel Castro. ( With citizens hammering at elected officials and badgering their so-called conservative talk show weenies begging them to cover the issue.)
The Electoral College could vote for Fidel Castro for U.S. President. ( Again with thousands of citizen writing, faxing and calling in to object.).
Attorney Berg might even get Fidel's case all the way to the Supreme Court. ( With a minimum of 250,000 FedEX letters, and other letters and notifications by the thousands upon thousands, arriving begging the Supreme court to hear the case.)
The Congress could approve him.( With thousands of citizens writing, calling, and faxing in objection.)
And...Citizens have no standing to go to court and ask that our Constitution be upheld, and Fidel Castros natural born status examined.
Somehow, I don't think this is what our Founding Fathers had in mind.
As far as the “perry mason” wannabees are concerned... well, when they start putting their money where there mouths are THEN I will start collecting...so far, all I've gotten are a lot of deadbeats...”all hat, no cattle”
It also includes nearly all of yapping so-called “conservative” commentator class. For me, this was a “deal breaker”. I now know their true character. These loud mouthed talk show hosts are opportunists who **use** conservatives.
These talk show hosts ( even those with 20 million listeners) are **users**. When tyranny comes, these guys ( and few gals) will throw conservatives away like a soiled wad of Kleenx. Instead, they will turn their smooth tongues to promoting the oppressive propaganda of the oligarchy, and will eagerly wipe the noses of dictators.
Yes, I am that disgusted with Rush, Beck, Hannity, OReilly, Coulter, Malkin, Levine, Boortz, Medved, Ingram, and the entire stable of Fox News beauties.
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