Why controversy surrounds Obama birth certificate

Phoenix Political Buzz Examiner ^ | July 30, 2009 | Patty Kelley

[real_patriotic_american]

The Obama "long form" birth certificate has been in question for a long time. A large movement is asking for his official birth record (see reasons below). Likewise, another movement is growing -- saying that the first group is nuts and is wasting everyone's time.

Lawsuits are continually being filed for proof of President Obama's eligibility. The latest from someone in the military.

The "Vault or Long Form" certificate has been wrongly interchanged with the "Certificate of Live Birth" as proof of birth although they are two different documents.

Although I do not subscribe to either side of the debate, here are some of the alleged reasons floating around on the internet fueling the movement for the President to prove his eligibility to lead our country. (i.e. do not shoot this messenger)

A video explains why Obama is not eligible according to the law (YouTube video)

Obama was born at Kapi'olani Medical Center for Women and Children in Hawai'i (snopes)

Obama was born at Queens Medical Center in Hawai'i (snopes screen shot)

Kenyan Ambassador Peter NRO Ogego says Obama was born in Kenya (sound recording from on-air Detroit WRIF radio show to Kenyan Embassy)

Obama's birth certificate was thrown out in 2001 when the hospital went paperless (See LA Times)

Obama's birth certificate was NOT thrown out in 2001 when the hospital went paperless (Same above LA Times article)

"We don't destroy vital records," says Hawaii Health Department spokeswoman.

Obama's birth certificate number is later than the Nordyke twins even though he was born a day earlier (Free Republic w/substantiating links)

Obama was born in Kenya according to Kenyan grandma (YouTube video)

Obama online "proof" of birth certificate likely came from PhotoBucket (Isreal Insider)

Kenya has sealed Obamas' medical records (source scrubbed)

Obama's birth certificate was lost in a fire at the hospital

Winnie the Poohs birth certificate is more authentic than Obamas (Canada Free Press)

Hawaiian law: [§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child. (b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate. (c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]

Obama's birth certificate was eaten by the dog (ok …I made that up)

[RummyChick]

Anyone who makes a statement like this

“Instead, he bequeathed his British colonial status on his son. This is a conceded fact, beyond any dispute or controversy, and it rules out natural born US citizenship for his son without regard to the location of his birth.”

shows that they haven’t done proper research into the matter.

So no, I don’t accept your conclusions but go right ahead and pretend you know what will happen when it comes time to make the decision about his NBC status.

[John Valentine]

Again, your logic is a bit flawed.

You claim the marriage between Stanley Ann Dunham was void ab initio, then you use this conclusion to reach into the British Nationality Act to show that British colonial status did not devolve to Obama because he was a bastard.

Wrong again, and here’s why. The British Nationality Act provides that “A void marriage, for the purposes of the Legitimacy Act 1976, is one in respect of which the High Court has or had jurisdiction to grant a decree of nullity.” (2.2.1)

Further, “The courts did not have jurisdiction to grant a decree of nullity in respect of polygamous [the term includes potentially polygamous] marriages until 29 June 1972, when the Matrimonial Proceedings (Polygamous Marriages) Act 1972 was enacted.” (2.2.4.1)

At the time of Obama’s birth in Hawaii in 1961, the act you think might have served to void the marriage between Obama and Dunham and deny him his patrilineage rights did not exist. Or perhaps you believe that the marriage would have been void ab initio under local law, but no such court order or finding has ever been made in any court of jurisdiction in the United States.

Obama was indeed a British subject at birth, and the validity of the parent’s marriage has never been questioned by a local court, and the British courts lacked the jurisdiction to do so even had they desired to.

Your own personal view that the Obama-Dunham marriage was void ab initio has exactly zero weight.

Case closed.

[real_patriotic_american]

Well documented. Checkout Orly Taitz and WND sites.

[webschooner]

And attorney Orly Taitz is working on Obama’s alleged 39 Social Security numbers.

... and 149 different addresses used, all prior to taking office (I really don't think he has lived in that many places)

[petercooper]

bttt

[real_patriotic_american]

I’m looking forward to all of these suspicious documents of Obama’s being introduced into court.

[Dryman]

“FREE THE LONG FORM!”

[real_patriotic_american]

Awesome! I like it!!

You wrote-
““FREE THE LONG FORM!””