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Weekly Roundup - Living On Nothing Edition [Survival Today - an On going Thread #3]
Frugal Dad .com ^ | July 23, 2009 | Frugal Dad

Posted on 07/24/2009 3:37:21 AM PDT by nw_arizona_granny

Weekly Roundup - Living On Nothing Edition Category: Roundups | Comments(15)

Did you hear about the guy that lives on nothing? No seriously, he lives on zero dollars a day. Meet Daniel Suelo, who lives in a cave outside Moab, Utah. Suelo has no mortgage, no car payment, no debt of any kind. He also has no home, no car, no television, and absolutely no “creature comforts.” But he does have a lot of creatures, as in the mice and bugs that scurry about the cave floor he’s called home for the last three years.

To us, Suelo probably sounds a little extreme. Actually, he probably sounds very extreme. After all, I suspect most of you reading this are doing so under the protection of some sort of man-made shelter, and with some amount of money on your person, and probably a few needs for money, too. And who doesn’t need money unless they have completely unplugged from the grid? Still, it’s an amusing story about a guy who rejects all forms of consumerism as we know it.

The Frugal Roundup

How to Brew Your Own Beer and Maybe Save Some Money. A fantastic introduction to home brewing, something I’ve never done myself, but always been interested in trying. (@Generation X Finance)

Contentment: A Great Financial Principle. If I had to name one required emotion for living a frugal lifestyle it would be contentment. Once you are content with your belongings and your lot in life you can ignore forces attempting to separate you from your money. (@Personal Finance by the Book)

Use Energy Star Appliances to Save On Utility Costs. I enjoyed this post because it included actual numbers, and actual total savings, from someone who upgraded to new, energy star appliances. (@The Digerati Life)

Over-Saving for Retirement? Is it possible to “over-save” for retirement? Yes, I think so. At some point I like the idea of putting some money aside in taxable investments outside of retirement funds, to be accessed prior to traditional retirement age. (@The Simple Dollar)

40 Things to Teach My Kids Before They Leave Home. A great list of both practical and philosophical lessons to teach your kids before they reach the age where they know everything. I think that now happens around 13 years-old. (@My Supercharged Life)

Index Fund Investing Overview. If you are looking for a place to invest with high diversification and relatively low fees (for broader index funds with low turnover), index funds are a great place to start. (@Money Smart Life)

5 Reasons To Line Dry Your Laundry. My wife and I may soon be installing a clothesline in our backyard. In many neighborhoods they are frowned upon - one of the reasons I don’t like living in a neighborhood. I digress. One of our neighbors recently put up a clothesline, and we might just follow his lead. (@Simple Mom)

A Few Others I Enjoyed

* 4 Quick Tips for Getting Out of a Rut * Young and Cash Rich * Embracing Simple Style * First Trading Experience With OptionsHouse * The Exponential Power of Delayed Consumption * How Much Emergency Fund is Enough? * 50 Questions that Will Free Your Mind * Save Money On Car Insurance


TOPICS: Food; Gardening; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: emergencypreparation; food; frugal; frugality; garden; gf; gluten; glutenfree; granny; hunger; jm; nwarizonagranny; prep; prepper; preppers; preps; starvation; stinkbait; survival; survivalists; wcgnascarthread
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To: DelaWhere

Methanol is blinding because when you metabolize it.. it produces Formic acid .

Formic acid is toxic to the optic nerve.

Isopropanol metabolizes to acetone roughly x2 as intoxicating as ethanol.

Ethylene glycol metabolizes to glycolic acid, glyoxylic acid and oxalic acid.. All are renal toxins plus it causes acedemia.

The reason ethylene glycol is so toxic to dogs and other animals is that it has a sweetish taste and they will drink it readily.


1,421 posted on 08/20/2009 2:27:29 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: DelaWhere
If you use corn you make corn liquor more commonly known as moon shine.

It isn't bourbon unless 1) it's a Kentucky product and 2) aged in a charred oak barrel for a number of years.

The micro evaporation that occurs over the years is known as the angels share. The deep rich color of bourbon comes from the slow evaporation and the infusion of tannins from charred oak.

1,422 posted on 08/20/2009 2:32:21 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: CottonBall

They are lovely..

How can you tell who is who at a glance..They are so close.

Reminds me of trying to pick out Rob or Brian from my identical twin nephews.


1,423 posted on 08/20/2009 2:36:37 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: CottonBall

Lotta work , neatly done.


1,424 posted on 08/20/2009 2:37:20 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

Stair stepper with a purpose besides lifting the fanny.


1,425 posted on 08/20/2009 2:38:56 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: CottonBall

I don’t think there has been a big shake since 1811.. They are expecting a big one any time.


1,426 posted on 08/20/2009 2:40:31 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

INMHO you need to keep purr baby.


1,427 posted on 08/20/2009 2:43:04 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: DelaWhere

I have your location down pat.

You guys just shifted Biden to a bigger playpen.


1,428 posted on 08/20/2009 2:46:07 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: All; DelaWhere; Eagle50AE

Found these links on the treadle pump google:

Page of interesting links to others sites:

http://www.paulpolak.com/html/res.html

Revolutionary Designs featured in Out of Poverty

http://www.paulpolak.com/html/design.html

http://www.paulpolak.com/

http://www.google.com/search?q=paul+polak%2C+Out+Of+POverty&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

On this page there is a plastic treadle pump link:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=treadle+pump+to+water&start=20&sa=N


I didn’t dig into this page, will one of these days, I see hybrids, but did not see GE on the front page, still it is an interesting food seed/type site:

Our mission
To alleviate poverty and malnutrition in the developing world through
the increased production and consumption of safe vegetables.

http://www.avrdc.org/


1,429 posted on 08/20/2009 2:46:28 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TASMANIANRED; DelaWhere

Stair stepper with a purpose besides lifting the fanny.<<<

You had me confused, but I went to the original post and LOL, yes, a treadle pump would work as a stair stepper.

Now if you convince the people who have a stair stepper that the fresh air would be better for them.....hummmm, wonder if Delawhere can rig it to make electric too?


1,430 posted on 08/20/2009 2:57:16 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TASMANIANRED

INMHO you need to keep purr baby.<<<

I am here alone and do not have good health, so if I got down and couldn’t care for it, it would die too.

It is almost too much even now, takes all day to feed them, at the pace I can go.


1,431 posted on 08/20/2009 2:58:55 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TenthAmendmentChampion

Those countries should be able to feed themselves but the land ownership issue and the drug wars make it impossible to have a decent society.<<<

As I dug into that site, I found it to be a real marxist site.

The simple fact is, at times, you will find more of the information you seek on the commie sites, than on normal sites, LOL, even if I do put a different spin on what they are twisting.

Food riots are an every day event in parts of the world.


1,432 posted on 08/20/2009 3:01:35 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: CottonBall

CB, what a lovely sight, all that firewood. What a lot of work if you were hand-splitting it. I tried to talk my guys into cutting some trees down earlier this spring, but they didn’t do it. I suppose there might be some laying in the back woods, down by nature, but we haven’t checked. We do have a small pile that youngest son brought home from his landscape work.


1,433 posted on 08/20/2009 3:14:52 PM PDT by Marmolade
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To: TASMANIANRED

>>>It isn’t bourbon unless 1) it’s a Kentucky product and 2) aged in a charred oak barrel for a number of years.<<<

Hmmm, and I can smell it at least 100 yards away... LOL

OK, fragrant bouquet... (is that PC enough?)

Night before we were to take off and convoy from Texas to Ft. Richardson, Alaska, (for winter maneuvers - over Christmas and New Years too) our Company did some heavy partaking of that devil’s swill... Drank till 4, threw up till 5 climbed behind the wheel of my big truck by 6. Oh - that 4” exhaust pipe with no muffler was sooooo loud... JB and I parted company after that. I have not forgotten that smell - even almost half a century later.

Shoot, it messed us up so bad we never made it to Alaska, but Homestead Florida instead... (Cuban Missile Crisis) That was funny, arrived in Florida with arctic parkas and mukluks - think we didn’t get some ribbing over that.


1,434 posted on 08/20/2009 3:16:25 PM PDT by DelaWhere (PEOPLE WITH THEIR HEADS IN THE SAND, INVITE THEIR BUTTS TO BE KICKED)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

It could probably be rigged to produce electricity.

I’m trying to figure out how to make something productive from the stair stepper that was given to me.


1,435 posted on 08/20/2009 3:16:49 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: All; TenthAmendmentChampion

Sources: Cash For Clunkers To End Monday
The Obama administration plans to end the popular $3 billion Cash for Clunkers program on Monday at 8 p.m. EDT, The Associated Press has learned.

MORE DETAILS: http://www.10News.com/tu/5Jb1TYkPO.html

{Folks wanted change, and by golly they are getting it, for the ‘new’ washington, changes laws/rules more often than I comb my hair....
granny}


1,436 posted on 08/20/2009 3:18:25 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: nw_arizona_granny

I understand your concerns but...people that have pets live longer happier lives.

I have friends that have an Amazonian parrot..It came to them through a ‘will’. since they live about 80 years, it is in their will to go to a younger relative.

Perhaps you can arrange an adoption for him ...at a later date.


1,437 posted on 08/20/2009 3:18:40 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (TAZ:Untamed, Unpredictable, Uninhibited.)
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To: All; TenthAmendmentChampion; CottonBall

State Senate Passes Plan To Release Inmates Early
The California Senate, voting after a highly charged debate, has approved a plan
that will allow some 27,000 inmates to be released early from state prison or
avoid prison time altogether.

MORE DETAILS: http://www.10News.com/tu/5Jb4zZDQf.html


1,438 posted on 08/20/2009 3:22:12 PM PDT by nw_arizona_granny ( http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/21813ht92/posts?page=1 [Survival,food,garden,crafts,and more)
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To: TASMANIANRED

>>>You guys just shifted Biden to a bigger playpen.<<<

We just thought the rest of the country needed some laughs.

After all, he is foreign expert. (about as foreign to being an expert as you can get.)

Is everyone laughing yet?


1,439 posted on 08/20/2009 3:54:32 PM PDT by DelaWhere (PEOPLE WITH THEIR HEADS IN THE SAND, INVITE THEIR BUTTS TO BE KICKED)
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To: metmom
No. We're in Central NY. We just get buried for the heck of it.

LOL! Hubby is from that area, I think. He's from Avon, a small town near Rochester. It may be more east than central. Anyway, he complained about the lakes making the area cold. Never complained about snow though, because he loves snowmobiling. That's why we had to get a cabin at the top of this mountain (7200 feet), not at the community at 5000 feet (which was my choice since I am a snow wimp. But I'm learning - I bought a pair of snowshoes last year at the end of the season on sale. Will learn how to love snowshoeing this winter!)
1,440 posted on 08/20/2009 3:55:52 PM PDT by CottonBall
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