Obama birth certificate issue not going away

Baltimore Christian Conservative Examiner ^ | July 21, 2009 | Larry Amon

[real_patriotic_american]

In a quest that is seen as wacky, way out there and as bitter partisan politics by some,the issue of Obama not showing his birth certificate to prove he is a naturalized American citizen continues. Is this really just some conspiracy theory along the lines of 9/11 truthers and alien cover ups? At first glance it seems like it. But surprisingly many American’s seem to actually believe there is some possibility of truth in this claim that Obama is not a citizen. WND continues to run stories on it but most recently a congressman’s town hall meeting became overwhelmed with the issue.

Many people will immediately jump up and say “Obama produced a birth certificate, what more do you want?” Apparently Obama provided a certificate of live birth (COLB) which is not the same as a long form birth certificate. The long form birth certificate should provide evidence that can be corroborated. The COLB provided on factcheck.org does not show a hospital, doctor’s name or anything else that can be checked, just a time and city. This COLB can also be obtained by non citizens.

Obama could easily release his long form birth certificate but hasn’t. Just to stop people from talking about it and to show that he has the most transparent administration, you think he would.

Many liberals, moderates and even some conservatives will probably read this and just say “get over it already.” There is a time to let things go and personally I already have. Not because I don’t think it’s important but because I think Obama will never release this information and even if it is true that he is not a natural citizen, that nothing will change. But should people just get over this? If it is true, it is the biggest scam in history. People never got over Bush’s decision to go to war with Iraq, should everyone just forget about this issue?

The argument could easily be made that if Obama does not qualify to be president than all of the bills he signed and executive orders he issued would have to be undone. This is very important but would cause huge upheaval. I don’t know if the American people would be able to handle this kind of event and the ramifications of the loss in trust of the government. It doesn’t mean the truth shouldn’t be fully investigated though but I sincerely doubt it ever will be

[Las Vegas Ron]

Outstanding questions!!

None of which I see you got any answers to, not surprised.

To me the first is the best and the most telling. The SOB doesn't even have the common decency and basic respect for the people and country he represents to just show the records and put this all to rest.

Now the last question was priceless! (Maybe even as telling as the first)

[mojitojoe]

I didn’t expect a fast answer to those. It’s much easier to copy and past law or Constitutional talking points, not so easy to answer the ones that any logical person would have to look at and say..... “hmmmm”.

[Non-Sequitur]

1. Why do you think he continues to fight the court cases filed against him.

Politics. No other president has had to provide proof of citizenship. And having produced his COLB once then if he agrees to provide more information makes it appear that the Birther arguements have merit. Finally, he's won every case to date so why quit?

2. Don’t you think maybe the birth certificate would have been a non issue had he not refused to release all of his other records?

No. Even if he produced his birth certificate today, people like you wouldn't be convinced. You would no doubt scream 'Forgery' or something.

3. Why did he refuses to release His medical records, yet it’s ok for him to want all of ours fed into his little data base in DC?

Obama's health care scheme is irrelevant to his Constitutional qualifications for president. Besides, Obama released the same kind of health information most other candidates release.

4. Why do you think there isn’t a single photo released of he and his mother, father, grandparents together? Not one. He was her first born child.

I couldn't find a picture of me, my parents, and my grandparents all together if my life depended on it. What's that say about me?

5. Why are there photos of him in Hawaii as a toddler but zero when he was 1-3 years old?

Because you haven't looked. Link

6. Explain to me your theory on why his mother was in Seattle, without her husband, with brand new little pink Barry? Why did she enroll in school in Seattle when he was an infant and her husband, the father of her newborn was in Hawaii?

I can't offer a theory because I'm not blessed with your creative imagination.

7. Did she leave Hawaii to fly to Seattle a few days after he was born? If so, why? Her friend there said she didn’t even know how to change a diaper yet. Don’t say her friend was not on Ann’s side because she was and when it hit the press, she shut up and refused any further interviews and has been silent ever since.

See above

8. Why do you think there isn’t a single, NOT ONE, ex girlfriend? Not one girl until Michelle. No pictures, no statement, nothing. Only pictures of him with men and some of them pretty darn cozy looking. No prom pictures, no candid photos, not a single one, but plenty with guys.

How many pictures of former girl friends did you keep? And what does your wife think of them?

9. Do you think he is hiding things that could remove him from office, make him a liar or embarrass him? Some of these, none of these or all of these?

Probably. Tell me one politician who doesn't.

10. In his book, Dreams, he said that he found his birth certificate and vaccination records. He found it special enough to mention it in his book, unless it was a lie and if it was a lie, why? What happened to those? Why didn’t he post a copy of that on the Internet? Why did he have to get a new COLB from Hawaii?

See answer to number one.

11. If you found out that he was born in Canada or Kenya, would you still think he is eligible?

No. So how's your search for evidence of foreign birth going?

12. If we found out he was born in Canada or Kenya, then he said he was lied to by his family and he didn’t even know it until now, would you still think he was eligible

See answer to number 11.

13. Do you believe Larry Sinclair? Do you not think he seems much more touchy feely with males than he does with females?

No. And no.

14. Did you think he throws a baseball like a girl? (this one is here just for sh*ts and giggles)

I didn't watch the All-Star Game so I couldn't say.

Happy?

[mojitojoe]

1. Why do you think he continues to fight the court cases filed against him. ______________________________________________________ Politics. No other president has had to provide proof of citizenship. And having produced his COLB once then if he agrees to provide more information makes it appear that the Birther arguements have merit. Finally, he's won every case to date so why quit? ______________________________________________________________ LIE............ McCain and others have. Odumas*ses is a joke. ________________________________________________________

2. Don’t you think maybe the birth certificate would have been a non issue had he not refused to release all of his other records? ________________________________________________________________ No. Even if he produced his birth certificate today, people like you wouldn't be convinced. You would no doubt scream 'Forgery' or something. _____________________________________________________________ LIE.... if he shows the long form, Occidental records and medical and they are ok, I would be convinced. _______________________________________________________

3. Why did he refuses to release His medical records, yet it’s ok for him to want all of ours fed into his little data base in DC? __________________________________________________________ Obama's health care scheme is irrelevant to his Constitutional qualifications for president. Besides, Obama released the same kind of health information most other candidates release. ______________________________________________________ LIE....... almost all presidents release their medical records and you know it. His medical conditions past and present have everything to do with whether or not he is qualified. _________________________________________________________

4. Why do you think there isn’t a single photo released of he and his mother, father, grandparents together? Not one. He was her first born child. ______________________________________________________ I couldn't find a picture of me, my parents, and my grandparents all together if my life depended on it. What's that say about me? ______________________________________________________ This isn't about YOU!! He sure released plenty of other photos. If you have none it tells me either your family isn't close, you don't care enough to save any photos, your family was probably poor and couldn't afford it. Or they were all lost in fire, hurricane, etc. I didn't say his had to be all together as a group. I said NOT ONE with any of his family. Not one with mother, father, grandparents... NONE __________________________________________________________

5. Why are there photos of him in Hawaii as a toddler but zero when he was 1-3 years old? _______________________________________________________ Because you haven't looked. Link ___________________________________________________________ I have all of those photos. He is at least 3 years old in all of them and why none with his mother or grandparents? ____________________________________________________

6. Explain to me your theory on why his mother was in Seattle, without her husband, with brand new little pink Barry? Why did she enroll in school in Seattle when he was an infant and her husband, the father of her newborn was in Hawaii? _______________________________________________________ I can't offer a theory because I'm not blessed with your creative imagination. ________________________________________________________ HA... I knew it. I'll take that as a hmmmmm?? _______________________________________________________

7. Did she leave Hawaii to fly to Seattle a few days after he was born? If so, why? Her friend there said she didn’t even know how to change a diaper yet. Don’t say her friend was not on Ann’s side because she was and when it hit the press, she shut up and refused any further interviews and has been silent ever since. ________________________________________________________ See above ________________________________________________________ Puzzling isn't it? Another Hmmmm? from you _____________________________________________________

8. Why do you think there isn’t a single, NOT ONE, ex girlfriend? Not one girl until Michelle. No pictures, no statement, nothing. Only pictures of him with men and some of them pretty darn cozy looking. No prom pictures, no candid photos, not a single one, but plenty with guys. ____________________________________________________________ How many pictures of former girl friends did you keep? And what does your wife think of them? Now you have either outed yourself as a female or a very insecure man. __________________________________________________________ Michelle's prom picture is all over the internet, what does the Kenyan think of that? I guess not everyone destroys their past because they have spouses that are jealous. Funny how not one single girl ever said, hey I used to date that guy. .....Pathetic response from you. _________________________________________________________

9. Do you think he is hiding things that could remove him from office, make him a liar or embarrass him? Some of these, none of these or all of these? _________________________________________________________ Probably. Tell me one politician who doesn't. ________________________________________________________

10. In his book, Dreams, he said that he found his birth certificate and vaccination records. He found it special enough to mention it in his book, unless it was a lie and if it was a lie, why? What happened to those? Why didn’t he post a copy of that on the Internet? Why did he have to get a new COLB from Hawaii? _________________________________________________________ See answer to number one. _____________________________________________________________ LAME LAME LAME response. __________________________________________________________

11. If you found out that he was born in Canada or Kenya, would you still think he is eligible? ___________________________________________________________ No. So how's your search for evidence of foreign birth going? __________________________________________________________ From what I hear, it's moving right along and it sure won't be discussed in the open forum. You have no idea what they have and what they know. ___________________________________________________________

12. If we found out he was born in Canada or Kenya, then he said he was lied to by his family and he didn’t even know it until now, would you still think he was eligible ________________________________________________________ See answer to number 11. _________________________________________________________

13. Do you believe Larry Sinclair? Do you not think he seems much more touchy feely with males than he does with females? ________________________________________________________ No. And no.

14. Did you think he throws a baseball like a girl? (this one is here just for sh*ts and giggles) ________________________________________________________________ I didn't watch the All-Star Game so I couldn't say. _____________________________________________________ Go watch it on you tube. just search for Mom Jeans ObamaOh and one more, why did the Klondyke twins have their long form but he can't get it? Also why was his announcement int he paper but not theirs and why was the address in the announcement fake? _______________________________________________________

[Las Vegas Ron]

Politics. No other president has had to provide proof of citizenship. And having produced his COLB once then if he agrees to provide more information makes it appear that the Birther arguements have merit. Finally, he's won every case to date so why quit?

BS, McCain didYour boy zer0 won't do it because he's a fraud and you know it

Lame, lame, lame answers...you're sooo obvious

[Las Vegas Ron]

Politics. No other president has had to provide proof of citizenship. And having produced his COLB once then if he agrees to provide more information makes it appear that the Birther arguements have merit. Finally, he's won every case to date so why quit?

BS, McCain did

Your boy zer0 won't do it because he's a fraud and you know it

Lame, lame, lame answers...you're sooo obvious

[Non-Sequitur]

Clinton didn't. Reagan didn't. Bush didn't. Johnson didn't. Nixon didn't. Etc. Etc.

Your boy zer0 won't do it because he's a fraud and you know it.

And how ya doin' with proving that?

[Las Vegas Ron]

And how ya doin' with proving that?

Evidently, we're making some head way, no thanks to the likes of you.

You didn't address the fact that McCain had to show a BC, only that others didn't....waddamatter, that the best deflection you can come up with?

[Non-Sequitur]

LIE............ McCain and others have.

Others like who?

LIE.... if he shows the long form, Occidental records and medical and they are ok, I would be convinced.

Yeah right. He could come up with all that and you be out there saying 'Yeah, but...'. You're on a fishing expedition. Why else would you give a shit about school records and medical records, which have nothing to do with his Constitutional qualification for president?

LIE....... almost all presidents release their medical records and you know it. His medical conditions past and present have everything to do with whether or not he is qualified.

Then I assume you can point me to Clinton's and Bush's and Reagan's and ....? Obama released a report from his doctor, which is pretty much what all the other's do.

I said NOT ONE with any of his family. Not one with mother, father, grandparents... NONE

Well you seemed to be asking for a group picture. But there are pictures of Obama with his mother

With his father

With his grandparents

What more do you want? And what does it prove anyway?

I have all of those photos. He is at least 3 years old in all of them and why none with his mother or grandparents?

See above.

HA... I knew it. I'll take that as a hmmmmm??

Take it any way you want.

.....Pathetic response from you.

Pathetic response to a pathetic question. You got the hots for him or Michelle? Is that it?

From what I hear, it's moving right along and it sure won't be discussed in the open forum. You have no idea what they have and what they know.

Of course it is.

[Non-Sequitur]

Evidently, we're making some head way, no thanks to the likes of you.

Headway where? Looks like the same old, same old to me.

You didn't address the fact that McCain had to show a BC, only that others didn't....waddamatter, that the best deflection you can come up with?

So what exactly forced McCain to show his birth certificate?

[Las Vegas Ron]

So what exactly forced McCain to show his birth certificate?

Umm, the libs and congress?

They started the BC issue, so we will finish it .

You know the score on McCain so don't bait me, I won't fall for it.

Go run someone else in circles

[mojitojoe]

Why else would you give a shit about school records and medical records, which have nothing to do with his Constitutional qualification for president?
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First of all, let me address your photos. What the hell do they prove. I said when he was a BABY, not when he was over 3 years old. Show me ONE photo of him in Hawaii before the age of 3. Show me one photo with any of his family before the age of 3.
I guess you aren’t the brightest bulb in the box. Medical records show childhood vaccinations. Names, addresses. When did he change his name back to Obama and stop using Barry Soetoro? Did he receive foreign aid at Occidental. If the answers to all of those pan out, then it’s a dead issue, and if the long form birth certificate matches the above. It it does, then it’s over. Not that I will ever believe they didn’t *fix* it, but regardless, it’s over. Unless prior to 2012 there is credible evidence that he can’t run again, but I have a feeling there will be tons of evidence and it won’t have a thing to do with the BC. He will fail because he’s a Marxist asshole.
He will never show those documents, never!

[mojitojoe]

You got the hots for him or Michelle? Is that it?
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I leave that up to you. I’m sure your knee pad supply is replenished frequently as you alternate bowing to photos os Lincoln and ObONGO.

[mojitojoe]

[Las Vegas Ron]

You should point out the hand on bammies back with G&G, something is very wrong with that pic.

Take out obama and slide G&G together, they fit perfectly.

[LucyT]

The third photo with the grandparents is photoshopped.

[mojitojoe]

This is stupid, because there is no evidence Obama’s legal name was anything other than Barack Obama, anyway.
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Obots out in force? You won’t find what you’re looking for. It’s all going on behind the scenes now. Not her on the public forum.
Odumbass stated he never used any names other than Barack Hussein Obama. That is a LIE. He used Barry Soetoro for years in Indonesia. He used Barry at Occidental also.

[mojitojoe]

I believe the newspaper birth announcements are genuine. The birth announcements gave the address of a UH professor in the Hawaii Kai area, which I think is probably where Obama, Sr. was living during the summer before classes started back up. I have serious doubts as to whether Obama Sr. and Ann ever set up house together; perhaps they did for a brief period immediately after the marriage.
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The Klondyke twins were born the same day. It these were automatically submitted, why is theirs missing from the papers 3 weeks prior and 3 weeks after?

[MHGinTN]

Caught another weird ‘coincidence’ today: the Dr. Nordyke clinic address is on the same avenue/street as the address listed in the newspaper list.

[mojitojoe]

Clinton didn’t. Reagan didn’t. Bush didn’t. Johnson didn’t. Nixon didn’t. Etc. Etc.
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PROVE IT. Provide links that definitively state they never showed a real birth certificate to run for public office. Did any of them have father’s that were not citizens of the U.S.?