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FACEOFF: Is Obama eligible for presidency?
http://loudobbs.tv.cnn.com/ ^ | July 17, 2009 | Lou Dobbs

Posted on 07/17/2009 2:11:19 PM PDT by pennboricua

On TV Tonight 7pm ET FACEOFF: Is Obama eligible for presidency? New questions are being raised about President Obama’s eligibility to be president. The latest comes from U.S. Army Reserve Major Stefan Cook. He refused deployment to Afghanistan. Cook claimed his orders were illegal, because President Obama wasn’t born in the United States…. making him ineligible to be president and Commander-in-chief.

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To: Velveeta
I did notice that Orly’s mic volume was set much lower than any other guests mic.

That's an old dirty trick, to make someone yell into the mike because they can't hear their voice.

181 posted on 07/17/2009 6:42:47 PM PDT by usmcobra (Your chances of dying in bed are reduced by getting out of it, but most people still die in bed)
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To: Velveeta
I think Orly’s a patriot - but frankly, her performance is not professional.

If we had real lawyers, this would have been over some time ago.

182 posted on 07/17/2009 6:43:34 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: STARWISE

http://radiotime.com/WebTuner.aspx?ProgramId=123379&TopicId=31915072&;

Jerome Corsi on Dennis Miller.


183 posted on 07/17/2009 7:04:06 PM PDT by smokingfrog (No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session. I AM JIM THOMPSON)
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To: usmcobra

I didn’t know that, but I can see how that can be the case.


184 posted on 07/17/2009 7:28:30 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: David
If we had real lawyers, this would have been over some time ago.

I greatly admire all the lawyers, who have brought this issue forward, for their courage.

Indeed, there are lawyers out there who probably have the correct tactic and the constitutional know-how to have gotten this right the first time - and before the election.

They are cowards, every last one of them, for not stepping up while our country goes to hell-in-a-handbasket by a likely usurper.

Thank God, we have patriots like Orly, Phil, Leo and the rest who will at least try to stand with heroes such as Major Cook to get to the truth.

185 posted on 07/17/2009 7:39:55 PM PDT by Velveeta
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To: norraad

I didn’t hear about that. Tell me more!


186 posted on 07/17/2009 8:18:04 PM PDT by browniexyz
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To: roaddog727

Hey! the man. I applaud all of your efforts and I hope you know all of our best wishes are with you.

But relax. Now that Dobbs has seen fit to sideswipe you (what more did you expect from Dobbs), it’s going to be Fox’s turn next. So sit tight, hang on and enjoy the ride. Your story will get out. It’s just starting.

ex animo
davidfarrar


187 posted on 07/17/2009 8:22:23 PM PDT by DavidFarrar
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To: Mpatl

Lou Dobbs state run media??? LOL!


188 posted on 07/17/2009 8:24:38 PM PDT by nufsed (Release the birth certificate, passport and school records.)
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To: Velveeta
Indeed, there are lawyers out there who probably have the correct tactic and the constitutional know-how to have gotten this right the first time - and before the election. They are cowards, every last one of them, for not stepping up while our country goes to hell-in-a-handbasket by a likely usurper.

Well that's just a wonderful thought--what do you do for a living?

Problem is that lawyers are like every one else--we all have families to feed; kids to educate at overpriced schools; most of us are out there lucky to pay our bills every month.

Real easy to assign blame--the voters; I don't know how many members we have out there who are interested in this topic but if everybody put up a hundred bucks, we ought to get to $10mm without much trouble.

A single lawyer can't win this. Because you have cases in more than one place at the same time. Tough complex cases don't get done by only the lawyers--you need lots of support.

Really easy to assign blame.

189 posted on 07/17/2009 8:30:45 PM PDT by David (...)
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To: pennboricua
Face-Off: I want to comment on that 5 to 10 minute Face-Off show tonight on CNN, Friday, July 17, 2009.

Before the host interviewed her guests, she gave a little background about the Obama eligibility issue.

1. As the host read about what people wrote about Obama's eligibility issue, I wanted to get up and shout something like this:

"People, don't you get it? There is more to Obama's eligibility issue than that he was or was not born in Hawaii.

" There is the more serious question of whether or not Obama has been lying about his background all these years.

"Hopefully, a full examination of Obama's long form birth certificate will go a long way to help us find out if Obama is who he says he is, or if he is a fraud."

2. But I didn't shout into the tv like I wanted. I just sat there and watched the very short Face-Off. And I mean short. I think that if I had blinked, I would have missed the Face-Off segment.

3. In her background segment, the host talked about how Hawaii officials said this, and even the Governor said that. That is, the Hawaii officials verified that Obama's birth certificate was stored among Hawaii's records.

4. I'm sorry, but I couldn't help but laugh when the host talked about the Hawaii officials, as if the Hawaii officials could be trusted absolutely, and so we must accept their word absolutely.

In other words, if we are to believe the pro-Obama people, there should be no more debate or questions concerning Obama's eligibility because Hawaii officials, even the Governor for pete's sake, said Obama's birth certificate was safely stored in the state of Hawaii's records.

5. Excuse me, I am just a lowly voter, but I am NOT taking the word of any bureaucrat---I don't care if it is the Republican Governor of Hawaii---that a document exists, because I want to see the document in person, or have someone I trust see it and touch it.

My point is that Hawaii bureaucrats don't get it: If Hawaii high-ranking officials like the Governor tell me that they have Obama's birth certificate on file, but they don't tell what is on that birth certificate, then, in reality, they are telling me nothing.

6. You see, the pro-Obama folks and Hawaii officials don't get it, or they pretend not to get it: I don't want to see Obama's long form birth certificate just so that I can see the word "Honolulu".

7. I want to see the names of the doctor and the birth hospital.

8. I want to see if Soetoro, Obama's stepfather, adopted Obama before Obama went to Indonesia as a little boy. (To me, this Soetoro situation could be Obama's 600 pound gorilla in the room, because if it is found that Obama was adopted by Soetoro, then Obama and his high-priced lawyers have a lot of explaining to do.)

9. I want to see the name of Obama's father, because if it is not Barack Obama, then Obama has been telling us a lie all this time.

10. Also, remember that Obama has posted his "birth certificate" on his fight the smears site, so if the details on the long form birth certificate are different in any way from the fight the smears birth certificate, then, again, Obama and his high-priced lawyers have a lot of explaining to do.

11. We must always remember that the Obama supporters are very clever.

12. They cleverly try to keep the focus on the city and state on the birth certificate. They argue that if the words "Honolulu" and "Hawaii" are on the birth certifcate, then that proves beyond a shadow of a doubt that Obama was born in Hawaii and is eligible to run for President of the United States.

13. The Obama supporters also argue that once it is VERIFIED that Obama was born in Honolulu, then it is clear sailing for Obama to easily win a second term, and so-called birthers--- a name for crazy anti-Obama people---can go into the holes that they crawled out of and go screw themselves.

14. But I say this: I want to see Obama's long form birth certificate for myself, and I am not going to take the word of any high-ranking Hawaii bureaucrat, not even the word of the Governor, that Obama's birth certificate is safely stored in Hawaii's records.

15. Again, I want to know if Soetoro, Obama's stepfather, is on the birth certificate.

16. And I want to know the names of Obama's birth doctor and birth hospital so that I can talk to the doctor, if he is still alive, and to the hospital officials to verify that Obama is who he says he is.

17. We must keep the pressure on Obama the rest of his 3 1/2 year term, because if we keep up the pressure, at some point, Obama will have to respond to the growing public outcry as to why Obama won't allow Hawaii to release his long form birth certificate and why Obama won't allow colleges Occidental, Columbia, and Harvard to release his college records.

18. This is what disturbs me about the pro-Obama people: They argue loud and clear that there is no reason for anyone to see Obama's Hawaii long form birth certificate, while, on the other hand, they meekly hand over their children's birth certificates so that their children can play Little League or high school sports.

Go figure.

190 posted on 07/17/2009 9:15:16 PM PDT by john mirse
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To: pennboricua

Well, this thing has hit the mainstream media finally. Now we shall see if it even matters.


191 posted on 07/17/2009 11:30:41 PM PDT by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)
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To: hoosiermama; Polarik; pissant; David; Candor7; george76; patriot08; ckilmer; stockpirate; ...
Linda Lingle was miss [sic] quoted...

Sorry, hoosiermama, but I have no sympathy for the Governess of Hawaii in this discussion. If she had any guts and if the Obama record on file in the state health department stated he was born abroad, she should have let the world know unequivocally, rather than hiding behind O's alleged privacy rights under Hawaii state law. The Constitution of the United States, which Ms. Lingle is sworn to uphold, takes precedence over Hawaii statutory law. The Constitution is the supreme law of the land!

192 posted on 07/18/2009 7:28:05 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: Hang'emAll

I watched it last night. Lou wasn’t there, but his brunette sort-of co anchorette was asking the questions.

And was she ever condescending! Claiming that the issue was settled because the birth certificate had been online and everybody has seen and touched it — all lies, of course.

If Lou is doing this again tonight then the email must have been scathing about the way in which it was handled last night.


193 posted on 07/18/2009 7:35:38 AM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: Islam=Murder
Lou Dobbs Fill in Pilgram: "Overwhelming Evidence Obama's Birth Cert. is Real." Does Dobbs Know?
194 posted on 07/18/2009 8:58:06 AM PDT by Creme Brulee
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To: browniexyz
Tell me more!

Well, by hilterest I mean Obooboo temper has begun to show, like the little boy who realizes he's not going to get what he wants and throws a tantrum in a last ditch effort to get his way.

And the birth cert. card was held in check as a plug to pull in case the Obamanation operation went sour.

I don't know why we think Sneakyman Inc. would ever give up covert control of Operation White House.

The Bush Junta edited by Mack White & Gary Groth (very inexpensive book on Amazon) is a great start for background details and other reference information on Sneakyman Inc..

195 posted on 07/18/2009 9:24:52 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: Creme Brulee

Thanks for the link!

Omoslem is hiding something.

When we finally get that birth certificate (or college records), approx 30 liberals owe me dinner.


196 posted on 07/18/2009 9:35:42 AM PDT by Islam=Murder (Omoslem, show us your original Birth Certificate!!)
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To: RinaseaofDs
he thing about ALL of this that is so absurd is that it ends if he shells out the document.

You're right. It ends Obama's reign as he is charged with multiple counts of fraud.

197 posted on 07/18/2009 10:04:18 AM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: Redder Than Redhead; null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; ...
Obama still has not shown a legitimate birth certificate. How did we Americans let this happen?

By being silent between June and November of last year.

198 posted on 07/18/2009 10:06:17 AM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: Creme Brulee; null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...
There's no evidence at all that Obama has an actual paper Birth Certificate sealed in an envelope and sitting in a vault somewhere in the bowels of Hawaii's DOH.

There's conclusive evidence that Obama does not have, nor ever had, a paper "Certification of Live Birth."

The only thing America has ever seen is a forgery.

199 posted on 07/18/2009 11:13:56 AM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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To: SatinDoll; null and void; Beckwith; stockpirate; PhilDragoo; Candor7; MeekOneGOP; Myrddin; ...
And was she ever condescending! Claiming that the issue was settled because the birth certificate had been online and everybody has seen and touched it — all lies, of course.

Hence my call to arms for everyone to contact people in the media and tell them that there is nothing but a forgery posted online and that Hawaii never issued a 2007 COLB to Obama.

200 posted on 07/18/2009 11:15:57 AM PDT by Polarik (Obama: When destroying America is not enough.)
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