Posted on 06/14/2009 9:53:57 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
Is there any grain of truth in this squib I received from a contact? I don't cotton to posting rumor but this is kinda like the attempt to make wounded vets pay for their own medical care.
Date: Thursday, June 4, 2009, 12:06 AM
Secretary of Defense Robert Gates is extremely frustrated with orders that the White House is contemplating. According to sources at the Pentagon, including all branches of the armed forces, the Obama Administration may break with a centuries-old tradition.
A spokesman for General James Cartwright, the Vice Chairman of the Jo int Chiefs of Staff, states that the Obama Administration wants to have soldiers and officers pledge a loyalty oath directly to the office of the President, and no longer to the Constitution.
"The oath to the Constitution is as old as the document itself." the spokesman said, "At no time in American history, not even in the Civil War, did the oath change or the subject of the oath differ. It has always been to the Constitution."
The back-and-forth between the White House and the Defense Department was expected as President George W. Bush left office. President Obama has already signed orders to close Guantanamo and to pull combat troops from Iraq But, this, say many at the Defense Department, goes too far.
"Technically, we can't talk about it before it becomes official policy." the spokesman continued. "However, the Defense Department, including the Secretary, will not take this laying down. Expect a fight from the bureaucracy and the brass."
Sources at the White House had a different point of view. In a circular distributed by White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, the rationale for the change was made more clear.
"The President feels that the military has been too indoctrinated by the old harbingers of hate: nationalism, racism, and classism. By removing an oath to the American society, the soldiers are less likely to commit atrocities like those at Abu Ghraib."
"We expect a lot of flak over this," the classified memo continues. "But those that would be most against it are those looking either for attention or control."
The time frame for the changes are unknown. However, it is more likely that the changes will be made around the July 4th holiday, in order to dampen any potential backlash. The difference in the oath will actually only be slight. The main differences will be the new phrasing. It is expected that the oath to the Constitution will be entirely phased out within two years.
This is a hoax.
Son of a bitch!
And on the 4th of July.
Let him just try. He doesn’t want to be president he wants to be a damn dictator. I hope it invalidates everyones oath and there is mass desertion. What will they do if someone refuses to take the new oath?
I doubt it.
You don’t have to change the Constitution to totally disregard it. Same with oaths of office, including for SCOTUS.
Check snopes first. This was tagged as satire according to snopes. “http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/oath.asp";
The actual blog site entry: http://jumpinginpools.blogspot.com/2009/01/military-to-pledge-oath-to-obama-not.html
Wednesday, January 28, 2009
Military to Pledge Oath To Obama, Not Constitution
Conservative News and Reporting
“News for the Rest of Us”
Michele Chang
NOTE: This article is, in fact, a satire piece. While you’re here, read other articles, like Obama going on the quarter, how he’s genetically superior, and how he took down Blago. And you can also check out Joe’s Babe of the Week, which comes out every Friday. And become a fan and return and tell your friends. Word up.
For those who like this satire, buy my book, The Real History of World War II.
NOTE: This article did not appear in, or was sanctioned in any way by the National Law Journal.
Secretary of Defense Robert Gates is extremely frustrated with orders that the White House is contemplating. According to sources at the Pentagon, including all branches of the armed forces, the Obama Administration may break with a centuries-old tradition.
A spokesman for General James Cartwright, the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, states that the Obama Administration wants to have soldiers and officers pledge a loyalty oath directly to the office of the President, and no longer to the Constitution.
“The oath to the Constitution is as old as the document itself.” the spokesman said, “At no time in American history, not even in the Civil War, did the oath change or the subject of the oath differ. It has always been to the Constitution.”
The back-and-forth between the White House and the Defense Department was expected as President George W. Bush left office. President Obama has already signed orders to close Guantanamo and to pull combat troops from Iraq. But, this, say many at the Defense Department, goes too far.
“Technically, we can’t talk about it before it becomes official policy.” the spokesman continued. “However, the Defense Department, including the Secretary, will not take this laying down. Expect a fight from the bureaucracy and the brass.”
Sources at the White House had a different point of view. In a circular distributed by White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs, the rationale for the change was made more clear.
“The President feels that the military has been too indoctrinated by the old harbingers of hate: nationalism, racism, and classism. By removing an oath to the American society, the soldiers are less likely to commit atrocities like those at Abu Ghraib.”
“We expect a lot of flak over this,” the classified memo continues. “But those that would be most against it are those looking either for attention or control.”
The time frame for the changes are unknown. However, it is more likely that the changes will be made around the July 4th holiday, in order to dampen any potential backlash. The difference in the oath will actually only be slight. The main differences will be the new phrasing. It is expected that the oath to the Constitution will be entirely phased out within two years.
That’s how Adolph Hitler did it.
Certainly not intended to be a hoax by me. Just wanting to see if anyone else knew anything about it. I did a search for news and did not find anything but I am not very trusting of searches either.
Absolutely a hoax. Obama might wish to do it, but it will not happen.
This is hogwash.
1. O doesn’t have the authority to accomplish this alone.
2. The Congress would never allow it.
3. It could only come about under marital law.
4. If it did come about, we would already be in a SHTF scenario and it would not mean much.
4. O and his handlers are agressive but not entirely reckless, they will have noticed such an exact same tatic did not work out well for Hitler.
Thanks but there has been a lot of satire lately that sounds plausible given ZERO’s prior actions. I expect any day now he will declare some kind of national emergency and establish martial law by executive order.
The officer’s oath is one link we have with hope in my humble opinion. A remnant that this is a nation of laws and not “officials”.
Many of the concepts that I thought too radical to come to fruition have already occurred. I can’t logically pass this off as a simple rumor. Way too much. Way too fast. He’s going to push as far as he can.
“A spokesman for General James Cartwright, the Vice Chairman of the Jo int Chiefs of Staff, states that the Obama Administration wants to have soldiers and officers pledge a loyalty oath directly to the office of the President, and no longer to the Constitution.”
The way Hitler gained control
I call BS
PING me if you hear otherwise, but if you were a young man, recently enlisted into the military, and ready to take the oath what are the chances that you would swear loyalty to Obama instead of the Constitution??
Men and women who choose to serve would notice this switcheroo in lingo.
I love this country. I have several generations of family who have served, includeing 2 who gave all.
Currently, I would not council my own children (who are too young anyway) to enlist under the current administration. Not that I wouldn’t be proud to have them serve our nation, but I would be concerned what they might be asked to do, whether leadership, up to the Commander-in-Chief, had my childrens’ best interests at heart.
I’ve heard it hypothesized that Gates has actually remained in place that he might adquately protect the military from what the administration might like to do to it. Don’t know how much of this may be fact or fiction??
My hat is off to those who are in the military and currently serve, including a cousin in Iraq and another in the USN. I would not want my children to serve under Obama.
In theory, what would happen if an officer refused such a new twist on the Oath?
That person would be dealt with by officers who had taken a somewhat different oath.
I don’t believe this would happen but if it did, Obama better remember that there are a good many that have taken the “Oath” and regardless of what he does, we will keep it.
For sure.
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