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Stone Age Superglue Found -- Hints at Unknown Smarts?
National Geographic News ^ | May 11, 2009 | Ker Than

Posted on 05/12/2009 5:05:01 AM PDT by decimon

Stone Age humans were adept chemists who whipped up a sophisticated kind of natural glue, a new study says.

They knowingly tweaked the chemical and physical properties of an iron-containing pigment known as red ochre with the gum of acacia trees to create adhesives for their shafted tools.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.nationalgeographic.com ...


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To: decimon
getting government out of the marriage business. I think that's where the problems begin.

Absolutely. The nomenclature problem (big words!) exists because government enshrined into law the term "marriage" when no viable alternative to traditional marriage existed. Now that we are investigating the notion of "alternative" unions we need new vocabulary, but the inefficient govt bureaucracy isn't about to redefine all the tax regulations, etc. in this political climate. There are other issues at play.

And in the end you are absolutely right as I said above, the govt should never has stuck its nose into these things.

That whole lesson about rendering unto Caesar seems very appropriate here.

21 posted on 05/12/2009 6:15:48 AM PDT by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: paulycy
It also means that humans have solved these issues, such as gay marriage, ages ago and there are serious, practical and pragmatic reasons for why things are the way they are whether or not they are enshrined in religious documents. Religion, in addition to the worship of God, was really the only "history" and "rule of law" we had for millenia.

Cultures that tolerated certain behaviors were less likely to survive than cultures that suppressed certain behaviors. After millennia, the traditions of surviving cultures represent a large amount of institutionalized wisdom on how to conduct a lasting society.

22 posted on 05/12/2009 6:25:28 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money -- Thatcher)
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To: PapaBear3625
the traditions of surviving cultures represent a large amount of institutionalized wisdom on how to conduct a lasting society.

Yes. And the Founding Fathers did a pretty great job codifying the lessons learned through the ages, and through the judeo/christian principles of the Bible, into a cohesive philosophy of governing provided in the Declaration of Independence, the Constitution, Federalist Papers, etc.

It is the greatest "plan" humans have ever made, IMO, and it is based on the best understanding and selective use of that institutionalized wisdom you speak of.

23 posted on 05/12/2009 6:34:53 AM PDT by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: paulycy

Great ideas have been disappearing for a long time...

“Hey, Ungaunga, Hold ma club and watch this!”


24 posted on 05/12/2009 6:36:59 AM PDT by Skenderbej
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To: Skenderbej
“Hey, Ungaunga, Hold ma club and watch this!”

Dare we mention the Darwin Awards on this thread? Oh, no!

25 posted on 05/12/2009 6:54:08 AM PDT by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
When you consider how advanced the classical world was and then realize it wasn’t until the renaissance - like 1000 years later - that mankind caught up and surpassed the ancients.

More accurately, western Europe went thru this collapse and rebirth.

Chinese and Indian civilizations, among others, were unaffected, although they had their own problems.

The classical world also had some truly amazing blind spots from our perspective. There was very little actual technological advancement (except in architecture) from 300 BC to 300 AD, roughly when the slide started.

In fact, you can make a very good case that art and literature went downhill dramatically over this period.

A major reason for this stagnation is likely the ancient world's dependence on slavery and the resultant isolation of educated men from the world of "stuff." Gentlemen and scholars just didn't muck around with glassware and bits of string, or they lost caste. This made the development of anything like true science impossible.

The authoritarian and increasingly totalitarian Roman state was also highly suspicious of anything that might lead to change. Ironic, sincee the development of true science might have allowed their civilization to survive by providing better weapons.

26 posted on 05/12/2009 7:04:18 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: decimon
Stone Age Superglue Found -- Hints at Unknown Smarts?

Stone age superglue? No. Now if they'd found evidence of stone age duct tape....

27 posted on 05/12/2009 7:06:09 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: silverleaf
the annunaki taught them well

My thinking also.

28 posted on 05/12/2009 7:15:57 AM PDT by Oatka ("A society of sheep must in time beget a government of wolves." –Bertrand de Jouvenel)
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To: Sherman Logan

Great post!


29 posted on 05/12/2009 7:22:19 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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Thanks decimon.

There was an article about prehistoric (maybe Neandertal?) "superglue" used to hold axe heads on the handles, or something. I just don't want to look. ;')

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30 posted on 05/12/2009 6:29:55 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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To: decimon

All this proves is they are smarter than me. Big deal.


31 posted on 05/12/2009 6:46:57 PM PDT by spyone (ridiculum)
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To: paulycy
*gentle cough* Actually it's shrunk.

One doesn't need to be as smart to live in a civilized society, even if one isn't living on welfare...

32 posted on 05/12/2009 9:36:53 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 113 of our national holiday from reality.)
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To: Sherman Logan

I think we’ve already lost considerable continuity, too.

As recently as 50 years ago (or even less?), we had the serial family under one roof.

Mom and Dad had kids, the sons brought their wives home and either lived under the same roof or built a house on the same property as Mom and Dad. The daughters went to live in their husbands’ serial homes.

You had a knowledgebase onsite in the elders and cross-pollination too. The daughters both took skills with them and shared skills back to the birth family.

Now, both my mother and FrogDad’s have said that they “don’t want to be a burden on their children” and refuse to move in with anyone. So I can’t datamine either of them in any meaningful way for canning info, quilting info, wives remedies, family history, etc. All that will be lost soon.

Where/when did the burden thing happen? I’d have loved to be able to go for a walk alone with my husband and had a grandmother or two in the house to watch the children.


33 posted on 05/12/2009 9:58:16 PM PDT by FrogMom (No such thing as an honest democrat!)
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To: spyone
All this proves is they are smarter than me.

C'mon, I'll bet you've glued yourself to something.

34 posted on 05/13/2009 2:39:06 AM PDT by decimon
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To: paulycy

......It also means that humans have solved these issues.....

The whole reason for being liberal is to throw off those outmoded restrictions and live in the enlightened new age


35 posted on 05/13/2009 4:48:51 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Crucify ! Crucify ! Crucify him!!)
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To: Skenderbej

Like concrete. The Romans had it, a Brit rediscovered it 1200 years later.

If all you have are sticks and rocks, you’ll figure out ways to use them in ways that would astound us enlightened folks. Nothing new under the sun. Human ingenuity abides.


36 posted on 05/13/2009 9:48:17 AM PDT by Darth Tokarev (Liberalism: Using intellectualism to justify moral cowardice.)
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To: bert
The whole reason for being liberal is to throw off those outmoded restrictions and live in the enlightened new age

You're not very enlightened if you throw the baby out with the bath water or you kill the golden goose. But only a conservative would know that (or say it using old wisdom.)

37 posted on 05/14/2009 1:22:56 AM PDT by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: bert
The whole reason for being liberal is to throw off those outmoded restrictions and live in the enlightened new age

You're not very enlightened if you throw the baby out with the bath water or you kill the golden goose. But only a conservative would know that (or say it using old wisdom.)

38 posted on 05/14/2009 1:23:23 AM PDT by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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To: paulycy

Things that are considered old-fashioned, traditional or religious like family structure, morality and work ethic survived because they worked. It’s a shame that every few generations we have learn that all over again.


39 posted on 05/14/2009 2:01:50 AM PDT by this_ol_patriot (I saw manbearpig and all I got was this lousy tagline.)
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To: this_ol_patriot
It’s a shame that every few generations we have learn that all over again.

Yep. We've been reinventing civilization's wheel since the 60s. I hope we learn our lesson, again.

40 posted on 05/14/2009 3:02:10 AM PDT by paulycy (BEWARE the LIBERAL/MEDIA Complex)
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