Posted on 04/26/2009 11:09:43 AM PDT by Perdogg
ESPN's Chris Mortensen reports that Tony Dungy will meet with suspended QB Michael Vick in early May. Dungy is expected to be a kind of sponsor for Vick as he attempts to achieve reinstatement. Mortensen also said that Vick is very likely to be let back in the league this season.
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Black supercedes everything
Laws are
While I’m as disgusted with Vick’s conduct as anyone, I think we’ve long since dispensed with any notion that professional athletes are expected to be exemplars of civic virtue. There are far worse thugs than Vick in the NFL. They’re paid to play a game for the entertainment of others because they’re good at that game.
Anyone who is seriously bothered by his reinstatement is free to quit watching. Frankly, I doubt many will. If Dungy can get Vick to clean up his act, more power to him.
I also saw dog fighting when I was in korea, well accepted too, course they ate dogs also.
I don't care where you find Indians, they practice their culture and don't give a hoot what the law says or what anybody thinks; you ain't gonna change them either. Guess that you've never been around Indians to know that though.
Just wait until the do gooders, touchy feely crowd decides something as American as Apple Pie is no longer acceptable in our modern society. You'll lose your freedom quick and then wonder how it happened. Animals were put on this earth for the use of man; not the otherway around.
This isn't Korea. It's well accepted kill your daughter in Pakistan if she's raped - should that practice be accepted here just because it's accepted there. No.
Michael Vick plead guilt to both Federal and State felonies. No one but Michael Vick is responsible for ruining his career. He made his own decisions to break the law so he could incrementally increase his enormous wealth by using animals contrary to the laws of every county and state in the country.
This low life should never be allowed to play in the NFL again.
So, in other words; He’s guilty. Yeah, we got the message. But when have we as a society moved beyond the point where we don’t accept penance anymore? I hated Vick for what he did too. My son tore the cover off his Madden NFL game that had Vick front and center, he hates the number 7 and won’t wear a uniform with it on. HOWEVER, I don’t want my son learning that people can’t return from the bottom; from committing a crime of stupidity; and return as fully functioning members of society. Vick lost it all. Lost $110 million, went bankrupt and spent two years in jail... shall we keep flogging him until he goes and hangs himself? I don’t like the drunk driving, steroid taking, gang-banging, no-account attitude of some of the NFL players either; but you can say that type of behavior dominates the league. Goodell has done a great job cracking down on this type of behavior, and I hope he continues to set a higher bar than that the NFL has aspired to over the last couple of decades.
At some point, an organization that wants to set an example and attract not only the best athletes, but also athletes that the sponsors can be proud to promote, has to draw the line. Michael Vick did much more than "make a stupid mistake" as you put it. A mistake is forgetting your anniversary or your sons birthday.
What Vick did was conspire over a period of many years (almost 7 years to be exact) to breed, raise, train (using grotesque and unspeakable techniques) dogs to fight each other, usually to the death all for the financial benefit of Vick's personal friends as well as himself to the tune of $20K a fight. That's not a mistake. That's an intentional criminal conspiracy that broke state and federal laws.
To compound matters, Vick and his criminal conspirators, would kill under performing or severely injured dogs by hanging, electrocution, beating and drowning. They didn't do this by mistake, and they didn't do it just once. They killed probably hundreds. Investigators found the remains of 30 dogs on Vick's property, but believed that because of the size of the operation, many dozens more were unaccounted for.
I would invite you to read the 19 page indictment. What the government alleged and Vick pleaded guilty to is the making of a low-budget Hollywood gore movie.
Big mistake if Goodell reinstates him.
Same thought here. How ANYONE can rationalize dog fighting as a ‘sport’ boggles the mind.
Playing in the NFL is a privilege, not a ‘right’. Vick’s a sociapath. Period.
I’m with you 100%. I can’t believe Roger Goodell would even consider allowing this. If Michael Vick ever shows his face in my stadium, I’ll be in my front row seat dressed in a dog costume barking at him as loud as I can.
Shame on the NFL.
I agree. It’s reprehensible. There is no justification. I think his past actions were revolting and sickening. I understand and have a grasp of the charges that were leveled against him and what he pled to; not because I care, but because the case was a riveting example of how far someone can fall from grace. I also agree with the fact that the NFL needs to choose how they want the organization to be represented. That being said, I stand by my statement that once people pay for their crimes, and he did both confess and show remorse, that they have served their debt to society and paid for their sins. Should I then be judge and jury and exile him for life? If he is the best at his position (which I don’t think he is, but that’s another story), if someone wants him and is willing to hire him, then he deserves another chance at life. Anything less is as inhumane as what he did to those animals.
Fair enough. I understand Vick is writing or has written a book about his fall and his time in prison. It'll will be interest how contrite he is and where the proceeds of that book are going.
Amen!
Now I just hope Mike Brown the "redeemer" doesn't give him a chance.
Exactly.
I can't wait til the fist time Vick plays in front of the dog pound in Cleveland. It will make TV history.
sometimes I feel if Vick killed a human, nobody would’ve cared...
It shouldn't be accepted there, either.
The fact is, not all cultures are created equal. Some cultures are superior to others. Ours, for instance.
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