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You Don’t Trust Creationists With Your Science Education Here’s Why You Shouldn’t Trust Their Lawyer
http://evaluatingchristianity.wordpress.com/2009/04/22/you-dont-trust-creationists-with-your-science-education-heres-why-you-shouldnt-trust-their-lawyers-either/ ^

Posted on 04/24/2009 8:47:19 PM PDT by DevNet

Apparently, the briefs were written by the ICR’s own James J.S. Johnson, whom FindLaw describes as a “family lawyer.” Mr. Johnson is not listed in Martindale-Hubbell (which is where you should go to read peer reviews on anyone you’re thinking of hiring as a lawyer), but he does write some crazy, crazy stuff for ICR’s website. (ICR’s local counsel in Texas seems to be the firm of Adams, Lynch & Loftin, P.C., but they do not appear to be actively involved in the litigation so far.)

I should add that “family law” generally means as “divorce law,” and in general, I would not trust a divorce lawyer to bring a sec. 1983 compliant in federal court, any more than I would feel qualified to represent someone in divorce proceedings. There are very few hard-and-fast specialties in the law (with the exception of people like bankruptcy lawyers, who have their own bar and own courts) — so this isn’t unethical or illegal, but it is very, very weird. If you called me up and asked me to incorporate your business in Delaware or represent you at a custody hearing, I would very politely refer you to one of my colleagues who actually does that sort of work for a living. It’s not like we have a shortage of lawyers in this country or anything. :)

With that in mind, the first thing that strikes me about the complaint is the bizarre, blog-like use of bold, italics, underline, large and small caps, different fonts and different font sizes — all in the first two pages. No sensible litigator would file something that looks like this in federal court.

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TOPICS: Science; Society
KEYWORDS: biology; evolution; fauxscience; junkscience; oldearthspeculation; religionofatheism; science; scienceeducation; trollsonparade; urlisnotthesource
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To: DevNet
What do you mean my *that scientific methodology has brought this nation*? I rather enjoy all that technology has brought this nation - our high level of technology allows us to have the strongest most powerful military in the history of the planet How is that a bad thing?

I guess I have missed out on the 'technology' that has resulted in teaching young minds of mush they are offspring over time from great apes.

Look who is in control of all that technology and powerful military. HOW did that happen?

21 posted on 04/24/2009 9:23:10 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Bama and Company are reenacting the Pharaoh as told by Moses in Genesis!!!!!)
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To: Jukeman

No - you are Jukeman and I hate crime to!


22 posted on 04/24/2009 9:26:53 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: Ron Jeremy
Ironically, you typed that on a computer, hooked up to the internet.

I do NOT get this supposed irony. What does my typing, on a computer, plugged into a power source that gives me access to the internet to answer your comment, have anything to do with the claim that humanity came from a primordial hot steaming pot of pond scum?

23 posted on 04/24/2009 9:27:57 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Bama and Company are reenacting the Pharaoh as told by Moses in Genesis!!!!!)
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To: Just mythoughts

None of that would exist with out science.


24 posted on 04/24/2009 9:29:09 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet
None of that would exist with out science.

What is this thing you call science? And who decided who would be in control over this thing you call science?

25 posted on 04/24/2009 9:42:13 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Bama and Company are reenacting the Pharaoh as told by Moses in Genesis!!!!!)
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To: Just mythoughts

Why don’t you tell me?


26 posted on 04/24/2009 9:45:42 PM PDT by DevNet (What's past is prologue)
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To: DevNet

You hate crime “to” - what?


27 posted on 04/24/2009 9:51:43 PM PDT by Jukeman
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To: DevNet
Why don’t you tell me?

Tell you what? This is your thread, and I can only guess that you are in the don't trust creationists nor their lawyers, camp.

I responded to the notion this is about 'trust', and that is what got my interest in your post. And you made a claim things would not exist without science. My question was what is this thing you call science.

28 posted on 04/24/2009 9:52:06 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Bama and Company are reenacting the Pharaoh as told by Moses in Genesis!!!!!)
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To: Just mythoughts
Perhaps the next time you are sick, you can tell the doctors not to use any of that science or technology for your treatment.
29 posted on 04/24/2009 10:00:01 PM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at I00 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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To: trumandogz
Perhaps the next time you are sick, you can tell the doctors not to use any of that science or technology for your treatment.

Science? Are you using that word as an object?

30 posted on 04/24/2009 10:13:20 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Bama and Company are reenacting the Pharaoh as told by Moses in Genesis!!!!!)
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To: DevNet

INTREP


31 posted on 04/24/2009 10:17:30 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (When do the impeachment proceedings begin?)
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32 posted on 04/24/2009 11:02:37 PM PDT by Fichori (The only bailout I'm interested in is the one where the entire Democrat party leaves the county)
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To: DevNet

“Considering Christian apologetics from an atheist’s perspective.
Okay, some quick background on the issue, taken from NCSE Reports, Mar-Apr 2008.”

Even as one outside the Creationist’s camp I find your post and the article silly. And tiresome.
The atheistic evolutionists have panicked at the idea that world may not have to bend the knee to them in all matters concerning Science.

The Temple of Darwinism is just a mausoleum tarted up.


33 posted on 04/25/2009 1:45:39 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: HospiceNurse

What do think the NCSE is all about? In their own words it exists to keep evolution in the teachings of pubic schools and creationism out.

And according to its Executive Director, Eugenie Scott,
“Evolution applies to astronomy, physics, chemistry, biochemistry, anthropology, biology, geology — you name the field, and evolution will relate to it, like as not.”
(Quoted from Debates and the Globetrotters at The TalkOrigins Archive)
Copyright © 1994-1997 by Eugenie Scott)

“you name the field.....” and evolution applies!


34 posted on 04/25/2009 2:27:22 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Just mythoughts

The irony is that while typing on a computer connected to the internet you said “look where scientific methodology has brought the country”. Without scientific methodology, there would be no computers and there would be no internet. Pretty straight-forward.


35 posted on 04/25/2009 8:45:54 AM PDT by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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To: Just mythoughts; DevNet

Science is the systematic observation of natural events and conditions in order to discover facts about them and to formulate laws and principles based on these facts. 2. the organized body of knowledge that is derived from such observations and that can be verified or tested by further investigation. 3. any specific branch of this general body of knowledge, such as biology, physics, geology, or astronomy.

Nobody decided who would be in control. As a “conservative” you should like the idea that there is no government body controlling it.


36 posted on 04/25/2009 8:48:50 AM PDT by Ron Jeremy (sonic)
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To: Ron Jeremy
The irony is that while typing on a computer connected to the internet you said “look where scientific methodology has brought the country”. Without scientific methodology, there would be no computers and there would be no internet. Pretty straight-forward.

Even greater irony to me is that unless and until I physically sit in front of and physically stroke the keyboard the results from that scientific methodology sits very quite and idle.

37 posted on 04/27/2009 8:30:18 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Bama and Company are reenacting the Pharaoh as told by Moses in Genesis!!!!!)
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To: Ron Jeremy
Science is the systematic observation of natural events and conditions in order to discover facts about them and to formulate laws and principles based on these facts. 2. the organized body of knowledge that is derived from such observations and that can be verified or tested by further investigation. 3. any specific branch of this general body of knowledge, such as biology, physics, geology, or astronomy. Nobody decided who would be in control. As a “conservative” you should like the idea that there is no government body controlling it.

Conservatism functioned far more efficiently and without intrusion prior to the reemergence of that eons old 'systematic observing methodology' got declared the law of the land.

Keyword here is 'systematic' as in system think. The 'system' think as ordained as in an attempt to replicate Moses bringing down the TEN COMMANDMENTS, is at the very core of big and bigger and now biggest possible government the system can legislate. Remember you did say science through 'systematic' observation ...... formulate laws and principles based on these FACTS.... When in FACT evolution from that great mythical primordial hot steaming pot of pond scum, is a delusion upon which system think is founded.... More laws formulated from system think ... but for the sole purpose of system preservation. NOTHING conservative about any of the system think.

38 posted on 04/27/2009 8:43:47 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Bama and Company are reenacting the Pharaoh as told by Moses in Genesis!!!!!)
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