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Thomas Frazier, father of 14 children, jailed for owing more than half-million in child support
Flint News ^ | April 11, 2009 | Bryn Mickle

Posted on 04/12/2009 11:51:53 AM PDT by fella

Thomas Frazier, father of 14 children, jailed for owing more than half-million in child support

by Bryn Mickle | The Flint Journal

Saturday April 11, 2009, 8:00 AM

FLINT, Michigan -- Fourteen children by 13 different women in Genesee County and more than $530,000 in unpaid child support.

Even in a county with $700 million in uncollected child support, Thomas Frazier may hold the unenviable title of biggest deadbeat dad.

After years of dodging support payments, Frazier was thrown in jail this week and given the choice of doing 90 days or coming up with about $28,000.

"This guy gives fathers a bad name," said Genesee County Friend of the Court Jack Battles.

Thomas Frazier

Before leaving the Flint area in 2002, Frazier amassed court cases for 14 children born since 1989 and has not paid any money on any of his Genesee County child support cases in at least the past six years, according to court records.

Frazier, 42, portrays himself as the victim.

The victim of a system that he says saddled him with debt for children he claims aren't all his and the victim of a poor upbringing that he said caused him to seek affection from older women.

"I tried to find someone who would love me for me," said Frazier, who believes he may have fathered his first child at age 15.

Authorities say Frazier is a serial womanizer who bounces from state to state and hasn't paid child support in years.

Frazier owes Talisha Tyler about $40,000 for a 14-year-old daughter. Tyler said he has never even bought so much as a diaper.

"Thomas has never been involved in her life -- period," said Tyler.

A Genesee County judge on Thursday ordered Frazier to spend 90 days in jail unless he comes up with $4,100 for Tyler.

Even if he comes up with that money, the judge ordered him to spend 90 days in jail on another case. On top of that, the judge gave him 45 days jail on six other cases.

In all, Frazier is looking at three months in jail unless he comes up with at least $27,900.

Tyler would just as soon see him go to prison for much longer.

"He's a fast talker," she said. "He's not going to pay it."

Frazier doesn't dispute that he owes a sizable amount, but said it was unrealistic for the county to expect him to pay so much support.

"At one point, I owed like $3,000 (a month)," he said. "Nobody makes that much."

He said he believes in his hear that only three of the children -- two daughters and a son -- are actually his.

The rest, he says, were born of women he may have slept with but who lied and claimed he was the father, giving the court false addresses for Frazier so that he could never show up to contest paternity.

Local officials, however, say Frazier has a story for everything.

In October, Friend of the Court officials said Frazier gave them a false Social Security number and tried to convince investigators he was someone else.

He remained under the radar until late last month when he got pulled over in Iowa for a broken taillight on his Mercedes Benz.

In his pocket, police found $5,000 in cash and plane tickets to Florida.

Frazier said he is unemployed and local officials said they do not know what he does for a living.

Frazier said he was actually on his way back to Flint and planned to use the $5,000 as a good faith payment on his child support.

The cop tossed him in jail on child support warrants and then had him delivered Wednesday to the Genesee County Jail.

Frazier says he "messed up" and wants to take care of his mistakes, but hopes the Friend of the Court will knock down his bill to a more manageable $200,000 and set him free.

"There's not a lot I can do in jail," Frazier said.

Frazier's plan for freedom won't get a lot of support from the Friend of the Court.

"We will seek prison," said Battles, who says he's heard a litany of excuses from Frazier.

Battles said he's willing to work with Frazier but said it's going to take a lot more than $5,000.

"It will take six digits," said Battles.

His current jail term aside, Frazier is also looking at further legal woes for his probation violation cases.

Genesee County Prosecutor David Leyton is not in a forgiving mood, noting that Frazier was rolling around in Mercedes Benz with thousands of dollars and plane tickets at the same time he wasn't paying his child support.

"Shame on him for abandoning his children while he lives 'The Life of Riley,'" said Leyton.

Frazier, who has already spent five years on probation for attempted non support of a child, does have one piece of advice for his children.

"Use a condom," he said. "You don't want to end up like your dad."


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To: Mister Muggles

13 women who’d take that into their beds?


21 posted on 04/12/2009 1:43:56 PM PDT by heartwood
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To: packrat35
While I don’t condone what this man has done, it is foolish to jail him or even expect him to pay over $500,000 in child support. He will NEVER have it and to continue to expect fairy-tale cash is just stupid.

Hmmmmmmmmmmm............... Yeah, that's the ticket................. This is grounds for another federal bailout plan ........... "Do it for the children, don't ya know........................... And just think of all the RAT voters it will create...................... All that free money floating around in an ever expanding hood..................................................................... A community organizers wet dream come true.

22 posted on 04/12/2009 1:49:56 PM PDT by fella (.He that followeth after vain persons shall have poverty enough." Pv.28:19')
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To: mowowie

I’ve had a goodly number of $3000+ days.

Unfortunately, these were often interspersed with weeks or even months of very little income at all.

Depends on how you get paid.


23 posted on 04/12/2009 5:06:15 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Everyone has a right to his own opinion, but not to his own facts.)
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To: sickoflibs

ping


24 posted on 04/12/2009 5:51:36 PM PDT by GOPJ (Iraq trip: Obama should have bowed to the troops - not to King Abdullah.)
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To: fella

Ummmm, if this guy had any intention whatsoever of paying, he would have paid by now. Jail might give him some “thinkin’ time”... he needs it.


25 posted on 04/12/2009 5:53:23 PM PDT by GOPJ (Iraq trip: Obama should have bowed to the troops - not to King Abdullah.)
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To: GOPJ

Thanks, I can see this guy is not going to get much sympathy here. what a character!


26 posted on 04/12/2009 6:17:35 PM PDT by sickoflibs (RNC Party Theme : "We may be socialists, but they are Marxists!")
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To: fella

The courts refuse to give men the right to give up a child (e.g. for adoption). This stacks the deck; a man can always be charged for child support, but can never give a child up.

In contrast, the courts always give a woman the right to give up a child (e.g. for adoption), and rarely (e.g. for rich white women) charge a woman for child support.

Right now this disparity gets almost no press coverage, but it is an injustice to everyone except the child, one presumes. However, keeping by force of the courts such a man in a child’s life may not exactly be peachy for the kid, either.


27 posted on 04/12/2009 6:23:13 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
If you aren't married to the guy, you shouldn't be allowed to collect a penny.

That would be great for the guy - but what about the taxpayer and the child? So if the man doesn't want to support his child who do you think should? Me? Me the taxpayer? Gimme a break.

29 posted on 04/12/2009 8:23:47 PM PDT by GOPJ (Iraq trip: Obama should have bowed to the troops - not to King Abdullah.)
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To: GOPJ
That would be great for the guy - but what about the taxpayer and the child? So if the man doesn't want to support his child who do you think should? Me? Me the taxpayer? Gimme a break.

I said "if you subsidize something, you get more of it."

That would imply that if a woman makes a baby without a husband, she's on her own. No government subsidies either, capische?

I guess you prefer encouraging unwed motherhood.

30 posted on 04/13/2009 6:35:34 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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To: fella

Down goes Frazier.


31 posted on 04/13/2009 12:33:15 PM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Obviously you are quite invested in father's rights issues. I agree that men can get seriously screwed by the family court system. No doubt. However, these children must be supported. I do not think it is unfair in the least to expect a man who fathered a child out of wedlock to help support that child.

How is it fair for the mother of the child to be the sole support for the child when it takes two to tango?
32 posted on 04/13/2009 12:41:39 PM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: fella

He will probably be marching with ACORN on Wednesday.

Higher taxes pay for more bennies for his offshoots.


33 posted on 04/13/2009 12:45:07 PM PDT by dforest
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To: fleagle
I do not think it is unfair in the least to expect a man who fathered a child out of wedlock to help support that child.

That's great, but the unintended consequence is that you are encouraging women to make babies without benefit of marriage.

The best way to make sure a kid is going to grow up in poverty and become a criminal is to stick him/her into a single mother home.

34 posted on 04/13/2009 12:49:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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To: fleagle
"Down goes Frazier."

LOL!

35 posted on 04/13/2009 12:55:00 PM PDT by RabidBartender
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
There are "social programs" that do reward (in a sense) women for having children out of wedlock. Those programs have been disastrous.

But the whole "children from single moms will end up on drugs, involved in crime, in jail...and that's on a good day" rhetoric is all wrong.

Many factors influence how children develop in single-parent families; including the parent's age, education level, and occupation; along with the family's income, and the family's support network of friends and extended family. Disadvantages in these factors that often accompany single parenting appear to cause most of this association rather than single parenting itself.
36 posted on 04/13/2009 1:29:58 PM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: fleagle
But the whole "children from single moms will end up on drugs, involved in crime, in jail...and that's on a good day" rhetoric is all wrong.

**Sigh**

I'm sure that you're "feelings" are more important than facts, but I guess I'm just a masochist.

Experiments in Living: The Fatherless Family

37 posted on 04/13/2009 2:12:36 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
There is information and opinions all over the place to make any case one wishes to.

Obviously you have quite the chip on your shoulder about this issue and an axe, or two, or twenty to grind. You keep on keeping on dude.
38 posted on 04/13/2009 5:07:37 PM PDT by fleagle ( An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last. -Winston Churchill)
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To: fella

The victim of a system that he says saddled him with debt for children he claims aren’t all his and the victim of a poor upbringing that he said caused him to seek affection from older women.


Straight out of the manual....................


39 posted on 04/13/2009 5:13:28 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: fleagle
Obviously you have quite the chip on your shoulder about this issue and an axe, or two, or twenty to grind. You keep on keeping on dude.

Hey, if you honestly believe a check from the government and/or the sperm donor is the answer to all the problems of illegitimacy, then it's between you and your conscience that you believe in encouraging illegitimacy.

You obviously have plenty of issues of your own to deal with without worrying your empty little head about mine.

40 posted on 04/13/2009 6:06:12 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Only after disaster can we be resurrected." -- Tyler Durden)
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