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Ice that burns could be a green fossil fuel (clathrate hydrate)
New Scientist ^ | Mar. 26, 2009 | Michael Marshall

Posted on 03/28/2009 5:44:09 PM PDT by decimon

Natural gas locked up in water crystals could be a source of enormous amounts of energy – and if a new technology delivers what scientists are claiming, then it could even be emissions-free too.

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The US Department of Energy is now working with the oil company ConocoPhillips on a field trial in Alaska (pdf), to test whether the technique can be scaled up.

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(Excerpt) Read more at newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: energy; methanehydrate; naturalgas
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1 posted on 03/28/2009 5:44:09 PM PDT by decimon
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To: thackney

Fire and ice ping.


2 posted on 03/28/2009 5:45:50 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

I try to not go to that liberal science site.


3 posted on 03/28/2009 5:48:11 PM PDT by ConservativeMind (Cancel liberal newspaper, magazine & cable TV subscriptions (Free TV-dtv.gov). Stop funding the MSM.)
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To: decimon
Natural gas locked up in water crystals could be a source of enormous amounts of energy – and if a new technology delivers what scientists are claiming, then it could even be emissions-free too.

CO2-emissions free? I doubt that.

4 posted on 03/28/2009 5:49:15 PM PDT by sionnsar (Iran Azadi | 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | "Also sprach Telethustra" - NonValueAdded)
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To: decimon

Once again, an article that accepts that CO2 is a culpit in imagined climate change. The process of releasing methane is an admirable endeavor but to say it is needed to sequester CO2 is bullshit.


5 posted on 03/28/2009 5:51:41 PM PDT by CARTOUCHE (Pa)
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To: decimon

> Nevertheless, burning it still releases carbon dioxide
> and thus drives climate change.

They are insane.

Can we read just one, JUST ONE, scientific article without this stupid, rabid, mouth-breathing, pie-eyed NONSENSE permeating it?

When the world finally wakes up and realizes how WRONG the Carbon Climate Changers (C3) are, how FALSE their prognostications are, they will have done more damage to Science than any “scientific” hoax ever perpetrated before them.

Even now they must back off from Global Warming and call it Climate Change because THE EARTH IS NOT WARMING UP!!!!!

WE ARE FREEZING UP HERE!!!

COLDEST WINTER IN RECENT MEMORY!!! SECOND ONLY TO LAST YEAR!!!


6 posted on 03/28/2009 5:53:31 PM PDT by Westbrook (Having more children does not divide your love, it multiplies it.)
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To: decimon

Wow we could have flaming drinks!


7 posted on 03/28/2009 5:55:08 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: sionnsar
CO2-emissions free? I doubt that.

From the rest of the article, you doubt correctly. The claim is that the methane is displaced by carbon dioxide in the extraction process.

8 posted on 03/28/2009 5:55:55 PM PDT by decimon
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To: Westbrook

Nonetheless, the thing is being done. Let’s hope they can extract the methane at reasonable cost by any method.


9 posted on 03/28/2009 6:00:33 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

On the show “Ice Road Truckers”, they supplied a rig used in “research” on this. They all thought it was a great success.

Was on either last year or the year before.


10 posted on 03/28/2009 6:07:50 PM PDT by SouthTexas (When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people.....)
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They all thought it was a great success.

I hope they find a way to use methane hydrates, or whatever they're called, by some means. That really could change everything.

11 posted on 03/28/2009 6:20:18 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
In all the world, methane hydrates is the big brass ring.


12 posted on 03/28/2009 6:32:17 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: decimon; thackney
A little more at Hot Air.
13 posted on 03/28/2009 6:41:17 PM PDT by SouthTexas (When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people.....)
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To: SouthTexas

Assessment of Gas Hydrate Resources on the North Slope, Alaska, 2008
http://pubs.usgs.gov/fs/2008/3073/pdf/FS08-3073_508.pdf

The 1995 USGS assessment also estimated that the permafrost-associated gas hydrates on the Alaska North Slope may contain as much as 590 trillion cubic feet (TCF) of in-place gas.

14 posted on 03/28/2009 6:51:12 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: thackney

We still have so much bounty left in this country, but if the leftist have their way, it will stay in the ground.


15 posted on 03/28/2009 7:15:57 PM PDT by SouthTexas (When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people.....)
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To: thackney; decimon
How about this one?
16 posted on 03/28/2009 9:46:50 PM PDT by SouthTexas (When in the Course of human events it becomes necessary for one people.....)
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To: Westbrook
COLDEST WINTER IN RECENT MEMORY!!! SECOND ONLY TO LAST YEAR!!!

See? SEE?!! IT'S GETTING WARMER!
WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!

17 posted on 03/28/2009 9:52:30 PM PDT by uglybiker (AAAAAAH!!! I'm covered in BEES!)
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18 posted on 03/29/2009 5:47:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Clathrates/methane hydrates update topic.


19 posted on 03/29/2009 5:48:01 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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20 posted on 03/29/2009 6:02:59 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/____________________ Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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