Posted on 03/24/2009 6:22:39 AM PDT by 2harddrive
Is the Fed.gov behind the ammo shortage, or NOT? What do you all think?
the problem is that ammo manufacturers were reliant on the military for used casings. The shortage will be worked out but ammo will become more costly.
The socialists figured out that they could not win the battle of banning our guns so they took the next logical step and that was to pinch off the supply of ammunition.
Used casings?
The vast majority of factory ammo is NEW, with all new components.
Military casings are usually sold to clearing house and dealers for private reloading.
Like other commodities, new components are in competition with government demand for powder, primers, brass, copper and lead.
Yes, indirectly, by driving up demand; not by restricting supply.
In that Barry Hussein (Fed Gov) is scaring lots of folk so they are buying ammo in preparation for the unthinkable; yeah.
then what I read was wrong and i was wrongly informed. my apologizes.
I also heard it’s really hard to find teleprompters these days as birak has cornered the market on them.
Only the ammo RE-manufacturers are dependent upon once-fired DOD brass. Remington, Winchester, Federal, etc. might make “military type” (similar FMJ projectile) ammo, but the brass is a commercially-made product.
Only the ammo RE-manufacturers are dependent upon once-fired DOD brass. Remington, Winchester, Federal, etc. might make “military type” (similar FMJ projectile) ammo, but the brass is a commercially-made product.
Yes by driving up demand.Also relatively cheap ammo could come from China, hunting grade soft points .But China is not allowed to import ammo to the US.But they got a pretty good deal supplying the drug cartels of Mexico and Iran.The DOD cut of re loadable brass for a week a few weeks back and one reloading company in Georgia was going to drop 20-30 jobs because of loss of the monthly 15 million spent, re loadable cartridges in .223,308 and 9mm that they use.The order came from the top down but a couple of Democrat senators actually screamed at the DOD that they were costing them reelection and so the order was rescinded.
Milsurp 308 has just about dried up and law enforcement agencies have had to severely cut live fire exercises because of the shortage and cost of 9mm, 40 and 45.
Look to the current regime to ban all imported ammo, thus Winchester, Remington and Hornady will have their “cheap” ammo going for $10 a round or more.
My understanding is that the military has its own source for ammunition (e.g. Lake City) that is separate from civilian manufacturers. Having said that, I’m sure our current Fed government is at least indirectly responsible through stoking fears of confiscatory taxation, confiscation, etc.
I also think (and my range experience confirms it) that a lot of ammunition is being expending via the “SWAT teams” that every Mayberry police force seems to think is ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY.
Distribution problems play another part - Many distributors went out of business over the last few years, and typically those distributors would have fair sized warehouses which would buffer off shocks to prices. But instead, those distributors going out of business artificially reduced the price of ammo. That reduced price expectation made a lot of retailers shy about ordering in the more expensive current production.
Finally, Obama was elected, and people went on a buying spree, while at the same time the remaining distributors went on a slash and burn, cutting off credit to long time retailers and demanding pre-paid or cash on delivery orders.
In part. Eco regs, the ongoing war, and a boatload of hording by worried gun owners.
I don’t think the federal government is actively doing anything to restrict the supply of ammunition - people are simply buying it as fast as it hits the shelves these days. I suspect the ammo importers are going “all in” on their new orders, trying to get as much warehoused as they possibly can. It is likely that the (relatively) inexpensive imported military surplus ammo will be banned in the future. People know this, up and down the supply chain. So, supply has simply outstripped available supply.
I think people are buying it up as fast as it hits the shelves, and output has remained the same.
Rather than warehousing, it would make more sense to put imported ammo on the market as soon as it hits the loading dock, while the current prices are at historic highs.
I am behind the ammo shortage.
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