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Let's talk about the F-104 Starfighter

Posted on 02/15/2009 1:26:24 PM PST by mowowie

The F-104 Starigher and all it's variants. Todays Sunday reading obsession.

I wanna hear from the FR pro's!

From what I have read so far, The plane had spectacular abilities coupled with very un-desired effects.


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To: mowowie
There is an Airshow Demo team, Saw them about 2 years ago in Beaufort USMCAS, SC

Link For Airshow Schedule

41 posted on 02/15/2009 3:46:53 PM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: mowowie

The 1936 Auburn Model 852 Speedster! Discuss!


42 posted on 02/15/2009 3:51:05 PM PST by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: Future Snake Eater

Thank you.

That was Awesome!! LOL


43 posted on 02/15/2009 3:52:14 PM PST by mowowie
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To: JRios1968

Are there any left in flying condition?


44 posted on 02/15/2009 3:54:14 PM PST by mowowie
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To: mowowie
Take a drive up to Palmdale and see one up close:

F-104 STARFIGHTER Aircraft at the Joe Davies Heritage Airpark at Palmdale Plant 42

45 posted on 02/15/2009 3:59:42 PM PST by BenLurkin (Mornie` utulie`. Mornie` alantie`.)
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To: mowowie

Over Arizona 1979

[IMG]http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s231/flotcommand/f104.jpg[/IMG]


46 posted on 02/15/2009 4:09:18 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: mowowie

I don’t think there are any operational combat-ready tails left. The Italians recently retired theirs, and I don’t think the Germans are flying them anymore. The only ones left are probably owned by civs.


47 posted on 02/15/2009 4:11:35 PM PST by JRios1968 (Sarah Palin is what Willis was talkin' about!)
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To: mamelukesabre

The wings had about 3 degree of anhederal iirc


48 posted on 02/15/2009 4:12:37 PM PST by valkyry1
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49 posted on 02/15/2009 4:13:05 PM PST by JRios1968 (Sarah Palin is what Willis was talkin' about!)
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To: mowowie
Ok let's try that again Over Arizona 1979 Photobucket
50 posted on 02/15/2009 4:13:23 PM PST by artichokegrower
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To: hoagy62

I just read up on Bloodhound ssc it looks like it would beat the NA Eagle.


51 posted on 02/15/2009 4:29:11 PM PST by omega4179 (1.20.13 end of an error , a big one.)
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To: SampleMan; mowowie; JRios1968; artichokegrower; All
ere ya go mates a few F-104s for ya

An Italian StarFighter

USAF F-104

Not a lot of wing area on this bird, the area ruled fuselage also shows up fairly well.

A flight of 4 F-104s from the Dutch Air Force IIRC

NASA two-seater Starfighter rolling in to Edwards AFB for a landing.

A Luftwaffe Starfighter undergoing ZEL tests. A cool concept that actually worked but wasn't used.

50th Anniversary Flight of the F-104. Sorry I don't recall whose plane this is:-(

ANd to close out a pic from the Starfighters demo team.

Y'all have a great night

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

52 posted on 02/15/2009 4:32:06 PM PST by alfa6
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To: mowowie

You’re welcome! Everytime I hear/see the F104 mentioned anywhere, I always think of that episode of that awesome series!


53 posted on 02/15/2009 5:18:08 PM PST by Future Snake Eater ("Get out of the boat and walk on the water with us!”--Sen. Joe Biden)
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To: 19th LA Inf

Great story.
I love that stuff.


54 posted on 02/15/2009 5:35:11 PM PST by mowowie
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To: JRios1968
I don’t think there are any operational combat-ready tails left. The Italians recently retired theirs, and I don’t think the Germans are flying them anymore. The only ones left are probably owned by civs.

I was once intercepted by an Italian F-104. I think the Taiwanese were the last to have them in service. They retired their last ones in Aug. 2005.

55 posted on 02/15/2009 5:36:49 PM PST by SampleMan (I'm not drinking the kool aid! Is it 2013 yet?)
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To: omega4179

Uh...yeah. By a country mile.

The NAE is designed (so Mr. Shadle says) to do about 800 MPH. They figured (when the NAE project was first laid on) that this is what it would take to get the LSR and keep it for a while, since nothing else like the NAE was being seriously planned.

Then, Richard Noble strikes again. He was the driving force behind Thrust SSC, the current record holder. He wanted a car that could hit 1000 MPH. And the reason he’s doing it? Not to gain more fame for himself, but to spur the British education system to produce more scientists and engineers for the future of Britain. He’s using this program as a catalyst to get Britain’s youth interested in math, science, and engineering...and totally blowing away the LSR as a side benefit.

(Of course...they’ll have to figure out what to do about the ever-increasing number of Muslims, who’d rather live in the Stone Age...but that’s another thread entirely.)


56 posted on 02/15/2009 5:37:07 PM PST by hoagy62 (Obama: slowly sucking the positive attitude out of the US since 11-4-08)
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To: Gaffer

The Germans actually used them in a ground attack roll.
They became known as “The Widow Maker”....


57 posted on 02/15/2009 5:37:29 PM PST by Kozak (USA 7/4/1776 to 1/20/2009 Requiescat In Pace)
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To: jnsun
Is it true thrust/wght was greater than one?

No. Operational weight was around 25k and the max thrust was ~ 18k w. burner.

58 posted on 02/15/2009 5:39:37 PM PST by SampleMan (I'm not drinking the kool aid! Is it 2013 yet?)
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To: mowowie

Well, from what I hear from people who have actually flown it, it was a great plane if you simply wanted to go from a to b. If, however, you wanted to actually fight other aircraft, it left a lot to be desired. It was ungunned(the original version), it was not very versicle. It was made to be an interceptor, and did not fill the role of a fighter very well!


59 posted on 02/15/2009 5:55:33 PM PST by calex59
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To: artichokegrower

That looks like a “thud” up there with that other aircraft? right or wrong?


60 posted on 02/15/2009 5:59:17 PM PST by calex59
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